Executioner sword is godly on Mercenary

[Quadsword]

Paced strikes + swift slaying + Mercenary's increased crit chance + executioner sword's headshot bonus + morale boost = A sea of dismembered skaven and northlanders.

I didn't think much of the executioner sword when I used it on Foot Knight, but holy crap does it synergize well with Mercenary. I'm torn between this or the hammer as my favorite melee weapons to use as Kruber.

[Pungent]

No ♥♥♥♥.

Extra speed + cleave makes any weapon work well.

[Bdeslaurs]

Executionner attack pattern alone makes it a better sword than the greatsword but then you can master the heavy attack and become a damage dealer. (Not to the point of the halbert of course because balance)

[Watermelons]

Originally posted by Bdeslaurs:

Executionner attack pattern alone makes it a better sword than the greatsword but then you can master the heavy attack and become a damage dealer. (Not to the point of the halbert of course because balance)

Executioner still hurts bosses much faster, especially aiming for headshots. Halberd is a much more steady and stable DPS though.

[Bob]

Completely outclasses GS in waveclear, that is for sure. Only real drawback with it compared to a GS is that it slows you down a bit more and has a much worse shove attack.

[Maximum997]

I use Executor on FK. Halberd is still better in all cases, but Ex Sword just looks badass and it is very enjoyable to cut the heads left and right and oneshot stromvermins.

Originally posted by Bob:

Completely outclasses GS in waveclear, that is for sure. Only real drawback with it compared to a GS is that it slows you down a bit more and has a much worse shove attack.

GS is so bad against armor.3 charged headshots to kill a SV with +20% armor\skaven.

[Bob]

Originally posted by maximum997:

I use Executor on FK. Halberd is still better in all cases, but Ex Sword just looks badass and it is very enjoyable to cut the heads left and right and oneshot stromvermins.

Originally posted by Bob:

Completely outclasses GS in waveclear, that is for sure. Only real drawback with it compared to a GS is that it slows you down a bit more and has a much worse shove attack.

GS is so bad against armor.3 charged headshots to kill a SV with +20% armor\skaven.

Yea.. really wish the GS was better, but I am so use to this crap by now. They let it remain garbage for 95% of V1, but I just enjoyed the playstyle too much to stop using it.

The only thing holding it together right now is the awesome shove attack it has when facing a horde. With swift slaying, crit build, and chaos/infantry, you can handle any horde yourself quite easily and even be able to kill maulers with little issue (still takes a few charged attacks to body). But as soon as SV/CW's show up, you hit like a wet noodle... and even basic shield enemies completely shut GS down to the point of it feeling completely unintended. Oh well I guess.

[Crymic]

I really don't care for the halberd tunnel vision attack pattern. Leaves you way to open to mobs coming from sides. I personally stick to 2h hammer for cleave and headshot. I may give the executioner sword a try.

[Cacomistle]

Originally posted by Bob:

Originally posted by maximum997:

I use Executor on FK. Halberd is still better in all cases, but Ex Sword just looks badass and it is very enjoyable to cut the heads left and right and oneshot stromvermins.

GS is so bad against armor.3 charged headshots to kill a SV with +20% armor\skaven.

Yea.. really wish the GS was better, but I am so use to this crap by now. They let it remain garbage for 95% of V1, but I just enjoyed the playstyle too much to stop using it.

The only thing holding it together right now is the awesome shove attack it has when facing a horde. With swift slaying, crit build, and chaos/infantry, you can handle any horde yourself quite easily and even be able to kill maulers with little issue (still takes a few charged attacks to body). But as soon as SV/CW's show up, you hit like a wet noodle... and even basic shield enemies completely shut GS down to the point of it feeling completely unintended. Oh well I guess.

Merc kruber makes it not as bad. It does decent armor damage (decent not good) on crits. And merc crits a lot. Plus he can get significant power bonuses, which allows him to deal decent damage despite the weapon not having great damage. Which for something like exec sword just overkills stormvermin. Ofc why not just use halberd?

[Bob]

Originally posted by Boneripper:

Originally posted by Bob:

Yea.. really wish the GS was better, but I am so use to this crap by now. They let it remain garbage for 95% of V1, but I just enjoyed the playstyle too much to stop using it.

The only thing holding it together right now is the awesome shove attack it has when facing a horde. With swift slaying, crit build, and chaos/infantry, you can handle any horde yourself quite easily and even be able to kill maulers with little issue (still takes a few charged attacks to body). But as soon as SV/CW's show up, you hit like a wet noodle... and even basic shield enemies completely shut GS down to the point of it feeling completely unintended. Oh well I guess.

Merc kruber makes it not as bad. It does decent armor damage (decent not good) on crits. And merc crits a lot. Plus he can get significant power bonuses, which allows him to deal decent damage despite the weapon not having great damage. Which for something like exec sword just overkills stormvermin. Ofc why not just use halberd?

Well, the main thing I play is merc. Huntsman/FK both do not have the damage to let you handle hordes 'well' with a GS, so I agree there. The only way you can reliably deal with maulers quickly is if you have your damage buffs running with multiple enemies around to be hit, otherwise it is still pretty bad.

1h sword has better pen than the 2h thanks to the double charge hit into light 3rd hit in the combo. I can kill SV/CW's much faster with his 1h than I can with spamming charged headshots with GS, and I run a full crit build with 20% chaos and 10% infantry (+armor doesn't make any difference at all with a breaking point as far as I could tell with merc/GS; maybe 1 less hit on CW if you get lucky with crits). Not sure I'd label its armor pen as even 'ok' tbh.

The thing is, as much as I prefer playing around with GS, especially its shove attack during ambushes/hordes.... the ES clears waves a whole lot faster and safer without the need to shove nearly as much. GS seems to be designed to allow you to lone wolf it a bit more (which in the vast majority of cases is going to be a bad choice anyway), where as ES can completely murder everything in front of the group if they are there holding a choke. Main reason for this isn't even the base damage of the swing, but rather the angle of said swing. It is difficult to get more than a couple headshots on GS swings, but you can lop the heads off of 6+ per swing quite easily with ES. This makes dealing with trash kind of braindead easy so long as your team is around.

With all of that said... most pugs in legend absolutely do not stick together during hordes. To make it worse, most people freak out during boss+horde and end up leaving 1 person to deal with the horde alone while the other 3 clean up scraps around the boss and continue to dps the boss. That is a situation where ES completely sucks; you are left alone to hold off 30+ inc enemies that will surround you, and you don't have the mobility to kite them very well and end up losing half or more of your HP before you 'might' start surviving off of temp hp. This is where GS actually does have an advantage. You can start with a charged attack to chunk the front line of the horde and then shove attack a couple times while dodging; you can then decide to swing a couple light hits in or another charged hit, and then proceed to shove attack again.

Either way, despite GS being able to have a bit more carry potential in regards to solo horde killing; I personally don't feel it holds a candle to ES being able to butcher CW's and SV, since those tend to screw over pugs more often than not when mixed in an inc horde/ambush/special spawn. Elite killing is just too valuable to pass up when you have no idea how skilled your team will be.

[Cacomistle]

Originally posted by Bob:

Originally posted by Boneripper:

Merc kruber makes it not as bad. It does decent armor damage (decent not good) on crits. And merc crits a lot. Plus he can get significant power bonuses, which allows him to deal decent damage despite the weapon not having great damage. Which for something like exec sword just overkills stormvermin. Ofc why not just use halberd?

Well, the main thing I play is merc. Huntsman/FK both do not have the damage to let you handle hordes 'well' with a GS, so I agree there. The only way you can reliably deal with maulers quickly is if you have your damage buffs running with multiple enemies around to be hit, otherwise it is still pretty bad.

1h sword has better pen than the 2h thanks to the double charge hit into light 3rd hit in the combo. I can kill SV/CW's much faster with his 1h than I can with spamming charged headshots with GS, and I run a full crit build with 20% chaos and 10% infantry (+armor doesn't make any difference at all with a breaking point as far as I could tell with merc/GS; maybe 1 less hit on CW if you get lucky with crits). Not sure I'd label its armor pen as even 'ok' tbh.

The thing is, as much as I prefer playing around with GS, especially its shove attack during ambushes/hordes.... the ES clears waves a whole lot faster and safer without the need to shove nearly as much. GS seems to be designed to allow you to lone wolf it a bit more (which in the vast majority of cases is going to be a bad choice anyway), where as ES can completely murder everything in front of the group if they are there holding a choke. Main reason for this isn't even the base damage of the swing, but rather the angle of said swing. It is difficult to get more than a couple headshots on GS swings, but you can lop the heads off of 6+ per swing quite easily with ES. This makes dealing with trash kind of braindead easy so long as your team is around.

With all of that said... most pugs in legend absolutely do not stick together during hordes. To make it worse, most people freak out during boss+horde and end up leaving 1 person to deal with the horde alone while the other 3 clean up scraps around the boss and continue to dps the boss. That is a situation where ES completely sucks; you are left alone to hold off 30+ inc enemies that will surround you, and you don't have the mobility to kite them very well and end up losing half or more of your HP before you 'might' start surviving off of temp hp. This is where GS actually does have an advantage. You can start with a charged attack to chunk the front line of the horde and then shove attack a couple times while dodging; you can then decide to swing a couple light hits in or another charged hit, and then proceed to shove attack again.

Either way, despite GS being able to have a bit more carry potential in regards to solo horde killing; I personally don't feel it holds a candle to ES being able to butcher CW's and SV, since those tend to screw over pugs more often than not when mixed in an inc horde/ambush/special spawn. Elite killing is just too valuable to pass up when you have no idea how skilled your team will be.

Yeah I tried greatsword on him before, and it felt ok. And then I tried 1h sword and it feels so much better. It massacres hordes way harder, although ofc its armor damage is still bad so I think halberd is a better option.

I don't see any niche greatsword fills, but at least its useable.

[󠀡]

why would you use executionermemersword when you can use the halberd that does enough damage to one shot fanatics and that more reliably than the sword? also its much faster and stronger against armor too

[Bdeslaurs]

Originally posted by ᅚ:

why would you use executionermemersword when you can use the halberd that does enough damage to one shot fanatics and that more reliably than the sword? also its much faster and stronger against armor too

Meme because playing the same weapon all the time is boring.

[Maximum997]

Originally posted by ᅚ:

why would you use executionermemersword when you can use the halberd that does enough damage to one shot fanatics and that more reliably than the sword? also its much faster and stronger against armor too

I know that halberd is better in any situation.
I just love to cut heads with es. And es looks awesome.