I don't like Battle Wizard and here's why

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

The last 2 times I tried to play BW, a WHC joined the lobby (probably different people each time!), played for a few minutes, said something along the lines of "Sienna just go play Solo", then immediately left.

Its so effective everyone around me just quits!

[Maitre Malterre]

Yea pff..... there are people who judge you how you play and therefore devalue you and avoid you.
But they ride up an escalator together with you in the department store without knowing you. So much for a person's assessment, opinion and morality.

Either you ran into an envious WHC who had warned that the oh-so-important green circles were being taken away from him - or you didn't play the way everyone would have liked - and there are a thousand reasons for that.

Don't worry. That's why one of my mottos is 'One is always crazy' - Einer spinnt immer. :)

[Chizakura]

Also, ironic that a whc is calling a bw out considering whc is also considered top tier along with her at the most difficult levels.

[Ardariel]

Yeah, welll.... add twitch mode, there it will be warranted :)

[Red Sabre]

To me, the problem is that she is... boring to play. Before premium clases she was the only character with infinite ranged attacks, but now not even that. Not to mention her careers feel pretty much the same.

[Ardariel]

Originally posted by Red Sabre:

To me, the problem is that she is... boring to play. Before premium clases she was the only character with infinite ranged attacks, but now not even that. Not to mention her careers feel pretty much the same.

He is talking speifically about first career of bright wizard - battle wizard.

And he is talking about the fact, tha tshe is most op career in game atm.

[KhajiitOnSkooma]

I assume the situation the whc were in was having every enemy within melee distance they targeted being blasted and deleted by your range before they could land hit. From start to finish with how strong every range career can be with some aoe/pen loadout on trash especially regular difficulty plus bw constant get out of jail free card every 45 second ult you deny your group any meaningful gameplay the whole map.

It's not exclusive to just bw, I believe the main issue here is you already outgrown the difficulty you were on kinda like the equivalent of killing floor 2 max level demolition that regularly play hell on earth difficulty plays on lower difficulty on suicidal or hard. Proceed to camp at the enemy spawn location killing them while they are still out of bound with a grenade launcher while the group are all at the safer common defensive ground way back of the map trying to level up but they can't because they each only get to kill 45 out of 1000 enemy the whole 35min not trying to cheese their way up.

You wasted someone's 35min denying them from playing the only people who would be okay with that are player that is still farming It's not a sienna bw problem, did you try any of these

-target enemy within your group melee range with your aoe mob kills ONLY when they are visibly losing the fight. It easy to see who chase end screen from this alone.

-add twitch and deed to your current difficulty or go up a difficulty/weave/modded.

-drop the trash aoe mob kill loadout and go for stagger/elite kill/ single target instead. Solve horde density as a group maybe.

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

Originally posted by KhajiitOnSkooma:

I assume the situation the whc were in was having every enemy within melee distance they targeted being blasted and deleted by your range before they could land hit. From start to finish with how strong every range career can be with some aoe/pen loadout on trash especially regular difficulty plus bw constant get out of jail free card every 45 second ult you deny your group any meaningful gameplay the whole map.

It's not exclusive to just bw, I believe the main issue here is you already outgrown the difficulty you were on kinda like the equivalent of killing floor 2 max level demolition that regularly play hell on earth difficulty plays on lower difficulty on suicidal or hard. Proceed to camp at the enemy spawn location killing them while they are still out of bound with a grenade launcher while the group are all at the safer common defensive ground way back of the map trying to level up but they can't because they each only get to kill 45 out of 1000 enemy the whole 35min not trying to cheese their way up.

You wasted someone's 35min denying them from playing the only people who would be okay with that are player that is still farming It's not a sienna bw problem, did you try any of these

-target enemy within your group melee range with your aoe mob kills ONLY when they are visibly losing the fight. It easy to see who chase end screen from this alone.

-add twitch and deed to your current difficulty or go up a difficulty/weave/modded.

-drop the trash aoe mob kill loadout and go for stagger/elite kill/ single target instead. Solve horde density as a group maybe.

It was a story post intended to be funny, not looking for a real solution. I know if I wanted to stop people like that from getting angry, there are various solutions.. obviously.

[KhajiitOnSkooma]

I see :(

[Ittrix]

I mean on one hand 'haha salty WHC', but on the other, if someone's good enough (either because top tier, lower difficulty, or just being really good at the game... pretty boring to be a fourth wheel.
it's not fun to get carried. I'm guilty of leaving games where I eventually say to myself "... why am I here?".

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

Originally posted by Ittrix:

I mean on one hand 'haha salty WHC', but on the other, if someone's good enough (either because top tier, lower difficulty, or just being really good at the game... pretty boring to be a fourth wheel.
it's not fun to get carried. I'm guilty of leaving games where I eventually say to myself "... why am I here?".

Indeed, but it's kinda weird ain't it? Last game I was in Cataclysm with a friend who was just learning it, plus BW is probably my least played career!

[Ittrix]

Sienna is a nasty ball of power, what can I say.
Her firewalk is bugged atm (when hasn't it been, really), but IMO pyro is even nastier.

[J.P.]

Originally posted by Ittrix:

Sienna is a nasty ball of power, what can I say.
Her firewalk is bugged atm (when hasn't it been, really), but IMO pyro is even nastier.

I thought they fixed that awhile back, before the Trail of Treachery 2?

[J.P.]

wgaf what anyone else thinks in a game

host your own lobby

[BlackCockDown]

Originally posted by Red Sabre:

To me, the problem is that she is... boring to play. Before premium clases she was the only character with infinite ranged attacks, but now not even that. Not to mention her careers feel pretty much the same.

The differences across classes are subtle, you can eradicate stormvermin patrols as both battle wizard and unchained but you'll probably do it by cooking them from afar as the former and doing high velocity flail violence on the latter.

I don't think the infinite ammo builds for other classes take away her uniqueness though, her DoT or AoE abilities are unique to her character.

Originally posted by KhajiitOnSkooma:

You wasted someone's 35min denying them from playing the only people who would be okay with that are player that is still farming It's not a sienna bw problem, did you try any of these

For me the biggest culprits of this are javelin elves who would stop at nothing to deny you any elite kills, be they skewering the enemies you are charging or skewering YOU just to get the enemy. Being only relegated to killing trash mobs on legend is hardly how I want to spend my time.

[Meowella]

Originally posted by BlackCockDown:

Originally posted by Red Sabre:

To me, the problem is that she is... boring to play. Before premium clases she was the only character with infinite ranged attacks, but now not even that. Not to mention her careers feel pretty much the same.

The differences across classes are subtle, you can eradicate stormvermin patrols as both battle wizard and unchained but you'll probably do it by cooking them from afar as the former and doing high velocity flail violence on the latter.

I don't think the infinite ammo builds for other classes take away her uniqueness though, her DoT or AoE abilities are unique to her character.

Originally posted by KhajiitOnSkooma:

You wasted someone's 35min denying them from playing the only people who would be okay with that are player that is still farming It's not a sienna bw problem, did you try any of these

For me the biggest culprits of this are javelin elves who would stop at nothing to deny you any elite kills, be they skewering the enemies you are charging or skewering YOU just to get the enemy. Being only relegated to killing trash mobs on legend is hardly how I want to spend my time.

Oi!

Don't you be stealing my Shade CW kills, I need the thp!