Most efficient method to grind emperor vaults?

[V-Man]

I've finished Helmgart on cataclysm and just want to optimize character, quick play with randoms on legend yields... Mixed result and I'm looking for the fastest method to get reds.
All the recommended strategies I've found are obsolete, any suggestions?

[Yuuki]

Host yourself with bots and run Legend in private matches.
Or else, just play normally and you get them all.

Originally posted by Yuuki:

The breakpoint that I have seen from most people to get a red weapon is playing for 50hours.
If you play for 200 hours, you probably have full one red gears set included accessories.
If you play for 500 hours, you get all red weapons, ton of red accessories for one character.
If you play for 1000 hours, you get all weapons, ton of red accessories for ALL characters.
Play Legend QP full books, full dices if you want guaranteed Emperor Vault. If you know what to do (and not a drug dealer), a run with full books only take roughly 15mn.

If I do simple math, one hour will give you 4 Emp vaults, play for 10h and you get 40 vaults+some rec chests. If you play for a weeks every day in this quarantine, it would give you 280 vaults+ton of rec chests. They must have at least one red accessory inside those.
And a frame

[Triggerhappy]

That doesn't take into account a 90% disconnect from host rate and a decent pickup group loss rate too.

[Harmodioum]

Get a strong team of players. Play on legend and do the deed quickplay glitch* with a deed that rewards the vault you are interested in on completion. Gather all the books in the match and if you win, you will get double reward -- one from the deed and the other from the match.

*To do the deed quickplay glitch, go to the map in the keep. Select the deed, then immediately press E on the map to go into the menu and stay there. Have everyone vote yes to the deed. Once it is accepted, navigate to quickplay in the menu you kept open to select quickplay. Have everyone accept then enter the bridge of shadows.

[V-Man]

Originally posted by Triggerhappy:

That doesn't take into account a 90% disconnect from host rate and a decent pickup group loss rate too.

This guy gets it.

Originally posted by Harmodioum:

Get a strong team of players. Play on legend and do the deed quickplay glitch* with a deed that rewards the vault you are interested in on completion. Gather all the books in the match and if you win, you will get double reward -- one from the deed and the other from the match.

*To do the deed quickplay glitch, go to the map in the keep. Select the deed, then immediately press E on the map to go into the menu and stay there. Have everyone vote yes to the deed. Once it is accepted, navigate to quickplay in the menu you kept open to select quickplay. Have everyone accept then enter the bridge of shadows.

Appreciated.

Originally posted by Yuuki:

Host yourself with bots and run Legend in private matches.
Or else, just play normally and you get them all.

Originally posted by Yuuki:

The breakpoint that I have seen from most people to get a red weapon is playing for 50hours.
If you play for 200 hours, you probably have full one red gears set included accessories.
If you play for 500 hours, you get all red weapons, ton of red accessories for one character.
If you play for 1000 hours, you get all weapons, ton of red accessories for ALL characters.
Play Legend QP full books, full dices if you want guaranteed Emperor Vault. If you know what to do (and not a drug dealer), a run with full books only take roughly 15mn.

If I do simple math, one hour will give you 4 Emp vaults, play for 10h and you get 40 vaults+some rec chests. If you play for a weeks every day in this quarantine, it would give you 280 vaults+ton of rec chests. They must have at least one red accessory inside those.
And a frame

You need quick play or incredibly generous RNG gift to get EMP vault in private, though.
That's also ignoring the fact that I'm still working during the quarantine. I do not have this time.

[Yuuki]

Originally posted by V-Man:

You need quick play or incredibly generous RNG gift to get EMP vault in private, though.
That's also ignoring the fact that I'm still working during the quarantine. I do not have this time.

I mean you can play less, it doesn’t matter.
But you can try Twitch run, they spawn more Monster with guaranteed loot dices. And you can do it with bots and full books too, just more stress.
Otherwise, if you want relax, fast run with guaranteed Emp vaults, then you gotta accept the fact that there is no efficient ways except playing a lot more.

[Dionysus 🐭]

Originally posted by V-Man:

I've finished Helmgart on cataclysm and just want to optimize character, quick play with randoms on legend yields... Mixed result and I'm looking for the fastest method to get reds.
All the recommended strategies I've found are obsolete, any suggestions?

Full book legend runs.

[Deja Vu]

Depends on if you are good enough to carry a Legend pug. If you can carry, just QP all day, the ones where you join half way through or near the end will increase your loot/time, hopefully more then you fail because pugging.

If you're not that good, you'll need a premade group or be very good at solo w/ bot runs.

eta: Vaults don't have to be emperors to drop reds, it's just a higher chance. Any vault at all > failing mission, so skip those books on the harder missions if needed.

[Warhämmer |D.w.D|]

into the nest (lot of dice), private game, equip pw vs skaven, pick ws or shade,
bots: merc, wh for attack speed+damage buff, vr for ammo ( if you play shade ) ,or potion/bombs
( if you play ws ) ez going in max. 15-20 min and guaranteed emp. vault

[V-Man]

Originally posted by ⛧Abradolf Lincler⛧:

vr for ammo ( if you play shade ) ,or potion/bombs
( if you play ws ) ez going in max. 15min and guaranteed emp. vault :vt2:

Care to elaborate on the acronyms?
Testing this in a bit, if you're correct this may be the best answer I've seen for time so far.

[Warhämmer |D.w.D|]

Originally posted by V-Man:

Originally posted by ⛧Abradolf Lincler⛧:

vr for ammo ( if you play shade ) ,or potion/bombs
( if you play ws ) ez going in max. 15min and guaranteed emp. vault

Care to elaborate on the acronyms?
Testing this in a bit, if you're correct this may be the best answer I've seen for time so far.

of course

merc - kruber mercenary
wh - salty with hunter
vr - bardin veteran ranger
ws - kerillian waystalker

all you need to know is how the bots acting and use the bot improvement mod ;)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1395655171&searchtext=bot

bad english sry ^^

[V-Man]

Originally posted by ⛧Abradolf Lincler⛧:

Originally posted by V-Man:

Care to elaborate on the acronyms?
Testing this in a bit, if you're correct this may be the best answer I've seen for time so far.

of course

merc - kruber mercenary
wh - salty with hunter
vr - bardin veteran ranger
ws - kerillian waystalker

all you need to know is how the bots acting and use the bot improvement mod ;)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1395655171&searchtext=bot

bad english sry ^^

Tested twice. This is entirely dependent on Ranald's gift.

[Yuuki]

ofc, you lost QP point if you make a custom map run, hence ranald middle finger.
There is no fast way to farm anything in this game, except playing it a lot more.

[Combine00]

im not sure how good you are, if youre ok then you could probably grind emp vault deeds. theyre usually tough, but after a while youll get used to them and either be a better player or quit. the most intensive deed being vanguard and harder better faster stronger, which means ambients are replaced with elites and elites are 2x as strong and have 2x as much hp. But if youre decently good, you could do 5 - 10 second hyper twitch. Run shade for ez boss clears, and farm 16-18 die in a game. i used to run and shade and pub it out at 7 seconds, but a decent enough group wont need a shade. And as a final point, i do believe halescourge is the shortest lord map, think i do it in around 10 minutes with good pace and full books

[Ghoul Hunter]

Nobody mentions Skittergate? There are 5-9 loot dice on that map.

[Warhämmer |D.w.D|]

Originally posted by V-Man:

Originally posted by ⛧Abradolf Lincler⛧:

of course

merc - kruber mercenary
wh - salty with hunter
vr - bardin veteran ranger
ws - kerillian waystalker

all you need to know is how the bots acting and use the bot improvement mod ;)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1395655171&searchtext=bot

bad english sry ^^

Tested twice. This is entirely dependent on Ranald's gift.

did you full book run? if only one monster spawn then you need luck with ranadls middlefinger but most of the time you get two monsters
whatever, its the easiest map with bots and the chance to get a emp vault is verry high,
even if you get a gen vault, it takes less than 20min for the run
compare to deeds with emp vaul rewards or skittergate with 6-10 loot dice, it takes double the time and the chance to fail with bots (specialy in the final boss fight on skittergate) are 50/50 ^^

best way is still a premade group and play twitch mode or farm deeds