Warhammer: Vermintide 2

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Licher.Rus May 6, 2021 @ 8:06pm
Famished Flames (BW) - 300%?
I has a feeling that "Famished Flames" (Battle Wizard lvl 10 passive) should give 300% boost to burning, rather than current 150%. Or even more!
Just a reminder, that it decreases all other (non-burn) damage by 30%!

Let's say Flame Sword's Heavy with this trait: 12.5 DOT tick damage (just 5 without)
2 ticks
Stackable (it's hard to get too much stacks tho, 2-3 is max)
AOE, but in melee range
Pretty long and easy interruptable charge
30% reduced other types of damage

This is option for Legend max.
Cata monsters will laugh on this, maybe slave rats more or less will be scaried, but goats wouldn't even notice this.

From other hand - Moon bow of Kerillian:
10 DOT tick damage (same burning type, btw)
12 (yes, twelve) ticks from direct hit of heavy attack or 6 with light or from AOE
(Ability to double!!! this with Waystalker's "Blood Shot" passive)
Stackable
Twice as faster ticks, compared to Flame Sword.
AOE DOT on heavy attack
Any range
No need ammo
Stagger effect
No need to reduce your other damage
Pretty high variety of really good melee weapons and overall utility each elf has.

Who is fire specialist here, at the end?

Not even talking, that current CW has nothing for DOT builds - whole CW is focused on direct damage and crits.
Last edited by Licher.Rus; May 6, 2021 @ 8:13pm
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Yuuki May 6, 2021 @ 8:16pm 
Flame sword is a melee weapon. Moonbow is a range weapon. Kerillian cannot breath fire like Sienna. I mean if you want to improve something, you have to consider other things as well.

So after reading this, you want lv10 talent to be stronger otherwise Kerillian’s Moonbow must be weaker because one is a talent, one is a weapon? I don’t quite follow you there.
Licher.Rus May 6, 2021 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by Yuuki:
Flame sword is a melee weapon. Moonbow is a range weapon. Kerillian cannot breath fire like Sienna. I mean if you want to improve something, you have to consider other things as well.

So after reading this, you want lv10 talent to be stronger otherwise Kerillian’s Moonbow must be weaker because one is a talent, one is a weapon? I don’t quite follow you there.
Do you even understand what you are talking?
Sienna (surpise!) cannot breath fire too.

This talent, that makes BW to be a DOTter and leaves her without anything else! Can you read, actually? It reduces all other damage by 30%!

While KErillian opt out NOTHING, more than that - this is really good weapon, that every elf (if he is sane) should use. I'll avoid to say "OP", but ykr?
Yuuki May 6, 2021 @ 8:21pm 
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Originally posted by SilverWF:
Originally posted by Yuuki:
Flame sword is a melee weapon. Moonbow is a range weapon. Kerillian cannot breath fire like Sienna. I mean if you want to improve something, you have to consider other things as well.

So after reading this, you want lv10 talent to be stronger otherwise Kerillian’s Moonbow must be weaker because one is a talent, one is a weapon? I don’t quite follow you there.
Do you even understand what you are talking?
Sienna (surpise!) cannot breath fire too.

This talent, that makes BW to be a DOTter and leaves her without anything else! Can you read, actually? It reduces all other damage by 30%!

While KErillian opt out NOTHING, more than that - this is really good weapon, that every elf (if he is sane) should use. I'll avoid to say "OP", but ykr?
It’s a lv10 talent. .Your comparison is quite irrelevant. Can you read?
Licher.Rus May 6, 2021 @ 8:23pm 
Originally posted by Yuuki:
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Originally posted by SilverWF:
Do you even understand what you are talking?
Sienna (surpise!) cannot breath fire too.

This talent, that makes BW to be a DOTter and leaves her without anything else! Can you read, actually? It reduces all other damage by 30%!

While KErillian opt out NOTHING, more than that - this is really good weapon, that every elf (if he is sane) should use. I'll avoid to say "OP", but ykr?
It’s a lv10 talent. .Your comparison is quite irrelevant. Can you read?
I can read.
But what I can't - is finding your argumentation.
Is there any?
If no - move along.
Yuuki May 6, 2021 @ 8:28pm 
Originally posted by SilverWF:
Originally posted by Yuuki:
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It’s a lv10 talent. .Your comparison is quite irrelevant. Can you read?
I can read.
But what I can't - is finding your argumentation.
Is there any?
If no - move along.
I said if you want to improve smt, you must consider other things. You want a talent lv10 be stronger like a lv30 talent. But then you compare a talent to a weapon, so I guess you want Moonbow to be weaker because Sienna talent is weak?

Okay, stop smoking before posting pls.
Moffin Bovin May 6, 2021 @ 8:29pm 
you should compare the moonfire bows boss dps to the beamstaff's and then get back to us.
Licher.Rus May 6, 2021 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Yuuki:
Originally posted by SilverWF:
I can read.
But what I can't - is finding your argumentation.
Is there any?
If no - move along.
I said if you want to improve smt, you must consider other things. You want a talent lv10 be stronger like a lv30 talent. But then you compare a talent to a weapon, so I guess you want Moonbow to be weaker because Sienna talent is weak?

Okay, stop smoking before posting pls.
No, it's you should stop smoking - before posting, after and in general.

Lvl 30 talent? Where? Is there any similar talent? WTF you even talking about?

I'm not comparing talent and weapon
I'm comparing two CLASSES!

One has nothing but DOT damage, which is irrelevant for end-game.
Other has everything, including DOT, which is even stronger, than 1st one has.

Is it clear for you now?

You just look like that exact iconic elf-teammate, who constantly rush forward, ignoring his team in all possible ways, champion on friendly fire, who just got his p2w toy, now sleep with it and afraid more than death, that this toy will be nerfed.
LOL
Yuuki May 6, 2021 @ 8:38pm 
Originally posted by SilverWF:
One has nothing but DOT damage, which is irrelevant for end-game.
This is a talent

Originally posted by SilverWF:
Other has everything, including DOT, which is even stronger, than 1st one has.
And this is a weapon. .

And there is no need to hurl insults and sarcasm against people like that. You deserve a report.
Last edited by Yuuki; May 6, 2021 @ 8:38pm
VernonKun May 6, 2021 @ 8:39pm 
Shouldn't you compare ranged weapons with ranged weapons?
Licher.Rus May 6, 2021 @ 8:39pm 
Originally posted by Moffin Bovin:
you should compare the moonfire bows boss dps to the beamstaff's and then get back to us.
It's comparible to Moonbow.
BUT.
Are you ready to have a burden in the team, who will be able to deal just more damage to bosses, and not able to do anything else? And for that he should stay and channel for ages, while you will protect him from basically everything.

While other just make 5 fast heavy shots and then free to do anything else - deal with horde i.e. And also able to carry himself to the boss fight, not rely on the team.

I tested both, so consider me already returned back, lol.
Kao May 6, 2021 @ 8:40pm 
you don't need non-dot dmg with BW :D
Licher.Rus May 6, 2021 @ 8:44pm 
Originally posted by Yuuki:
Originally posted by SilverWF:
One has nothing but DOT damage, which is irrelevant for end-game.
This is a talent

Originally posted by SilverWF:
Other has everything, including DOT, which is even stronger, than 1st one has.
And this is a weapon. .

And there is no need to hurl insults and sarcasm against people like that. You deserve a report.
Seems some obvious things are hard for you?
May I ask - why?

Talent and weapon are not traveling on maps alone - CLASSES use them.
Licher.Rus May 6, 2021 @ 8:47pm 
Originally posted by Kaozium:
you don't need non-dot dmg with BW :D
Right, if your DOTs are strong enough.

And this thread is about this: DOTs damage are not enough, lol.
Yuuki May 6, 2021 @ 8:49pm 
Originally posted by SilverWF:
Originally posted by Yuuki:
This is a talent


And this is a weapon. .

And there is no need to hurl insults and sarcasm against people like that. You deserve a report.
Seems some obvious things are hard for you?
May I ask - why?

Talent and weapon are not traveling on maps alone - CLASSES use them.
So you compare Sienna and Kerillian? Ok fine, then by your definition. Sienna should have a stealth ability and Kerillian should be able to breath fire?

Just to balance things, you know.
Rack May 6, 2021 @ 8:50pm 
Waystalker with Swift bow is still stronger at least in chaos Wastes
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