What's the point of the hagbane shortbow?

[SaiyanStrike]

I did some math on the total damage overtime for a single head shot on one of the unarmored dummies at the keep and got a total of 6,375. Compared to a single shot of my longbow at 16,450, plus having more ammo, what is the point of the hagbane shortbow being in the game? The slow caused by the poison? I can't see that being too helpful when hordes are swarming you. Just wanted to ask if anyone else has any information on this weapon and what its purpose in the game would be. Thank you.

[YMFTCTB]

i would guess aoe? if the hagbane does aoe, which i think it does?

[Mikha-凛]

its a good rage inducing troll friendly fire weapon

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by ReaperBoy909:

i would guess aoe? if the hagbane does aoe, which i think it does?

That, and its ability to AoE stagger enemies.

[Kotzi]

Feels weak and is anoying. Longbow is by far the best one, switft can work too and is fun at times. Hagbane is just trash imho.

[Missa La Hache]

Hagbane is the best multipurpose ranged weapon in the game. Godlike against horde, really good against monsters, not that bad at sniping special and it can stagger a whole patrols. Use it with the double arrow proc on waystalker talents.

It takes some practice to use at its full power but it is a really strong weapon. At least in Legend. I would only use it in cata if you already have another sniping boy in the team.

That's my 2 cents.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Well, in theory it should be good, ignores armour, aoe, dots, but meh, I don't use it. Longbow is better, has more ammo, consistent and powerful damage. A drakefire can handle the hordes if thats an issue, and a Shade does more reliable monster damage.

[SkacikPL]

Hagbane offers AOE displacement on hordes and great stagger on headshots. Up to legend difficulty you can get decent kills with it but even on Cata it's somewhat viable due to its displacement and horde-delaying capabilities.

Although the FF on it is quite absord with the DOT.

[Varivox]

It's better for horde clearing and FF. Ignores armour too and is decent at annoying monsters and such. Less good at horde clearing than swiftbow, but better against armour.

Still, I think it's the weakest of the bows overall.

[om3g4_z3r0]

It turns kerillian into an eco-friendly sienna.
full charge and you stagger elites, aoe is great for killing trash.
Its my go to weapon of choice for the elf.
i use melee for heavies i use hagbane for trash.

[Big Sneeze]

Kind of been outclassed by the regular Shortbow for a while now.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Heavy stagger, good aoe, good for loosing a few arrows into a special so you can focus for an extra few seconds on trash mobs.

[Xaphnir]

Originally posted by SkacikPL:

Although the FF on it is quite absord with the DOT.

In terms of raw damage, I've never really noticed it do a ton. Yeah, you'll often hit people with FF, but only like 1 point per tick or something on legend. I usually see more FF from longbow.

[Neptune Towers]

Originally posted by SaiyanStrike:

I did some math on the total damage overtime for a single head shot on one of the unarmored dummies at the keep and got a total of 6,375. Compared to a single shot of my longbow at 16,450, plus having more ammo, what is the point of the hagbane shortbow being in the game? The slow caused by the poison? I can't see that being too helpful when hordes are swarming you. Just wanted to ask if anyone else has any information on this weapon and what its purpose in the game would be. Thank you.

Hagbane kills all specials and elites on Legend in 1-2 charged shots, depending on the enemy and your own build, and on Cataclysm in 1-3 charged shots (in all cases, even if death isn't instant on the shot, give it a few seconds for the poison to kick in). On top of that, the charged shots stagger almost anything, do insane horde damage with the AoE blast and also have very high monster damage. In other words, it is by far the most versatile and powerful bow for the Waystalker due to her ability to replenish ammo. In order to avoid deleting your team mates, just learn to jump before you shoot (so that you shoot over them and not into their backs) and use your common sense. There's no need to blast a single rat if someone is already on him, and when holding a choke point against a horde you can jump and shoot over your team into the approaching enemies instead of blasting straight in the back of your allies. Doing so will reduce your FF to absolutely negligible amounts.

[guts' theme (Cut & Looped)]

Pretty good dot damage if you use the 1 shot = 2 arrow skill on Waywatcher but the FF makes it too annoying.

[Step Sis Proof Appliances]

Originally posted by Missa La Hache:

Hagbane is the best multipurpose ranged weapon in the game. Godlike against horde, really good against monsters, not that bad at sniping special and it can stagger a whole patrols. Use it with the double arrow proc on waystalker talents.

It takes some practice to use at its full power but it is a really strong weapon. At least in Legend. I would only use it in cata if you already have another sniping boy in the team.

That's my 2 cents.

I would agree with this too. Plus it's one of the best weapons to FF your peskymayfly teammates. That's always a plus! In all seriousness though, it's a very good weapon and not too hard to be mindful with.