Best ranged weapon for witch hunter

[Armoth]

Going to be running champion and legendary. Was curious on everyone's thoughts. Thanks guys!

[halogamb]

BoP is amazing with him right now.

[Bones]

Brace of pistols is very strong right now. Crossbow will kill tagged stormvermin with a body shot if it has power vs skaven and armored. Past that it's simply preference as everything is viable.

[Crawling Chaos]

Brace of pistols.

[El Quanj]

Abuse the Brace of Pistols while you can. Power versus Skaven, Monster + tag lets you one shot packmasters.

After that, Crossbow can one shot Stormvermin.

Save Repeater pistol/Volley for when you get bored and want the challenge (they are not good on WHC)

[Pungent]

inb4 Silver comes in to tell you how unusable the BoP are and how literally every other weapon in the game is 10x better.

[Tamren]

All of them work, just pick the one you like best. BoP with rapier is my favourite.

If you pick abjure temptation for that 15% power from grim and combine that with your tag bonus you can hit all sorts of breakpoints, especially with crits.

[Gorwe]

What's so good about BoP right now?

To answer: any ranged option works. It's just that Repeater is kinda on the weaker side(imo).

[Bones]

Originally posted by Gorwe:

What's so good about BoP right now?

Stupidly high damage, for the most part. One power vs stack allows you to body shot tagged packmasters. 20.7% vs tagged SVs allows you to headshot them (which is achievable with one skaven and one armored property). It's also one of the weapons that still does pretty well with scrounger, especially if you take the increased ammo pool talent. Of course, there's also the boss damage which you just have to try out for yourself.

[GrapplingHook!]

Originally posted by Bones:

Originally posted by Gorwe:

What's so good about BoP right now?

Stupidly high damage, for the most part. One power vs stack allows you to body shot tagged packmasters. 20.7% vs tagged SVs allows you to headshot them (which is achievable with one skaven and one armored property). It's also one of the weapons that still does pretty well with scrounger, especially if you take the increased ammo pool talent. Of course, there's also the boss damage which you just have to try out for yourself.

While its true the monster damage is really good, i think the point about SV is a bit miss-leading. BoP have limited ammo, so you save for specials and bosses and the only time you ever use them on SV is when there's loads of them and you need to thin them out.

In those situations, they're already triggered and moving around/attacking and you don't really have the time or space (if you're in the middle of a horde) to place your headshots, so you usually end up 2-3 shoting them, and that's where the new clip size starts to hurt.

You usually use up the clip before they're all dead and then you've either got to effectively remove yourself from fighting while you dodge dance reload for 6 seconds, or play on empy and risk running into a special at just the wrong moment.

Just thought i'd mention this as its the main weakness of BoP at the mo.

[Tamren]

BoP is great for specials, near pinpoint accuracy and 12 shots to work with. The boss damage is just a side benefit IMO because it depletes your ammo very quickly and if you use more than 12 shots on a boss you are wasting time reloading that you could be using to melee.

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by Bones:

Originally posted by Gorwe:

What's so good about BoP right now?

Stupidly high damage, for the most part. One power vs stack allows you to body shot tagged packmasters. 20.7% vs tagged SVs allows you to headshot them (which is achievable with one skaven and one armored property). It's also one of the weapons that still does pretty well with scrounger, especially if you take the increased ammo pool talent. Of course, there's also the boss damage which you just have to try out for yourself.

Yeah, but isn't Crossbow better? They're good, don't get me wrong, but Crossbow's ridiculously good. Real Inquisitor that one! ;)

[Crawling Chaos]

Originally posted by Gorwe:

Originally posted by Bones:

Stupidly high damage, for the most part. One power vs stack allows you to body shot tagged packmasters. 20.7% vs tagged SVs allows you to headshot them (which is achievable with one skaven and one armored property). It's also one of the weapons that still does pretty well with scrounger, especially if you take the increased ammo pool talent. Of course, there's also the boss damage which you just have to try out for yourself.

Yeah, but isn't Crossbow better? They're good, don't get me wrong, but Crossbow's ridiculously good. Real Inquisitor that one! ;)

From my point of view crossbow is good only for killing specials - just like Krubers rifle and some other similar weapons. Whereas BoC is perfect against everything - hordes, specials, elites, monsters. I would say that it is the best ranged weapon in the game. Could you please explain why do you think crossbow is better?

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by Crawling Chaos:

Originally posted by Gorwe:

Yeah, but isn't Crossbow better? They're good, don't get me wrong, but Crossbow's ridiculously good. Real Inquisitor that one! ;)

From my point of view crossbow is good only for killing specials - just like Krubers rifle and some other similar weapons. Whereas BoC is perfect against everything - hordes, specials, elites, monsters. I would say that it is the best ranged weapon in the game. Could you please explain why do you think crossbow is better?

It kills everything it should kill more reliably and is overall very reliable. I don't necessarily find BoP just as reliable. It's mostly the feeling, it's irrational. Both are very good.

Now Repeater, that should get a buff or something.

[Tamren]

Crossbow also has zoom, which makes it much easier to aim than BoP at something far away.

[Bones]

Originally posted by Gorwe:

Originally posted by Crawling Chaos:

From my point of view crossbow is good only for killing specials - just like Krubers rifle and some other similar weapons. Whereas BoC is perfect against everything - hordes, specials, elites, monsters. I would say that it is the best ranged weapon in the game. Could you please explain why do you think crossbow is better?

It kills everything it should kill more reliably and is overall very reliable. I don't necessarily find BoP just as reliable. It's mostly the feeling, it's irrational. Both are very good.

Now Repeater, that should get a buff or something.

Crossbow just doesn't have much on BoP's breakpoints, is the thing. 1 shotting packmasters to the body is one extreme example. It's valid though since you can't body shot them with crossbow and headshotting them requires tag and deathknell. The 2>1 body shot breakpoints on chaos sorcerors are about identical. That's a bit stupid considering we're comparing a rapid fire, hitscan weapon with a single shot, projectile based weapon. You can run one stack of chaos, one stack of skaven and deathknell and hit a ton of good breakpoints. One additional stack of infantry will also put you in body shot range for any enemy that you can't tage. The boss damage difference is just an added bonus and the damage that twelve BoP shots does to a monster speaks for itself.