Warhammer: Vermintide 2

Warhammer: Vermintide 2

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765 Jun 6, 2021 @ 1:09am
Elf Too Stronk
Ok bought SotT yesterday.
I like the design, she's like a Wood Elf who can go either down a slayer-ish path or a druid path. I guess that's the closest we will ever get to a Wardancer.

But I am sure I am not the first who thinks her numbers are overtuned.
Personally I don't enjoy myself when a character is too easy and too strong compared to the others, so I hope you will tone her down a notch ASAP, FS.
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Originally posted by Runeguard of Avelorn:
But I am sure I am not the first who thinks her numbers are overtuned.
Gee what makes you think that aside from the front page being filled with threads saying the exact same thing?
Originally posted by Surkov E. Jaeger:
Character is good, maybe drop the duration of inheritance a bit if anything. FS did a pretty good job.
Fatshark did in reality a crappy ass work.
Inheritance is not the only thing about SoT that is overtune.
They need to rework alot of talents and such for it to be balance
·ºSH13LDº· Jun 6, 2021 @ 2:02am 
shes so op I hardly want to play anymore because of it actually
Pumis Jun 6, 2021 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by Surkov E. Jaeger:
Character is good, maybe drop the duration of inheritance a bit if anything. FS did a pretty good job.
Or just increase it's cooldown a lot more
i swear people just dont like kerillian at all lol, from the memes to now wanting her nerfed
haertsch Jun 6, 2021 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Rider of Retarded Lion Prince:
Originally posted by Surkov E. Jaeger:
Character is good, maybe drop the duration of inheritance a bit if anything. FS did a pretty good job.
Fatshark did in reality a crappy ass work.
Inheritance is not the only thing about SoT that is overtune.
They need to rework alot of talents and such for it to be balance

You know, i just don't get behind their thought process. What should be her catch? i mean:
Grail Knight: No Range
Engineer: Use that crank gun, don't forget to reaload.
Sister of the Thumb: spam ult, ult must be strong AF, extra ammo, extra heal, big HP, unique capabilites.

Not one single weak link? Her passive "murder of spites" screams for "-x% damage against healthy enemies", but no. just those buffe bro.

FS really understands to ridicule thmeselves.
Originally posted by 76561198001829578:
Originally posted by Rider of Retarded Lion Prince:
Fatshark did in reality a crappy ass work.
Inheritance is not the only thing about SoT that is overtune.
They need to rework alot of talents and such for it to be balance
3 talents that are strong picks in their rows is hardly crappy. I'm still not even sold on the other two needing number adjustments rather than a look at ease of trigger. All in all I'd say they did great with design and functionality.
Design and functionality is one think, but how can they even justify making Javelin, as a range weapon, stronger that some of the melee weapons?

Did they not playtest Deepwood staff at all? Heatsink on it, stack crits entire day and you can life a entire patrol over and over again without problem.

Why give her 125 hp when the rest of the "support" classes only get 100 hp, is she a frontliner all the suddenly?

Passive that make her deal up to 50% more dmg to wonded targets depending on there health, im sorry what? Was she not a supporter?

Giving entire team 25% incresed healing is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ strong on its own, add her passive that make her gain thp when someone els is gaining thp when they are full almost make it unnessecery to even have thp talents on her.

Doomsight is as broken as Radiant Inheritance, gaining 3 crits as soon as anyone in the team use there ult? You can stack up 100 crits before you even meet your first enemy if you take you time doing it. Elf got some of the strongest weapon, even more now with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Javelin that make BH look like a moron, and you can stack up crits with a talent?

Bloodrazor doing so much damage that its oneshot almost everything except for CW, and you only have 40 secounds cooldown on it AND a passive with 60 secound so you can stack up 2 ults and be ready for anything.

Did i miss something?
Fatshark is dont know wtf balance is anymore even if it would hit them in the face. New elf is so broken its need a rework BIG TIME!
Solus Jun 6, 2021 @ 7:12am 
I fail to see when a mastercrafted coop game got down to a blatant e-peen rivalry. "FS new career steals all the greenies! FS new career is killing everything! FS new career is op and inba." Well if you feel your e-peen too short just don't buy the new career. If your entertainment depends on a co player's ability to kill everything with the new career just switch lobby. If anyone can't handle the green circle war he can just avoid to encounter the said class.

Sister is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awesome and extremely fun to play. She brings original gameplay to the table combined with real power impact true to the lore. If you can't have fun playing with her just avoid it. End of story.
Originally posted by Solus:
I fail to see when a mastercrafted coop game got down to a blatant e-peen rivalry. "FS new career steals all the greenies! FS new career is killing everything! FS new career is op and inba." Well if you feel your e-peen too short just don't buy the new career. If your entertainment depends on a co player's ability to kill everything with the new career just switch lobby. If anyone can't handle the green circle war he can just avoid to encounter the said class.

Sister is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awesome and extremely fun to play. She brings original gameplay to the table combined with real power impact true to the lore. If you can't have fun playing with her just avoid it. End of story.

:steamthumbsup:nailed
Ardariel Jun 6, 2021 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by Solus:
I fail to see when a mastercrafted coop game got down to a blatant e-peen rivalry. "FS new career steals all the greenies! FS new career is killing everything! FS new career is op and inba." Well if you feel your e-peen too short just don't buy the new career. If your entertainment depends on a co player's ability to kill everything with the new career just switch lobby. If anyone can't handle the green circle war he can just avoid to encounter the said class.

Sister is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awesome and extremely fun to play. She brings original gameplay to the table combined with real power impact true to the lore. If you can't have fun playing with her just avoid it. End of story.

Thats the problem. Considering how OP she is it is gonna be same old story as with BH at some point. It woul dbe every lobby. So people would start to play more private lobbies. And those, who have fun playing this career would get tired of playing solo with bots. And thing is, mos tof them suck at game to begin with (hence playing OP career and having fun with it,) and start abandon game.

So yeah, this is problem. You see start of logic route, jus tcontinue this path and you would see how problematic such OP career is to whole p[l;ayerbase. Even for those, who advocate for he right now.

P.S. And with DH it was not an issue, as he required some skill to aim to begin with. So while he was indeed in every lobby, he was not guaranteed boredom for 3 other players. In most cases we see plain old "i wanna be cool" engi who suck 99% of time.
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Solus Jun 6, 2021 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by Ardariel:
Originally posted by Solus:
I fail to see when a mastercrafted coop game got down to a blatant e-peen rivalry. "FS new career steals all the greenies! FS new career is killing everything! FS new career is op and inba." Well if you feel your e-peen too short just don't buy the new career. If your entertainment depends on a co player's ability to kill everything with the new career just switch lobby. If anyone can't handle the green circle war he can just avoid to encounter the said class.

Sister is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awesome and extremely fun to play. She brings original gameplay to the table combined with real power impact true to the lore. If you can't have fun playing with her just avoid it. End of story.

Thats the problem. Considering how OP she is it is gonna be same old story as with BH at some point. It woul dbe every lobby. So people would start to play more private lobbies. And those, who have fun playing this career would get tired of playing solo with bots. And thing is, mos tof them suck at game to begin with (hence playing OP career and having fun with it,) and start abandon game.

So yeah, this is problem. You see start of logic route, jus tcontinue this path and you would see how problematic such OP career is to whole p[l;ayerbase. Even for those, who advocate for he right now.

P.S. And with DH it was not an issue, as he required some skill to aim to begin with. So while he was indeed in every lobby, he was not guaranteed boredom for 3 other players. In most cases we see plain old "i wanna be cool" engi who suck 99% of time.
I still don't see where the actual problem is. Player base will be the same as always. If player get bored or anything let them take a break and then they will come back (or not - i don't care much). It will be as always has been. An eruption of solo lobbies playing the new career until everyone gets bored and everything returns to normal.

Actually my point is let everyone have fun the way they want. Let the bad player uave fun using the "op" career. Let the "good" player have fun using the said career on extremely high diffs or just avoid her if they think her "unplayably" stronk (wtf). Also if anyone gets bored he can always look for another lobby/team.

So... I ask again what is the actual problem in a coop game where no competition is involved and everyone can have his fun the way he wants?

Ps. Ardi i think you belong to the old guard of this game since vermin 1, like i do so you know it is always the same story. So if you really have half the experience/skill i think you have you should be the last opposing clutches to weak players or private lobbies, bored players and ♥♥♥♥ like this.
765 Jun 6, 2021 @ 2:13pm 
Originally posted by ·ºSHo.oTº·:
shes so op I hardly want to play anymore because of it actually

Right? "Ok let's try the new elf but let's do normal cata cause I have no clue what I'm doing..."
*Whoops more than twice the dmg and kills of everyone else.*
765 Jun 6, 2021 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by Solus:
I fail to see when a mastercrafted coop game got down to a blatant e-peen rivalry. "FS new career steals all the greenies! FS new career is killing everything! FS new career is op and inba." Well if you feel your e-peen too short just don't buy the new career. If your entertainment depends on a co player's ability to kill everything with the new career just switch lobby. If anyone can't handle the green circle war he can just avoid to encounter the said class.

Sister is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awesome and extremely fun to play. She brings original gameplay to the table combined with real power impact true to the lore. If you can't have fun playing with her just avoid it. End of story.

Well then why don't you go play on recruit if you don't mind the game being boringly easy?
Solus Jun 6, 2021 @ 11:10pm 
Originally posted by Runeguard of Avelorn:
Originally posted by Solus:
I fail to see when a mastercrafted coop game got down to a blatant e-peen rivalry. "FS new career steals all the greenies! FS new career is killing everything! FS new career is op and inba." Well if you feel your e-peen too short just don't buy the new career. If your entertainment depends on a co player's ability to kill everything with the new career just switch lobby. If anyone can't handle the green circle war he can just avoid to encounter the said class.

Sister is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awesome and extremely fun to play. She brings original gameplay to the table combined with real power impact true to the lore. If you can't have fun playing with her just avoid it. End of story.

Well then why don't you go play on recruit if you don't mind the game being boringly easy?
If i wanted to play on recruit i would play on recruit. You could also join me and have a chat ingame talking about the weather.

Thing is if you are so bored of the newly released career up the difficulty (there is always the modded realm for some onslaught) or just stay away from her. Easy right?

You know I can't take you by your hand like a little kiddo and show you how to undone your boredom.
SamEstine Jun 6, 2021 @ 11:16pm 
Originally posted by Solus:
I can't take you by your hand like a little kiddo and show you how to undone your boredom.
*Flashes a coin purse with 1000 shillings*

How about now?
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