Gork's (or mork's?) blessing is downright detrimental

[Wywern]

Can something be done about this chaos wastes talent? I tried it today for the first time after avoiding it for a long time, and it's an exotic rarity talent that is a straight up run-killer if you get it by picking it not knowing how bad it is or from a random talent.

Let's look at the push: you block, and then you push to move enemies away from you and stagger them. Now let's look at gork's (or mork's?) blessing: now, when you push, you dash past the enemies you shoved, moving you into the middle of the enemies you would normally move away from you, and unlike some charges in the game, you do absolutely nothing to enemies in between or at the point you end up, leaving you surrounded by unstunned enemies ready to maul you to death at their leisure. This essentially removes your ability to push enemies and replaces it with the ability to dash into the middle of hordes, off cliffs, and just in general to almost instant death. Some classes have poor cleave options, and rely heavily on their push to deal with hordes and large groups of enemies, making this talent particularly detrimental.

I would suggest it get a rework to change the activation mechanism of the charge to not remove you ability to push, or causing the charge to push enemies away like the foot knight's charge. Currently the talent is so detrimental that I'd prefer it be removed over staying in in it's current state.

[Ardariel]

You are right somewhat, but on other hand it offer mobility to careersthat usually dont have one. Which is need. And dangerous. But one should not use random boon if he is not ready to get ♥♥♥♥ combo, imo.

[Hampton Wick]

Used it one time. What a dreadful talent

Rushing off ledges, cliffs morphing into a group of trash to be kicked in the meat and 2 veg.

nice trolling FS.

Certainly a talent to avoid.

[SamEstine]

+1

Agreed. I got it from a random boon altar once at a late cata run and I absolutely stopped pushing enemies due to this, almost costing me the run at once point. It's absolutely a curse, I see no way of this being beneficial, it's a one way ticket to getting yourself killed or thrown off ledges.

It 100% needs to be reworked into something more reliable, as the only thing it's reliable at doing right now is getting you killed for fighting back.

[Felix Milz]

This talent is really total nonsense.

On one of my last runs a Kruber Grail Knight got that (from random boon) and from that moment he really was struck hard, while before he was a very good/ useful player.

Falling off cliffs, charged into a horde etc. or even a group of monks.


I don´t see any use for this talent. 99.9% of the cases you would avoid this talent.

[SamEstine]

Originally posted by Ardariel:

You are right somewhat, but on other hand it offer mobility to careersthat usually dont have one. Which is need. And dangerous. But one should not use random boon if he is not ready to get ♥♥♥♥ combo, imo.

If you're using a career that needs mobility and got this talent, the only thing you'll be rushing to faster is your grave.

This requires you to push enemies to work, the mobility you describe that those careers need are movement speed buffs that work outside of combat as well. Pushing yourself off the map is not a form of mobility.

[Ghuldarkar]

It's pretty good if your playstyle avoids melee a lot and can deal with enemies without needing a push attack. It has literally saved runs for me but it has also killed me by getting stuck inbetween instaturning enemies (no stamina, thus no more moving). If the enemies would not do that instant targeting turn around mid-attack it would be also much more useful but it's like a bad handmaiden player that dashes into a horde.

[Ardariel]

Originally posted by Sam:

Originally posted by Ardariel:

You are right somewhat, but on other hand it offer mobility to careersthat usually dont have one. Which is need. And dangerous. But one should not use random boon if he is not ready to get ♥♥♥♥ combo, imo.

If you're using a career that needs mobility and got this talent, the only thing you'll be rushing to faster is your grave.

This requires you to push enemies to work, the mobility you describe that those careers need are movement speed buffs that work outside of combat as well. Pushing yourself off the map is not a form of mobility.

I totally agree that it is dangerous. ANd i highly advise people to avoid using it on weapons, that require push in their strike sequence.

But, unlike you, i had fun with this talent. It is dangerous. And fun. Maybe it was bad idea to apply to push. Maybe it woudl be better to apply it to special attack, for example.

[Felix Milz]

That would be much better - but the few weapons that actually have a special attack would then also suffer from it.
At least it´s not so many.

[SamEstine]

Originally posted by Ardariel:

Originally posted by Sam:

If you're using a career that needs mobility and got this talent, the only thing you'll be rushing to faster is your grave.

This requires you to push enemies to work, the mobility you describe that those careers need are movement speed buffs that work outside of combat as well. Pushing yourself off the map is not a form of mobility.

I totally agree that it is dangerous. ANd i highly advise people to avoid using it on weapons, that require push in their strike sequence.

But, unlike you, i had fun with this talent. It is dangerous. And fun. Maybe it was bad idea to apply to push. Maybe it woudl be better to apply it to special attack, for example.

Oh yeah, it was fun for the first 30 seconds, I experienced that "Oh wow, this seems cool, I can Omae wa Mou shinderu those fool", before we had to fight our way through a beastmen horde so dense, with ledges everywhere, that teleporting through it would be instant death.

Not being able to stagger is not fun.

[DeMasked]

I had a great time with this boon while playing Kruber Spear / Shield Huntsman.

With other boons I was finally able to achieve steamtank status as I just constantly kept enemies staggered while the rest of my team cleaned house. Was rather hilarious.

[SamEstine]

Originally posted by Felix Milz:

That would be much better - but the few weapons that actually have a special attack would then also suffer from it.
At least it´s not so many.

Probably a button that has nothing to do with currently-bound buttons that play a role in combat.

It's just a weird boon overall, perhaps a few people found a good purpose for it, but that is super niche seeing how the chaos wastes are riddled with ledges.

[Zeek]

Whenever I see that boon as an option to pick it's a no-brainer to skip it. Even the description sounds dangerous to use in all circumstances.

[Yuuki]

I want to know what was the devs thinking to create this blessing. It’s like a new maneuver ability that’s very hard to control. Like what can you do with it in numerous situations?

[Moffin Bovin]

what if you could just press the dodge button with W to dodge forward at the cost of stamina?

edit: nevermind. I forgot that there was a button that is both dodge and jump and you can't just have it triggered by 'dodge only' if a significant portion of the player base don't even use that keybind.

the boon is terrible as it is atm. In future, when considering purchasing any game made by fatshark, just think of this boon and that the developers that added it thought that it was something that belonged in a video game.

[Cylixx]

The the true crime of this talent is that it doesn't synergize with 30% damage reduction when standing still.