Questions about cheating/trainers

[Midnight Rider]

I know how the community feels about cheating, so before that bandwagon spouts off, NO I do NOT plan to use any trainer. I'm just asking if there is an official policy with using cheats with V2?
I understand the game uses EAC, but it seems there's also a trainer or two out there to circumvent this for solo play at least.
I don't have any intention on cheating, I'm legitimately just curious.
Is it okay to use a trainer solo, level up, and then re-enable EAC and play online without said trainer?

You can check my profile and see that I have like 1 achievement and barely any time logged so again, I'm just curious.

**Edit
If anyone wants to show a guy the ropes, feel free to add me. I'm pretty stoked to dive into this game, but I can't convince any of my friends to give it a shot.

[Ardariel]

FS are against cheaters. But mostly bans solved on EAC side.

Yet there are cheats that exploits EAC weaknesses and let you cheat in game. But again, if you get caught with it or EAC suddenly decide to fix this security holes - you pretty much screwed at this point.

Btw you cant launch game w/o EAC. so..

[no brains]

Originally posted by Ardariel:

FS are against cheaters. But mostly bans solved on EAC side.

Yet there are cheats that exploits EAC weaknesses and let you cheat in game. But again, if you get caught with it or EAC suddenly decide to fix this security holes - you pretty much screwed at this point.

Btw you cant launch game w/o EAC. so..

Cheaters in PvE p2p game XXXXDDDD

[Big Black Boss]

FatShark is absolutely against cheaters, it's the reason EAC is put in the game.

There is a "Modded Realm" that allows all mods, even cheat mods, to gather. Although it's also restricted, last I heard there was a Cosmetics Giver mod that was removed by the developers.
I have my doubts "Modded Realm" means no rules, EAC probably still functions there, if it spots you using a trainer you're doomed.

For your next videogame encounters, general thumb would be to know if the game is singleplayer or not (Vermintide 2 is purely multiplayer, solo-play is still multiplayer) and has an anti-cheat function or not.

[Regi]

Originally posted by Ardariel:

FS are against cheaters. But mostly bans solved on EAC side.

Yet there are cheats that exploits EAC weaknesses and let you cheat in game. But again, if you get caught with it or EAC suddenly decide to fix this security holes - you pretty much screwed at this point.

Btw you cant launch game w/o EAC. so..

You can launch the game with EAC disabled however and its actually quite easy if youve had any experience with digging into a folders data, the game will launch normally but it will most of the times crash at the end of the map giving you no xp , no loot and no completion. Occasionally loot saves but not always.

Source: My own boredom and curiosity on how EAC works in different games

[Midnight Rider]

Originally posted by wicked law:

Originally posted by Ardariel:

FS are against cheaters. But mostly bans solved on EAC side.

Yet there are cheats that exploits EAC weaknesses and let you cheat in game. But again, if you get caught with it or EAC suddenly decide to fix this security holes - you pretty much screwed at this point.

Btw you cant launch game w/o EAC. so..

Cheaters in PvE p2p game XXXXDDDD

Ppl being mad about ppl cheating in a PVE game XDXDXDXD

[Midnight Rider]

Originally posted by Boss Negro:

For your next videogame encounters, general thumb would be to know if the game is singleplayer or not (Vermintide 2 is purely multiplayer, solo-play is still multiplayer) and has an anti-cheat function or not.

I knew that the game was always online, solo or not. I guess I was just more curious as to what the difference between the realms was, modded or not and if progress could be carried between the two.

[Midnight Rider]

Originally posted by ☭Registered Sexual Offender:

Originally posted by Ardariel:

FS are against cheaters. But mostly bans solved on EAC side.

Yet there are cheats that exploits EAC weaknesses and let you cheat in game. But again, if you get caught with it or EAC suddenly decide to fix this security holes - you pretty much screwed at this point.

Btw you cant launch game w/o EAC. so..

You can launch the game with EAC disabled however and its actually quite easy if youve had any experience with digging into a folders data, the game will launch normally but it will most of the times crash at the end of the map giving you no xp , no loot and no completion. Occasionally loot saves but not always.

Source: My own boredom and curiosity on how EAC works in different games

Far Cry 5 says hi.
You simply rename a folder, maybe a few other things. So yeah, EAC is completely circumventable.

[Regi]

Originally posted by Gwynbleidd:

Originally posted by ☭Registered Sexual Offender:

You can launch the game with EAC disabled however and its actually quite easy if youve had any experience with digging into a folders data, the game will launch normally but it will most of the times crash at the end of the map giving you no xp , no loot and no completion. Occasionally loot saves but not always.

Source: My own boredom and curiosity on how EAC works in different games

Far Cry 5 says hi.
You simply rename a folder, maybe a few other things. So yeah, EAC is completely circumventable.

I still dont know how EAC is in business , there are much better ( maybe a bit more intrusive but still ) anticheats but atleast they do their job. Its much easier to just have someone at tech support resolve mishaps of the intrusive anti cheats than to sweep issues under a rug and call it done.
Atleast cheats arent that big of an issue in vt2.

[Midnight Rider]

Originally posted by ☭Registered Sexual Offender:

Originally posted by Gwynbleidd:

Far Cry 5 says hi.
You simply rename a folder, maybe a few other things. So yeah, EAC is completely circumventable.

I still dont know how EAC is in business , there are much better ( maybe a bit more intrusive but still ) anticheats but atleast they do their job. Its much easier to just have someone at tech support resolve mishaps of the intrusive anti cheats than to sweep issues under a rug and call it done.
Atleast cheats arent that big of an issue in vt2.

The main reason I asked initially is because sometimes it's just nice to mess around solo, or for testing purposes. I'd not risk catching a ban though, especially in a PVE game, ha. But yeah, EAC is certainly flawed.

[Ardariel]

Originally posted by ☭Registered Sexual Offender:

Originally posted by Ardariel:

FS are against cheaters. But mostly bans solved on EAC side.

Yet there are cheats that exploits EAC weaknesses and let you cheat in game. But again, if you get caught with it or EAC suddenly decide to fix this security holes - you pretty much screwed at this point.

Btw you cant launch game w/o EAC. so..

You can launch the game with EAC disabled however and its actually quite easy if youve had any experience with digging into a folders data, the game will launch normally but it will most of the times crash at the end of the map giving you no xp , no loot and no completion. Occasionally loot saves but not always.

Source: My own boredom and curiosity on how EAC works in different games

If you check processes you will see it still working. ANd if you try to block it anyhow you would be unable to launch game. At least i found no way for it, apart from direct exploits of EAC security, which is blatant cheating.

I suspec tyou talk about config file for launcher that indeed contain this string. Yet, as i said before, it would take no effect on a game. At least it was so in 1.1 (have not checked since then)

[Medojedova zhouba]

Originally posted by Boss Negro:

FatShark is absolutely against cheaters, it's the reason EAC is put in the game.

The biggest joke I´ve ever heard. :D If is FS absolutely against cheaters... why they are using so trash anti-cheat system? :D If you spend few minutes on the websites you´ll see how many trainers and cheats are possible when you want cheat in EAC secured games. EAC is trash. I don´t know why FS can´t use VAC system. Its a trash too, but still better than this pure comedy of anti-cheat systems.

[SSJPrince]

Originally posted by Medojedova zhouba:

Originally posted by Boss Negro:

FatShark is absolutely against cheaters, it's the reason EAC is put in the game.

The biggest joke I´ve ever heard. :D If is FS absolutely against cheaters... why they are using so trash anti-cheat system? :D If you spend few minutes on the websites you´ll see how many trainers and cheats are possible when you want cheat in EAC secured games. EAC is trash. I don´t know why FS can´t use VAC system. Its a trash too, but still better than this pure comedy of anti-cheat systems.

Bad or not people still get banned for cheating somewhere or another, if not then more matches would be full of people with God Mode or some ridiculous increase in attack/movement speed. Which is the main reason something like that could be annoying in the first place despite the game being PvE

[no brains]

Originally posted by Medojedova zhouba:

Originally posted by Boss Negro:

FatShark is absolutely against cheaters, it's the reason EAC is put in the game.

The biggest joke I´ve ever heard. :D If is FS absolutely against cheaters... why they are using so trash anti-cheat system? :D If you spend few minutes on the websites you´ll see how many trainers and cheats are possible when you want cheat in EAC secured games. EAC is trash. I don´t know why FS can´t use VAC system. Its a trash too, but still better than this pure comedy of anti-cheat systems.

Every anti-cheat is trash, if you want people to stop cheating, make more game aspects serverside (which is impossible in p2p games as they have no dedicated servers)

[Medojedova zhouba]

Originally posted by Ashur provides:

Originally posted by Medojedova zhouba:

The biggest joke I´ve ever heard. :D If is FS absolutely against cheaters... why they are using so trash anti-cheat system? :D If you spend few minutes on the websites you´ll see how many trainers and cheats are possible when you want cheat in EAC secured games. EAC is trash. I don´t know why FS can´t use VAC system. Its a trash too, but still better than this pure comedy of anti-cheat systems.

Bad or not people still get banned for cheating somewhere or another, if not then more matches would be full of people with God Mode or some ridiculous increase in attack/movement speed. Which is the main reason something like that could be annoying in the first place despite the game being PvE

Ok. How many cheaters are banned from EAC? Thats a very low numbers. I sent lot of cheating sites to developers of EAC and they did nothing. On these sites they are laughing to their face how stupid a and Easy-To Break-Anti-Cheat system it is and they did nothing. They didn´t even single change. These sites are still selling their cheats for EAC "secured" games. So there is not reason to have this trash in this game. VAC is better solution. But hey.... its more money for devs so why they should care, huh?

[Hallas von Wolffe]

Originally posted by wicked law:

Originally posted by Ardariel:

FS are against cheaters. But mostly bans solved on EAC side.

Yet there are cheats that exploits EAC weaknesses and let you cheat in game. But again, if you get caught with it or EAC suddenly decide to fix this security holes - you pretty much screwed at this point.

Btw you cant launch game w/o EAC. so..

Cheaters in PvE p2p game XXXXDDDD

Happens all the time in coop games, and it was pevalent with Verm 1 and the early days of Verm 2. Then a bunch of bans went out for Verm 2 after a couple updates and the cheaters started acting like FS owed them something because they could no longer use a product they paid for. Even if FS gave a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to reinstate you, they'd just refer you to EAC to start a support ticket. And from what can be gathered from others' experiences, EAC either doesn't respond or is unlikely to unban you. As others have stated, it does not completely prevent cheating or exploiting. There are mods to do all kinds of funky things in the modded, realm, if you genuinely want to mess around on your own or with friends, instead of being a d-bag and ruining the fun for everyone else.