The Slayers limited weapon choice is bugging me.

[Mug]

I see the salyer as a weapons specialist, and since he has no range weapon to boot, why not make it so he can use any melee weapon from any class? I understand siennas flame sword might not make sense, but the spear or the rapier could work. Was this a design decision by the devs to keep the game following warhammer lore? Can someone explain?

[Gorwe]

Myrmidon původně napsal:

I have harboured hope for a long time that Bardin would one day get a Dwarf'esque type sword. They don't use swords in many franchises/universes but when they do they do tend to reflect Dwarf culture and practicality quite accurately in that they're quite broad bladed and top-heavy choppy. More akin to gladii or falchions/machetes than more generic short swords.

Something juicy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDt_tIcca-k (Shadiversity ; that guy's just <3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seih9n2MuYc (Skallagrim ; a dam good guy too)

[Myrmidon]

Gorwe původně napsal:

Myrmidon původně napsal:

I have harboured hope for a long time that Bardin would one day get a Dwarf'esque type sword. They don't use swords in many franchises/universes but when they do they do tend to reflect Dwarf culture and practicality quite accurately in that they're quite broad bladed and top-heavy choppy. More akin to gladii or falchions/machetes than more generic short swords.

Something juicy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDt_tIcca-k (Shadiversity ; that guy's just <3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seih9n2MuYc (Skallagrim ; a dam good guy too)

Seen both of these tis good stuff.

halogamb původně napsal:

Dwarven Warpike would be awesome.

I'm one of the few advocates for the reasonable practicality of Dwarves using polearms. Are you joining the cause? So far the main opposition is *clears throat* lemme get this right: "buhhh tunnels tho". I mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right?

[Sparda]

Warhammer dwarfs would never use anything but dwarf weapons. A slayer would use his bare hands if no dwarf weapon was around, he would make use of the enviroment and smash some skills on a big boulder but would never personaly use a man or elf made weapon.

Gorwe původně napsal:

Myrmidon původně napsal:

I have harboured hope for a long time that Bardin would one day get a Dwarf'esque type sword. They don't use swords in many franchises/universes but when they do they do tend to reflect Dwarf culture and practicality quite accurately in that they're quite broad bladed and top-heavy choppy. More akin to gladii or falchions/machetes than more generic short swords.

Something juicy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDt_tIcca-k (Shadiversity ; that guy's just <3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seih9n2MuYc (Skallagrim ; a dam good guy too)

That may work for dwarfs outside of warhammer but warhammer dwarfs just would not do it.
They are much stronger then other dwarfs from other worlds imo and a WH dwarf with a axe is one mean sob.

[Gorwe]

Sparda původně napsal:

Warhammer dwarfs would never use anything but dwarf weapons. A slayer would use his bare hands if no dwarf weapon was around, he would make use of the enviroment and smash some skills on a big boulder but would never personaly use a man or elf made weapon.

Gorwe původně napsal:

Something juicy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDt_tIcca-k (Shadiversity ; that guy's just <3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seih9n2MuYc (Skallagrim ; a dam good guy too)

That may work for dwarfs outside of warhammer but warhammer dwarfs just would not do it.
They are much stronger then other dwarfs from other worlds imo and a WH dwarf with a axe is one mean sob.

Until GW sees $$$ and makes Dwarfs with Kriegsmessers(pl?). Take for example Thorin and his...whatever it is. Pretty cool, no? And PRACTICAL!

I'll still say that Spears, Polearms, Shotguns, Flamethrowers, Organ Guns...all of those are WICKED in closed spaces which is exactly what the Dwarfen realm is. Ok, the last is a sort of 8 barreled culverin.

[skibidi groilet]

lmao

[Awakened Gamer]

Bro if you do not like axes just roll something else, your missing out trust me, this is part of the fun factor of the class, besides do other classes really have much of an option when it comes to their ranged? Not really so its not that different then other classes right now.

[FilipinoMilitiaMan]

Dwarves will use swords if they're magic weapons, such as a Giant Blade (2h sword) or a Sword of Might.

However, magic items are pretty rare in Warhammer. Even though some of the weapons in Vermintide are "magical," they would be considered to be just "well-made weapons" in tabletop.

The reason is they don't have properties like cutting through all metal, leather, and wood (Obsidian Blade) or increase physical attributes of the wielder (such as making the user move faster than humanly possible).

So all that being said, Bardin probably wouldn't use any swords because such weapons are crafted by expert runesmiths who would only give those blades to Thanes or Rune Priests.

[halogamb]

Myrmidon původně napsal:

halogamb původně napsal:

Dwarven Warpike would be awesome.

I'm one of the few advocates for the reasonable practicality of Dwarves using polearms. Are you joining the cause? So far the main opposition is *clears throat* lemme get this right: "buhhh tunnels tho". I mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right?

Dwarven tunnels aren't like.....the height and width of one dwarf so people who claim that tunnels are a problem have poor knowledge of fantasy. Dwarves in fantasy have their version of the halberd (warpike), though it's not exactly like it since it is an axe on one end and a hook on the other, and spear (urgosh). The Urgosh is actually a double-ended weapon that has been in D&D for a very long time. One end is an axe and the other is a spear. Both D&D and Warhammer follow similar cultural rules for Dwarven weapons. This is, the majority of Dwarven weapons have some practical tool-based use as well. Axes for chopping, hammers for bashing stuff, spears for hunting, pickaxes for mining, hooks for grabbing and dragging. They rarely, if ever, use swords because they don't have any use as a tool. To a dwarf, their personal tool was also their weapon.

[tyke]

Mug původně napsal:

the rapier could work.

no

Mug původně napsal:

Can someone explain?

it's like this
https://youtu.be/oncaOuH6NqY?t=40s
40 seconds +

[Awakened Gamer]

Also ib is another good career slayer is not the only one.

[Gorwe]

halogamb původně napsal:

Myrmidon původně napsal:

I'm one of the few advocates for the reasonable practicality of Dwarves using polearms. Are you joining the cause? So far the main opposition is *clears throat* lemme get this right: "buhhh tunnels tho". I mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right?

Dwarven tunnels aren't like.....the height and width of one dwarf so people who claim that tunnels are a problem have poor knowledge of fantasy. Dwarves in fantasy have their version of the halberd (warpike), though it's not exactly like it since it is an axe on one end and a hook on the other, and spear (urgosh). The Urgosh is actually a double-ended weapon that has been in D&D for a very long time. One end is an axe and the other is a spear. Both D&D and Warhammer follow similar cultural rules for Dwarven weapons. This is, the majority of Dwarven weapons have some practical tool-based use as well. Axes for chopping, hammers for bashing stuff, spears for hunting, pickaxes for mining, hooks for grabbing and dragging. They rarely, if ever, use swords because they don't have any use as a tool. To a dwarf, their personal tool was also their weapon.

What about Shields and Gunpowder / Fire weapons though? They're not tools...

That point about Tools is especially visible on a Ranger. Almost everything he uses is practical in some way.

[halogamb]

Gorwe původně napsal:

halogamb původně napsal:

Dwarven tunnels aren't like.....the height and width of one dwarf so people who claim that tunnels are a problem have poor knowledge of fantasy. Dwarves in fantasy have their version of the halberd (warpike), though it's not exactly like it since it is an axe on one end and a hook on the other, and spear (urgosh). The Urgosh is actually a double-ended weapon that has been in D&D for a very long time. One end is an axe and the other is a spear. Both D&D and Warhammer follow similar cultural rules for Dwarven weapons. This is, the majority of Dwarven weapons have some practical tool-based use as well. Axes for chopping, hammers for bashing stuff, spears for hunting, pickaxes for mining, hooks for grabbing and dragging. They rarely, if ever, use swords because they don't have any use as a tool. To a dwarf, their personal tool was also their weapon.

What about Shields and Gunpowder / Fire weapons though? They're not tools...

That point about Tools is especially visible on a Ranger. Almost everything he uses is practical in some way.

A shield is armor to a Dwarf. Gunpowder and fire themselves make blasting charges for mining and prospecting. There are a few exceptions to this though as I did say most and those are usually the ranged weapons. But most every ranged warhammer dwarf (thunderer, quarreler, ranger, irondrake) whips out an axe at the very least when they get into close range.

[Gorwe]

Mug původně napsal:

I see the salyer as a weapons specialist, and since he has no range weapon to boot, why not make it so he can use any melee weapon from any class? I understand siennas flame sword might not make sense, but the spear or the rapier could work. Was this a design decision by the devs to keep the game following warhammer lore? Can someone explain?

Try this mod:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1417461746&searchtext=

[The Guiding Light]

this is Warhammer fantasy mate...dwarfs use axes, hammers and pick axes..thats it