Bad players in legend/cata

[Rhino]

i've noticed a trend these last months. Many bad or VERY bad players go legend or cata and force us to carry or lose with them.
It makes no sense to not train in lower difficulties first.

[Captain Pronin™]

I agree, there is a problem with these players.
There is a solution to this problem, adding to the "black list of steam", through the tabs view - players.
A certain player who does not suit you in the manner of passing will not have access to your lobby in the game (- leaves the game) - synchronization of steam servers with servers of Vermintide 2.
It helps a lot when you come across too "salty players" so that they do not interfere with verbal diarrhea and inadequate actions (interfering during the passage) in the future.

[Bait]

Part of the charm

[veracsthane]

Originally posted by Rhino:

i've noticed a trend these last months. Many bad or VERY bad players go legend or cata and force us to carry or lose with them.
It makes no sense to not train in lower difficulties first.

i think most of them are new thanks to the sale and all i have to say is if you have even one sub 35 behave and follow because it starts to piss us off especially if you start playing victim like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥. i can assue you you will be learning even after getting everything to level 35

[radz741]

I've been playing really bad for awhile now cause the games been buggy as hell for me.

About half the games I'm getting no audio cues so I'm constantly getting hit from behind, getting hit and downed through full stamina blocks and if I handgun from the hip missing like 100% of the time when games bugging even if I'm so close the guns in the middle of their torso.

So maybe it's not always the players are crap when the games so random how it runs.

[Horrid]

Had a game like this yesterday.

I joined and there is a 300+ ping player and another 150ish. The game joined me in a weird spot on a ledge, so I couldn't back up as I guess I was already past the invisible wall?

No worry, I was engi so I start shooting, only to be guttered instantly, went from 100 health to down, with a player right next to me the entire time.

I get picked up and someone sets off a patrol right as a khorne horde starts coming, I blasted everything I could and ran outta minigun, swapped over to troll hammer and volleyed a few shots into horde / pat.

2 people go down, me and one other fighting in a corner, but its pretty hopeless. No reload on troll hammer and my mini guns out, as I die I get the "you have been removed from the game" message.

Fun stuff, 3 more for the block list.

[Rhino]

Originally posted by radz74:

I've been playing really bad for awhile now cause the games been buggy as hell for me.

About half the games I'm getting no audio cues so I'm constantly getting hit from behind, getting hit and downed through full stamina blocks and if I handgun from the hip missing like 100% of the time when games bugging even if I'm so close the guns in the middle of their torso.

So maybe it's not always the players are crap when the games so random how it runs.

At this point, you go to legend to waste everyone's time on purpose. Fix your game and go to multiplayer later.

[Rhino]

Originally posted by Horrid:

Had a game like this yesterday.

I joined and there is a 300+ ping player and another 150ish. The game joined me in a weird spot on a ledge, so I couldn't back up as I guess I was already past the invisible wall?

No worry, I was engi so I start shooting, only to be guttered instantly, went from 100 health to down, with a player right next to me the entire time.

I get picked up and someone sets off a patrol right as a khorne horde starts coming, I blasted everything I could and ran outta minigun, swapped over to troll hammer and volleyed a few shots into horde / pat.

2 people go down, me and one other fighting in a corner, but its pretty hopeless. No reload on troll hammer and my mini guns out, as I die I get the "you have been removed from the game" message.

Fun stuff, 3 more for the block list.

I have a problem with the block list idea, tho. Doesn't seem like an ideal choice.

[Ara]

Originally posted by Rhino:

i've noticed a trend these last months. Many bad or VERY bad players go legend or cata and force us to carry or lose with them.
It makes no sense to not train in lower difficulties first.

It's not only in Legend or Cata, it already starts in Veteran. I'm a new player myself, just about to get the first lvl 35, but even to me, many play way worse, and were in the map for the first time, directly in Veteran.
It became so bad, I surely failed ~50% of the missions, that I switched to Champion earlier then I intended to, and it's going way better there.

[Innocent]

Originally posted by Ara:

It's not only in Legend or Cata, it already starts in Veteran. I'm a new player myself, just about to get the first lvl 35, but even to me, many play way worse, and were in the map for the first time, directly in Veteran.
It became so bad, I surely failed ~50% of the missions, that I switched to Champion earlier then I intended to, and it's going way better there.

Vet is the level just before Recruit, which is really just tutorial mode. Realistically, most beginners should end up in vet pretty quickly. I too found Champ a lot more enjoyable, if only because of the increased teamplay and coms. I play Legend only these days, haven't seen anything horrid tbh. Some games go well some dont, that's just how the cookie crumbles.

[Rhino]

Originally posted by Ara:

Originally posted by Rhino:

i've noticed a trend these last months. Many bad or VERY bad players go legend or cata and force us to carry or lose with them.
It makes no sense to not train in lower difficulties first.

It's not only in Legend or Cata, it already starts in Veteran. I'm a new player myself, just about to get the first lvl 35, but even to me, many play way worse, and were in the map for the first time, directly in Veteran.
It became so bad, I surely failed ~50% of the missions, that I switched to Champion earlier then I intended to, and it's going way better there.

It's the bane of video games, these days. Due to gaming becoming mainstream, we recieve lots of common idiots who couldn't care less about the game or the other players and don't try at all. It takes time to find good willin players.

[Rhino]

Originally posted by Slaanesh Cultist:

It's impossible to train for a higher difficulty by playing a lower one. The only way to get better is to try and fail the higher difficulties.

Absolutely wrong. Play the lower difficulty, find decent players, try next difficulty together.

Also try to warn about it so we can adapt.

[Ardariel]

Huh.

It have no sense to train at lower difficulties, since you got accustomed to lower difficulties, get habits from lower difficulties, etc.

I saw morre long-time "pro" legend and champ players suck as hell on cata, than newcomers rushing to it. And there is reason for it.

Newcomers in most cases are not delusional about their strenght. They play super cautiosly and work for a tem. Lege players, on other hand... they try to play like they do on lege and inevitably fail.

I got your frustration, OP, but honestly, if you are not ready for QP - just play private. If you go in QP - be ready to interact with such peaple. If they are receptive - build up on it. If they are not - kick/block them. If you just ignore them - you make things worse for everybody.

And elitism is rarely an answer.

[VanDerSol]

It is part of the veterans responsibility (Thousand hours or more) to show off to new players. Bad players put into a good player incubator will in turn become good players. Bad players put with other bad players will be bad players that slowly turn to okay players.

If you're mindset is to block a player because you think they are bad, but in reality they are in the process of evolving their play style and awareness. Then you are the bad player who is actually trying to ride the coat tails of good players to win.

Inspire and dazzle new blood with your skill. Show them whats possible. Until then, get good.

[DaTank]

If I get bad players I just try to play better, and if we lose I get over it and move to the next game. If this continues to happen I play a different game if it gets frustrating

[Ardariel]

Originally posted by DaTank:

If I get bad players I just try to play better, and if we lose I get over it and move to the next game. If this continues to happen I play a different game if it gets frustrating

true that.

And that is why what OPdemonstrated is actually "bad player mentality".
If you are actually good - you can carry the game. Or you can coordinate people to get through it.
And if you cant - then youre either bad r normal player. In this case you should try to cooperate with your teammates to win.
But once you start blaming others for "making you carry them"... well, if you actually capable of carrying them - you dont care. So since youdo... it is not easy for you. And that means you just looking for excuse for your poor performance.

Not to mention,that those who grow always looking for their own faults first. And since this game is solo-able (w/o bots), you always have room to grow. And if you looking for mistakes of others... that does not paint good picture. Bad players are those, who dont grow and learn, and blaming externalities is what all bad players do.

Anyway, being frustrated by poorly=performing teammate is understandable, human. But it is also bad, and you better recognize it, OP, and start being better both as human and as player.