Why doesn't Foot Knight have the spear?

[AC3NATOR]

I mean, it's not really feasible to say it is not so for lore reasons, since you can get a templar's spear skin for him, therefore it's no longer a huntsman spear i.e. a lower class weapon, so a knight could use it.

Balance-wise, just why would it be too good? Are we going to sacrifice build variety on the altar of balance in a co-op game?

[Zoli]

Knights didn't use pikes on the battlefield. Kruber's spear is based on IRL landsknecht pikemen.

[AC3NATOR]

You do know that the game has Warhammer on it?

[Domz_commando]

Why would you ever use a spear as a footknight, if you have a hulberd?... It's fast, has long range and it's armorpiercing. If you are skilled enough, it's the best weapon in the world.

Just imagine - Halberd is a SPEAR! But with a small axe on the end. Uh? It's much better than just a spear.

[Zoli]

The warhammer or actually the maul is a fantasy "weapon".
But you are right, it would be better to limit it to FK.

[skibidi groilet]

lmao who knows

[Rider of Retarded Lion Prince]

Originally posted by AC3NATOR:

You do know that the game has Warhammer on it?

And Warhammer Fanstasy is basicly human history on crack. The Empire is inspired on german, english and roman history when Bretonnia is france if i remember right.
Thats why Empire is more footsoldier and such when Bretonnia is more Knight and alike.

Norsca for example is Nordic vikinga with myth and legend from viking tales about Vallhalla.
Dwarfs in Warhammer is almost copy paste from it.

Lizardmen is Aztec and Maya indians, far in the east you have a island named Nippon where Clan Eshin from Skavens learn assassin and "ninja"skills.

The High Elf continent of Ulthare or whatever the name is are copy from old legend about Atlantis. The more you read the more you see how simulare the history in warhammer is with the real world.

So yeah, Krubers merc class is basicly german landsknecht pikemen.

[AC3NATOR]

Originally posted by Rider of Retarded Lion Prince:

Originally posted by AC3NATOR:

You do know that the game has Warhammer on it?

And Warhammer Fanstasy is basicly human history on crack. The Empire is inspired on german, english and roman history when Bretonnia is france if i remember right.
Thats why Empire is more footsoldier and such when Bretonnia is more Knight and alike.

Norsca for example is Nordic vikinga with myth and legend from viking tales about Vallhalla.
Dwarfs in Warhammer is almost copy paste from it.

Lizardmen is Aztec and Maya indians, far in the east you have a island named Nippon where Clan Eshin from Skavens learn assassin and "ninja"skills.

The High Elf continent of Ulthare or whatever the name is are copy from old legend about Atlantis. The more you read the more you see how simulare the history in warhammer is with the real world.

So yeah, Krubers merc class is basicly german landsknecht pikemen.

Please note, "on crack", so a foot knight could use any weapon really.

Originally posted by Siberian_cerberus:

Why would you ever use a spear as a footknight, if you have a hulberd?... It's fast, has long range and it's armorpiercing. If you are skilled enough, it's the best weapon in the world.

Just imagine - Halberd is a SPEAR! But with a small axe on the end. Uh? It's much better than just a spear.

Spear has different moveset to halberd, that's why it is sad that you don't get to have more build variety

Originally posted by Zoli:

The warhammer or actually the maul is a fantasy "weapon".
But you are right, it would be better to limit it to FK.

It shouldn't be limited to any of the three careers and that was my point.

[Rider of Retarded Lion Prince]

Originally posted by AC3NATOR:

Originally posted by Rider of Retarded Lion Prince:

And Warhammer Fanstasy is basicly human history on crack. The Empire is inspired on german, english and roman history when Bretonnia is france if i remember right.
Thats why Empire is more footsoldier and such when Bretonnia is more Knight and alike.

Norsca for example is Nordic vikinga with myth and legend from viking tales about Vallhalla.
Dwarfs in Warhammer is almost copy paste from it.

Lizardmen is Aztec and Maya indians, far in the east you have a island named Nippon where Clan Eshin from Skavens learn assassin and "ninja"skills.

The High Elf continent of Ulthare or whatever the name is are copy from old legend about Atlantis. The more you read the more you see how simulare the history in warhammer is with the real world.

So yeah, Krubers merc class is basicly german landsknecht pikemen.

Please note, "on crack", so a foot knight could use any weapon really.

Yeah, the history, but most units is just copy from real life unless you look at stuff like Lizardmen, but even there they have crude shields and weapons that Aztec and Maya was using.
Empire and Bretonnia is just copy from real history except for maybe artillery units, flying horse and such, but base units is still pretty accurate from history.

I agree with you, not giving the FK the spear is a dumb choice as he would be amazing with it, but its not "lore-friendly" i belive and thats why Fatshark did go the way they did.

[Karl Power]

Originally posted by Zoli:

Knights didn't use pikes on the battlefield. Kruber's spear is based on IRL landsknecht pikemen.

Knights absolutely did use pikes - or rather: their lances as pikes - on the battlefield. It was quite customary in the 14th and especially the 15th century for knights to dismount before battle and use their lances to create a pike formation. This exactly is what made the Swiss turn away from their traditional halberd towards the pike as a front-rank arm, with well-known consequences.

Battle of Sempach 1386; one first major encounter in open terrain (!) with dismounted Austrian knights:

Swiss on the left, Austrian on the right:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlacht_bei_Sempach#/media/Datei:Kapelle_Sempach_Gem%C3%A4lde.jpg

Same. You can see the Austrian knights wielding long polearms; the ones on the right already turn to flee:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sempach#/media/File:Sempach_Schilling.jpg

Swiss on the right, Austrians on the left, Winkelried sacrifices himself, grabs the enemy pikes to enable a breakthrough:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlacht_bei_Sempach#/media/Datei:Winkelried.jpg

Again Winkelried:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sempach#/media/File:Holzschnitt_Sempach.jpg

Battle of Arbedo 1422; you can still the the halberd in the front rank (Swiss are left, Italians right) but afterwards the Swiss had learnt their lesson and began fielding pikes in large numbers:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlacht_bei_Arbedo#/media/Datei:Deutsche_Geschichte5-230.jpg

[Neptune Towers]

I'd imagine it's due to some balance considerations. FK is extremely tanky and has a multi-purpose charge. Spear is already Kruber's best weapon by far, offering solid mobility, good elite damage, excellent crowd control and horde clear. It's already extremely powerful on Merc and pretty much the only weapon that doesn't make Huntsman's melee feel terrible. Put that together with FK's kit and you'd likely end up with something completely busted.

You can totally play spear with FK on modded realm though.

[Karl Power]

Originally posted by .xXx.W4R10KK.xXx.:

I'd imagine it's due to some balance considerations.

I'd guess it's even simpler. From a developer's perspective the careers need to be different to be interesting. If everyone uses the same weapons, you might never be tempted to play another career than your favourite.

[Neptune Towers]

Originally posted by Karl Power:

Originally posted by .xXx.W4R10KK.xXx.:

I'd imagine it's due to some balance considerations.

I'd guess it's even simpler. From a developer's perspective the careers need to be different to be interesting. If everyone uses the same weapons, you might never be tempted to play another career than your favourite.

Weapon choices are a bit of a mess overall, I think. Some are limited by more or less vague lore considerations, others likely by balance. Still, there's plenty of busted weapons that are free to use across all careers.

[Dame Arstor]

Originally posted by .xXx.W4R10KK.xXx.:

You can totally play spear with FK on modded realm though.

Spear FK is hilariously broken.I love it.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Originally posted by .xXx.W4R10KK.xXx.:

It's already extremely powerful on Merc and pretty much the only weapon that doesn't make Huntsman's melee feel terrible.

You should try mace on Huntsman. I did some Cata with it, and I was actually feeling more solid than the spear.

[DukeoftheAges]

But you have the halberd, just use that