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UNLUCKY STAR Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:16am
Battlewizard and 100% block cost reduction
Is that intended? i mean nothing can break my guard (aside from pushes) on legend, even when getting attacked from behind.

EDIT: Using 30% block cost reduction on both melee weapon and necklace while also using the career trait for additional 40% block cost reduction.
Last edited by UNLUCKY STAR; Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:18am
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Ardariel Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:18am 
yes it is. You can achieve it on some other carers too, and more reliably btw.
UNLUCKY STAR Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:22am 
Makes elites and crowds a utter joke, christ and i thought IB and pyro were poorly balanced
Bones Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by COLONEL FEUERBUSCH:
Makes elites and crowds a utter joke, christ and i thought IB and pyro were poorly balanced
Until you take a single bit of FF or a shove and three overheads come down on you. It's neat but it's hard to look at it as anything but a gimmick.
Ardariel Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by Bones:
Originally posted by COLONEL FEUERBUSCH:
Makes elites and crowds a utter joke, christ and i thought IB and pyro were poorly balanced
Until you take a single bit of FF or a shove and three overheads come down on you. It's neat but it's hard to look at it as anything but a gimmick.

You need to learn how to move indeed. But on other careers you dont afraid FF.

Also, m8, pyro can have 100% BCR. yeah, it IS poorly balanced career.
Solus Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by Ardariel:
yes it is. You can achieve it on some other carers too, and more reliably btw.
For example?
Ardariel Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Solus:
Originally posted by Ardariel:
yes it is. You can achieve it on some other carers too, and more reliably btw.
For example?

pyro, IB, FK, slayer, UC.

Btw WHC to some extent.
Last edited by Ardariel; Sep 19, 2018 @ 11:59am
Cortex Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:19pm 
How do you get 100% on slayer?
Ardariel Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by Cortex Σ:
How do you get 100% on slayer?

Double parry and spam Q. Most OP BCR XD.
Gorwe Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Ardariel:
Originally posted by Cortex Σ:
How do you get 100% on slayer?

Double parry and spam Q. Most OP BCR XD.

Ah Parry. Can't wait for Talent / Trait rework tbh. This side of the game is so janky it's unbelievable. No, I take that back. Sliding enemies and silent patrols are janky. This is borderline unfinished.
Pungent Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by Bones:
Until you take...a shove

They already fixed Tranquility (and Gromril Armour) being tripped by pushes.
Ardariel Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Pungent:
Originally posted by Bones:
Until you take...a shove

They already fixed Tranquility (and Gromril Armour) being tripped by pushes.

He talks about fact, that when you got shoved - you dont block. SO you get killed by first overhead or by any attack combo, caus eyou cant do ♥♥♥♥ while you got shoved.
Last edited by Ardariel; Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:34pm
What The Sigmar? Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Ardariel:
Originally posted by Bones:
Until you take a single bit of FF or a shove and three overheads come down on you. It's neat but it's hard to look at it as anything but a gimmick.

You need to learn how to move indeed. But on other careers you dont afraid FF.

Also, m8, pyro can have 100% BCR. yeah, it IS poorly balanced career.
Right, but the thing about 100% block cost reduction is that you can’t be attacking or dealing any damage as the one who’s just holding up their block indefinitely. Sure you can kite until you exhaust all the special spawns and manipulate ledges to get some damage in, but as a BW you can’t be using your main source of damage (staves) and as pyro you suffer high overcharge slowdown.

It really is just a gimmick imo. It will rarely be useful unless you’re just using BW as a pseudo-ironbreaker who just steals aggro instead of clearing enemies.
Originally posted by Ardariel:
Originally posted by Pungent:

They already fixed Tranquility (and Gromril Armour) being tripped by pushes.

He talks about fact, that when you got shoved - you dont block. SO you get killed by first overhead or by any attack combo, caus eyou cant do ♥♥♥♥ while you got shoved.
Exactly, it’s the wombo-combo of your guard being broken then you taking a sh*t ton of damage that’ll get you killed in that scenario.
Last edited by What The Sigmar?; Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:42pm
Ardariel Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by •҉Rosy:
Originally posted by Ardariel:

You need to learn how to move indeed. But on other careers you dont afraid FF.

Also, m8, pyro can have 100% BCR. yeah, it IS poorly balanced career.
Right, but the thing about 100% block cost reduction is that you can’t be attacking or dealing any damage as the one who’s just holding up their block indefinitely. Sure you can kite until you exhaust all the special spawns and manipulate ledges to get some damage in, but as a BW you can’t be using your main source of damage (staves) and as pyro you suffer high overcharge slowdown.

It really is just a gimmick imo. It will rarely be useful unless you’re just using BW as a pseudo-ironbreaker who just steals aggro instead of clearing enemies.
Originally posted by Ardariel:

He talks about fact, that when you got shoved - you dont block. SO you get killed by first overhead or by any attack combo, caus eyou cant do ♥♥♥♥ while you got shoved.
Exactly, it’s the wombo-combo of your guard being broken then you taking a sh*t ton of damage that’ll get you killed in that scenario.

Try melee-oriented pyro. Then you have 90% BCR all the time and keep slaying stuff. And if ♥♥♥♥ hits the fan all it takes to have 10% BCR is one extra spell.

It is all about manipulating your heat indeed. But pyro IS broken. SHe can be unkillable yet annihilating machine.
It's a fun gimmick build that doesn't really cost you anything as you can still function fine with any of the staves, but it's hardly game-breaking.
What The Sigmar? Sep 19, 2018 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by Ardariel:
Originally posted by •҉Rosy:

Try melee-oriented pyro. Then you have 90% BCR all the time and keep slaying stuff. And if ♥♥♥♥ hits the fan all it takes to have 10% BCR is one extra spell.

It is all about manipulating your heat indeed. But pyro IS broken. SHe can be unkillable yet annihilating machine.
Pyro is definitely OP. Would never argue with that. I just think that a 100% BCR build is more gimmick than god-tier. But if you can make it work then more power to you.
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