Tips for Bretonnian Longsword?

[Dionysus 🐭]

It just seems so... I don't know, clunky to use? And that's on top of the average armor and single target damage, average cleave, average speed, etc. Of course it has unique mechanics, such as the ability to block attacks while holding the heavy attack, and the slight speed boost after releasing heavy attack, but I don't think those make up for it's shortcoming compared to something like exe sword. Comparing to exe sword specifically, exe sword has better horde clear and better single-target/armored damage, at the cost of being slightly slower and having much less mobility.

I really want to like Bretonnian Longsword, does anyone have any tips to use it more effectively?

[Mei]

Not really a tip, but it took me quite a few games to get used to this weapon. Much longer than all the other weapons. But i do think the clunkiness of it goes away after that and it becomes a joy to use.

[Moschusbock]

i´m not sold on bret longsword as well.
something of note is that it can stun CWs out of overheads on FK with massive investment. this is neat, but the investment really is huge.
i personally found it best on merc, because of his extra cleave. the light attacks dont have enough cleave to really work in hordes on GK and FK. on merc the heavy2 into light2 and repeat combo actually does a lot of work against hordes. without the reduced enemy mass, paced strikes and the more consistent SS bret longsword is kinda slow and gets stuck in the first enemy it hits.

edit: but as soon as hordes get mixed its best to just heavy1 spam.

[Scout]

Originally posted by aaronth07:

It just seems so... I don't know, clunky to use? And that's on top of the average armor and single target damage, average cleave, average speed, etc. Of course it has unique mechanics, such as the ability to block attacks while holding the heavy attack, and the slight speed boost after releasing heavy attack, but I don't think those make up for it's shortcoming compared to something like exe sword. Comparing to exe sword specifically, exe sword has better horde clear and better single-target/armored damage, at the cost of being slightly slower and having much less mobility.

I really want to like Bretonnian Longsword, does anyone have any tips to use it more effectively?

This is jack of all trades weapon,its a 2 hander with 20% dodge and ability to block during charge + linesman on light atk with good cleave limit and heavy linesman on charge,this is insane combo for one weapon.Not a single 2hander in the game has more than 10% dodge(minus busted op as ♥♥♥♥ should be deleted from the game bill hook).The only thing this weapon lack is atk speed.For clearing hordes use l1>l2> block cancel,repeat,for armor use push atk>charge 3 or push atk>into endless charges depending on how much space you have.For extra thicc hordes use l1>charge 2.This is very solid weapon which has no weakness at all, but at the same time not the best in slot for specific task.

[Neptune Towers]

Originally posted by aaronth07:

It just seems so... I don't know, clunky to use? And that's on top of the average armor and single target damage, average cleave, average speed, etc. Of course it has unique mechanics, such as the ability to block attacks while holding the heavy attack, and the slight speed boost after releasing heavy attack, but I don't think those make up for it's shortcoming compared to something like exe sword. Comparing to exe sword specifically, exe sword has better horde clear and better single-target/armored damage, at the cost of being slightly slower and having much less mobility.

I really want to like Bretonnian Longsword, does anyone have any tips to use it more effectively?

I don't know why you'd call it average in the single target and armor departments. I've only used it on grail knight, but it hits like a truck in his hands. In my opinion it's mostly a duelist's weapon, having a focus on single target prowess and with limited use versus large numbers of enemies. However, if you've learned the movement patterns and have good positioning, you should be able to mow down hordes as well with ease.

[Scout]

Originally posted by .xXx.W4R10KK.xXx.:

Originally posted by aaronth07:

It just seems so... I don't know, clunky to use? And that's on top of the average armor and single target damage, average cleave, average speed, etc. Of course it has unique mechanics, such as the ability to block attacks while holding the heavy attack, and the slight speed boost after releasing heavy attack, but I don't think those make up for it's shortcoming compared to something like exe sword. Comparing to exe sword specifically, exe sword has better horde clear and better single-target/armored damage, at the cost of being slightly slower and having much less mobility.

I really want to like Bretonnian Longsword, does anyone have any tips to use it more effectively?

I don't know why you'd call it average in the single target and armor departments. I've only used it on grail knight, but it hits like a truck in his hands. In my opinion it's mostly a duelist's weapon, having a focus on single target prowess and with limited use versus large numbers of enemies. However, if you've learned the movement patterns and have good positioning, you should be able to mow down hordes as well with ease.

Gk is not a good pick for longsword to shine,25% damage bonus for one strike and 30% power on kills compared to merc power+crit +atk speed bonuses or footknight with constant +50% atk speed.Also i have no idea how you come to conclusion longsword is duelist weapon.

[Scout]

Originally posted by Syreal:

I use the Breton long sword with the GK and destroy everything that comes my way. With the holding att you destroy Stormrats ez with one hit and other elite with a light swing follow after it. I don't know what the others mean by that the weapon wouldn't be the best for GK, I'm every time at 10k + damage and otherwise also place 1 on ez champ runs even Kerillian has no chance against the GK

You dont know what others mean because you think one shotting elites in champion worth a post.

[Neptune Towers]

Originally posted by Scout:

Also i have no idea how you come to conclusion longsword is duelist weapon.

It has the potential to one-shot just about any single target and doesn't have the best design to be dealing with hordes, at least compared to other swords.

[Zarious101]

I really like doing the combo for discipline talent to increase power level 20% and the block trait to increase damage dealt by 20%. ( Virtue of Discipline talent and off balance ) because they stack well on the bretonian longsword and for monsters that can get some big damage close to the executioner sword.... but you could also just take the same perks on the executioner sword so I also have mixed feelings because they're both fun to use for me. EDIT; but I prefer swift slaying on the exe sword because more atk speed is really nice on that slow weapon and it's always a hard choice for me to use the exe sword because the 2h hammer is SO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FUN with the charge attack just slamming hordes to paste and m1 spam to murder hobo armor.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

You’re wielding a bastard sword, so the thing is going to feel weighty. The thing is it’s overheads are absolutely broken and can instantly kill most high tier enemies in a few shots, if not one shots. Its not great at horde clearing but the speed buff on crit and +crit power work amazingly on it. I’m actually using it on Huntsman right now and enjoying overheading every stormvermin in existence, its a valuable defending and reposting weapon for such a squishy class.

Also, for people who still complain about the block not being useful, you just have to know when you’re going to charge that heavy in advance. It requires you to know your window of charging and to be aware of your peripherals so you’re not standing there waiting for enemies to hit you; where another weapon player might dodge because their attack missed a second wave of enemies, the LS user will hold charge and anticipate that next lunging attack and already be countering it with a heavy.

[DEAD RaNgEr 888]

bret sword is one of krubers best wepons and its good on all careers.

[YarRick1i]

I can't make the Bret Sword and Shield work worth a darn, but the bastard sword? Excellent. Tried it on all four careers a bit (mostly been playing Bardin lately), and it's never had worse than solid performance. I especially like to run Parry on it and ruin patrols' day.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Originally posted by YarRick1i:

I can't make the Bret Sword and Shield work worth a darn, but the bastard sword? Excellent. Tried it on all four careers a bit (mostly been playing Bardin lately), and it's never had worse than solid performance. I especially like to run Parry on it and ruin patrols' day.

Its the same case for shield except more focused on bashing and better stamina usage. Overheads for armors, spam light/bashes attacks on hordes, pushstab and charged stab for enemies out of range. The thing is a beast.

[om3g4_z3r0]

point it to the enemy

[BrownDiapers]

about the wide sweeps tip to that just as yo swing (heavy atk) dodge it will cover huge area and is good way to wipe large amounts of enemies in start of a horde but after that just dodge light spam you will get used to it quickly. ps with 4x crit boost you can 1shot cw in head on legend usually takes 2 hits on cata.(assuming you get crit on both hits and headshot)

[✪︎DΞ︎AD_iwnw]

I'm a krub main and I love it, way more than the exec sword. The exec sword makes you extremely slow, which will get you killed in higher difficulties. Not to mention, on legend and cata, exec sword simply doesn't do enough damage. The brett longsword does. You just have to use it different than most weapons.

The way I use it is 2 heavy attacks and then a push. Knocks everything down after the two attacks before they can hit you. Then rinse and repeat. Constantly at the top of the damage leaderboard because of this.