"Added an exploit that allows players to customise their Deed difficulties and map choices."

[Bounty_V]

^^^ ???

This is from the latest patch notes and has me really confused.

Assuming this was intentional wording and they did add something, anyone figure out how to customize their deeds?

[Pungent]

Obviously, otherwise it wouldn't have been addressed.

It's the method everyone's been using for a long time now to change up deeds by making them quickplay, or different difficulty/map.

[Bounty_V]

Originally posted by Pungent:

Obviously, otherwise it wouldn't have been addressed.

It's the method everyone's been using for a long time now to change up deeds by making them quickplay, or different difficulty/map.

It says ADDED tho? You're saying it like it got removed and this should be obvious. That's why it's confusing.

Which method is that?

[O_T]

They fixed a exploit and readded it as a feature.

[Bounty_V]

Originally posted by O_T:

They fixed a exploit and readded it as a feature.

That's pretty cool! So how does this feature work? How do those of us who weren't aware of how it worked use it? That's what I'm asking :P

[O_T]

IIRC: You need a 2nd player. Player 1 is in the map selection menu. Player 2 is starting a deed mission. Player 1 is waiting until the vote is over and is starting any map or quickplay with any difficulty and player 2 is accepting. Now the choosen map or quickplay is starting with the wished difficulty but with the deed modifiers active.

In my opinion that's crap. When they think it's ok to choose the map and difficulty for deeds then they should change the deeds for everyone.

[Bounty_V]

Originally posted by O_T:

In my opinion that's crap. When they think it's ok to choose the map and difficulty for deeds then they should change the deeds for everyone.

Interesting. Yeah I agree there was surely a much easier way of going about this. Why have it in the game at all if it's going to be in the form of an exploit that's officially part of the game. It's passive agressively advocating making deeds easier...so why not just have that as a straight up feature to select deeds?

So confusing.

[Pungent]

Originally posted by Bounty_V:

It says ADDED tho? You're saying it like it got removed and this should be obvious. That's why it's confusing.

Which method is that?

Well it was obvious to people who play this regularly and who actually read the pinned topics every now and then.

This is from the experimental patch updates which were up for a good while:

We also heard that we really shouldn't be fixing the Heroic Deed exploit that some folks used to spice up their Deeds before we have improved the Deed system for players. And yep, we agree that removing that was tone deaf (feel free to blame Hedge!). In the meantime, we've reintroduced that to the game.

Since you weren't even aware of this existing, you at least never had a reason to be upset that it was gone for a while.

[Bounty_V]

Originally posted by Pungent:

Well it was obvious to people who play this regularly and who actually read the pinned topics every now and then.

This is from the experimental patch updates which were up for a good while:

We also heard that we really shouldn't be fixing the Heroic Deed exploit that some folks used to spice up their Deeds before we have improved the Deed system for players. And yep, we agree that removing that was tone deaf (feel free to blame Hedge!). In the meantime, we've reintroduced that to the game.

Since you weren't even aware of this existing, you at least never had a reason to be upset that it was gone for a while.

i see. Though you could argue by default if someone is asking, they probably haven't seen that :P Not everyone has time to sift through every part of the forum for stuff or heck, even keep up with beta branches. Thanks for answering.

-edit-

Yeah true. I honestly rarely do deeds. Don't have a group to run em with proper and the randos I've tried with LFG etc. don't get along well :P

[Kaelus Von Sestiaf]

The others already explained how the exploit works, but to give context to the patch notes:
The exploit was removed in the patch before this one, but people complained because it was a (mostly) harmless exploit that made Deeds more interesting. Fatshark has agreed to temporarily re-introduce the exploit until they do a proper rework of the deed system.

No idea when that will happen, but it sounds like it's in the works?

[One death guy]

I just tried to do the exploit and it dosent work... once I hit deed it wont let me enter mission menu again even if other player dosent press activate

so how does it work now?

[Alistair MacBain]

Originally posted by wolfwood444 vel Bazi:

I just tried to do the exploit and it dosent work... once I hit deed it wont let me enter mission menu again even if other player dosent press activate

so how does it work now?

For the current iteration of the "bug/exploit" do the following.
1. Start a deed (doesnt matter who starts).
2. Dont accept the deed yet with everyone.
3. One player that already accepted the deed goes (phyiscally) to the map and hits E on it.
4. When the map is open have the last person accept the deed.
5. Pick whatever map/difficulty/QP you want to play actually and start that game now.
6. Everyone accept it and get in the portal.
Jobs done.

Request: If you dont have a full party and you hosted a QP please have the host change the map to private once ingame as others wont be able to join but the game will still try to put them in the lobby.

[Maitre Malterre]

Well... as I understand it:
You play a Legend Deed on Recruit and get the Legend reward.
For me this is not a "small exploit" - for me it is "active cheating".
No wonder, that so many people with the 500 Deeds Portrait Frame can be seen ingame ...

[Alistair MacBain]

Most people I know use it the other way around though. They change their Deeds to QP to not be stuck on one map and play it on legend or cata.

[Rebel]

Originally posted by Alistair MacBain:

Most people I know use it the other way around though. They change their Deeds to QP to not be stuck on one map and play it on legend or cata.

Yeah, I haven't personally met anyone who actually downgrade their deeds. The reason I and many others complained was because there is no other way to play Cataclysm deeds, and no way to pick the maps that you actually want to play, and no way to pick DLC maps either, since no deeds can be found that have DLC maps.

Originally posted by Maitre Malterre:

Well... as I understand it:
You play a Legend Deed on Recruit and get the Legend reward.
For me this is not a "small exploit" - for me it is "active cheating".
No wonder, that so many people with the 500 Deeds Portrait Frame can be seen ingame ...

It's extremely minor. Vaults mean practically nothing when you have all the reds you could ever want, and reds were never necessary to begin with. That and if you're playing Legend deeds on recruit, you're still only going to get only ONE vault, instead of two. You also still actually need to get the deeds as well, and you can only get Legend deeds from vaults, so you still have to play Legend. And if someone REALLY wants to waste their life away playing 500 deeds on recruit and potentially suffering brain damage, then they are free to do so. The amount of people that got the deeds frame and used this exploit to play on lower difficulties probably doesn't exceed 10.

[Moffin Bovin]

They didn't really use the exploit to downgrade the deeds, they used it to change the map to one with a skip that they could complete in like 2 minutes. Most of the people who could be bothered to do that just to get the frame have already done it and iirc the map skip has been patched out, so removing the exploit only really punished people who used it to do cata deeds and things like that.