I'm convinced Outcast Engineer's real problem are bad teamates.

[GLM]

I want to pull my hair out, like UGGHH.

I decided to play OE for an afternoon, and by Morgrim's rusted balls, teamates just got on my nerves, people, don't know how to play around an egineer, like at all.

Everyone full THP and I'm holding down a Horde at a choke point? SHADE GO BRRRRR and takes 550 gromril rounds in that fat elgi arse of hers.

Horde spawned behind us in a defensible spot? good I'll hold off this angle and... WHY ARE YOU ALL ACROSS THE MAP?

I'm killing a blob of marauders coming for us? walk through me, while I'm firing, take an axe to their dimwitted elgi head because I tried to not hit that phat elgi arse and stopped staggering one of the Marauders... and Moonbown half my HP later as a thank you.

Monster spawned and I'm using torpedo to stunlock it? HUG THAT CUTE TENTACLED BLOB I WANT ALL THE FRIENDLY FIRE.

Skittergate with GK, Sister of Thorns and Bounty Hunter.... I fire one torpedo at the start of the fight before someone decides to give the big rat a hug and to give some small contribuition to the otherwise clear cut fight, and proceed to clear adds... somehow Deathrattler is still alive after 5s, they all died, and ♥♥♥♥ talk saying IT WAS MY FAULT FOR MESSING WITH HIS AGGRO.

I had more friendly fire than damage taken on most the time, though I still had less FF than most of the Moonbownhappy Wutelgis in the 7 or so game I got to play.

[NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Keep shoooting. Just keep shooting. They walk in front of you that's their fault.

[Sticky Mick]

It's the same problem that drakefire gun has had since day 1. People want to play the game not stand around spectating a stationary dwarf player pressing LMB. If you play with randos, you'll mostly get people that don't want to accommodate your builds if it means they have less fun.

[NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

And they can walk in front of your fire and get bullets in the ass. Consequences.

[Horrid]

Originally posted by NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯:

Keep shoooting. Just keep shooting. They walk in front of you that's their fault.

Yes.... yes.... YES!

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

One good thing to come out of this is that OE highlights the importance of team work. Like, its not just a mythical concept that involves meta gaming and expecting everyone to follow your lead, its about following through with your teammates by observing their movements and tactics.

[SNAAAKE]

No one wants to baby sit you bud, sorry. Outcast Engi is the worst class in the game. Period.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Originally posted by Sticky Mick:

It's the same problem that drakefire gun has had since day 1. People want to play the game not stand around spectating a stationary dwarf player pressing LMB. If you play with randos, you'll mostly get people that don't want to accommodate your builds if it means they have less fun.

Maybe gamers should work on their low attention spans and learn that its okay to play passively now and then. Haven't met an OE yet that is as kill-hungry as a typical elf player.

[Mirin' Brah?]

From my view protecting a Outcast Engineer it is just not a fun way to play. What I like about Vermintide is the whole 4 people standing shoulder to shoulder cleaving through hordes of enemies coming from all sides. Sitting half afk in a corridor watching a guy with a loud ass gun just holding down a button is just not what I signed up for.

[GalloglassCA]

I tend to find I don't have too many issues getting ff'd by OEs, since I know where to stand, and since clearing waves and making sure people are not hit in the back is a good thing anyway, I don't mind at all making sure a mob stays off of an OE. People that think that is babysitting are just bad players.

[Yuuki]

Play on Legend and blame teammates lmao.

You should have known by now that Legend has 50-50 chances of noobs in every match. Blaming them is like kicking your own ass.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Originally posted by Wilehad:

I tend to find I don't have too many issues getting ff'd by OEs, since I know where to stand, and since clearing waves and making sure people are not hit in the back is a good thing anyway, I don't mind at all making sure a mob stays off of an OE. People that think that is babysitting are just bad players.

Yeah, didn't you know? Outcast Engineer has a hidden modifier aura that makes all enemies automatically ignore his teammates and target dwarf, and also makes it so enemies will never spawn behind him. Though if that does happen, it's still totally OE's fault for existing. /j

[GLM]

Originally posted by SNAAAKE:

No one wants to baby sit you bud, sorry. Outcast Engi is the worst class in the game. Period.

Dont need babysittin. Problem is quite the oppositte.

Its more the likes of teamates being so hungry they walk in front of the firing line, even when there is still a lotta stuff coming from the other way.

OE requires you to have your game on and be wary of your surroundings when using the gun, while also getting a feel for what you can get away before you need to switch to meele and block. (less so with lag, lag is hell on OE).

You only require babysitting if you're ♥♥♥♥ at OE and don't know how to use his gun properly.

[NoSavy¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Originally posted by Wilehad:

I tend to find I don't have too many issues getting ff'd by OEs, since I know where to stand, and since clearing waves and making sure people are not hit in the back is a good thing anyway, I don't mind at all making sure a mob stays off of an OE. People that think that is babysitting are just bad players.

It's mot rocket science to up your mouse sensitivity enough so you can quickly turn around and look behind you. Takes less than a second.

[Calculus]

Meanwhile im constantly with engis that will shoot at 2 skaven slaves while ignoring huge horde behind... well... everyone is focused with these 2, while i keep the horde at bay, question is will they turn around, or run forward leaving me behind (because there are no enemies), while i get overrun

[GalloglassCA]

Originally posted by William See 🖋:

Originally posted by Wilehad:

I tend to find I don't have too many issues getting ff'd by OEs, since I know where to stand, and since clearing waves and making sure people are not hit in the back is a good thing anyway, I don't mind at all making sure a mob stays off of an OE. People that think that is babysitting are just bad players.

Yeah, didn't you know? Outcast Engineer has a hidden modifier aura that makes all enemies automatically ignore his teammates and target dwarf, and also makes it so enemies will never spawn behind him. Though if that does happen, it's still totally OE's fault for existing. /j

My god you're bitter.