Why glaive over spear on the elf ?

[Varlak (David)]

The spear just seems bether to me but I guess that I have missed something about that weapon seems its the most popular for any elf class beside handmaiden.

I get the second hit on charged attack make ubber damage if you miss the first hit on purpose to make 1 extra hit during shade ult but I doubt tis the only reason why sicne so many waystalker use the glaive.

[Mister Lister the Sister Fister]

glaive was a decent choice when it didnt have animation cancel on its normal attacks. now it does so its a superior choice because its good horde clear and a full charge up attack 1 shots elites and gets close to 1 shotting chaos warriors

[Prydain]

Its a good pick but I'd stick with whatever your most comfortable using. Spear is still really good and for Glaive all you need is swift slaying on it and it can clear hordes just as well.

[MGTopgun]

Because hordes are not a problem but elites.

[Googalabon]

Originally posted by Mazter:

Because hordes are not a problem but elites.

Not saying the glaive is not good against Elites. But after the dagger buff 2 Armor penetration, you can much more easily reach a One-Shot breakpoint with storm vermin.

[Bones]

Mostly the AP. WS can deal with trash so easily using swift bow or hagbane that they just need a melee weapon to support the ranged (not the other way around like many careers).

[Cheb]

Spearmaiden any day.

[knife-ears for nurgle]

Originally posted by Mazter:

Because hordes are not a problem but elites.

then take daggers.. best single target dmg in game.

[Bob]

Unless they lower the cleave, glaive will remain the top choice (overall). Pretty much every weapon on elf is good now, but no other melee weapon holds a candle to glaive due to the mix of it easily dealing with all elites safely and quickly, having 'ok' waveclear for whatever reason, and being able to dish out consistent boss damage.

Not to mention you still have good movement speed while attacking with it, which is what truly makes the thing so good compared to other 2h weapons in the game.

With that said, spear on handmaiden is a good option thanks to being able to spam the shove attack non stop.

[MGTopgun]

Originally posted by rocket surgery:

Originally posted by Mazter:

Because hordes are not a problem but elites.

then take daggers.. best single target dmg in game.

I always take daggers.

[pandu]

Dagger Shade.

[Layzan]

Originally posted by Bob:

With that said, spear on handmaiden is a good option thanks to being able to spam the shove attack non stop.

This is why I stick with spear on HM. It's not just non stop, it's almost 360 around her also helping alot when your in the middle of a fight trying to revive a player. The extra speed and range is so good too when your sailing into hordes or taking out a hook rat for example.

As nice as the glave is, to get the most out of swift slaying, your have to max crit, and I went the other way and took more stam, +5 movement on my trinket which then opened up my options to take extra stam regen or dodge without being slowed down.

The skill which adds +15% power, and having 10% extra dam vs infantry means I wipe the floor with hordes, gaining massive temp health, smashing them about all over the place with my abilities, push, and hits.

With glave, It's just too slow, or leaves too little stam. I found I took more hits too overal with hordes. If I'm with a party, they often take care of SV, even I can or at least mess with them for ages. If I'm alone, I just bypass them and leave them scratching their heads as to where I've gone. Or worse, poison the lot of them with my bow.

[Varlak (David)]

Originally posted by SneakyPanda:

Dagger Shade.

Pretty much what I do usualy. The DMG on Boss and any armored target is just too good too pass. its just bad agaisnt horde.

[Filthy Casual]

Originally posted by Varlak:

The spear just seems bether to me but I guess that I have missed something about that weapon seems its the most popular for any elf class beside handmaiden.

I get the second hit on charged attack make ubber damage if you miss the first hit on purpose to make 1 extra hit during shade ult but I doubt tis the only reason why sicne so many waystalker use the glaive.

Because Spear is worthless vs Armor.

[Xarko]

Originally posted by Burke:

Originally posted by Tengri:

Because Spear is worthless vs Armor.

Which is hilarious because in the lore Asrai spears had armor piercing.

Hm

[swpz]

Spear destroys hordes much better than glaive but the utter lack of armor penetration means that a single SV or above in that horde can ruin your day.

Personally I find spear to be best on WS; her F will deal with anything but a CW in short order (I've actually had a case where I dropped 90% of an entire SV patrol with strength potion + F).

Shade, it's daggers or dagger and sword; your job is to delete bosses and CW; equipping anything else after the buffs seems silly. Daggers HS modifier is kind of funny. No weapon allows you to gib a special before they grab you but daggers does - charging a packrat in melee is rather entertaining so long as you're using daggers. With any other weapon you will be grabbed.

Handmaiden, no comment; don't play her.