Warhammer: Vermintide 2

Warhammer: Vermintide 2

Parry possibly useless?
I feel really bad about the Parry trait on weapons, because I'm having a hard time already not getting hit through blocks because the game considers some earlier point on the host side whether I was hit or not. I basically have to block very early and be very cautious with my attacks because otherwise I take damage anyway.
So is this trait actually being used? is everyone who uses it always host? I always let my friend host (me being a bit better at action games, so not also lag ontop of friend's lower skill), but we both have pretty good connections and fast pcs (for example both under 30ms ping on overwatch).
Eredetileg közzétette: Dioxido:
The issue as you said is not the trait, it's the cero lag mitigation the game has on hit detection.
Being host you can block on the end of the wind up on SV overheads.
Being a peer you g2 block in the same frame the wind up starts to get parry.
It feels wrong to pull block up before ther's a real damage threat but ther's no other counter, going for headshots that 1 kill almost always ends with hit-trade.
This mod helps a bit to check weapons you're not used to parry with:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1459917022&searchtext=
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In the beginning I felt like parry could be a good thing, especially when facing SV and CW. When they hit you normally with an overhead your stamina breaks, but with parry your fine. But that trait is very circumstantial, you are much better of with Swift-slaying or the one that gives ult reg on crit.
Parry shold be passive for all weapons. It is good and fun thing. But another traits are far better.
Teddy (Kitiltva) 2018. szept. 5., 0:23 
Halvars eredeti hozzászólása:
In the beginning I felt like parry could be a good thing, especially when facing SV and CW. When they hit you normally with an overhead your stamina breaks, but with parry your fine. But that trait is very circumstantial, you are much better of with Swift-slaying or the one that gives ult reg on crit.


maximum997 eredeti hozzászólása:
Parry shold be passive for all weapons. It is good and fun thing. But another traits are far better.

Yeah, it feelsl ike Parry should be some sort of 2nd trait or a talent choice. It is good, but Swift Slaying or Resourceful Combatant are better in most circumstances, 'cause it is usually - not always - better to kill fast than to be able to defend. Then again, maybe I'm talking nonsense.

Hate you all.
Ardariel eredeti hozzászólása:
Note that in last patch they nerfed parry. It have somewhat twice or maybe even 3 times less time window to parry now.
Damn, really? I missed that note.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Mobaster; 2018. szept. 5., 1:48
Xarpus eredeti hozzászólása:
Ghuldarkar eredeti hozzászólása:
I basically have to block very early and be very cautious with my attacks because otherwise I take damage anyway.
This is the Problem and a 30ping is shall be okay for this...
The Joke is to Block the Attack when the Enemy attack is in Action! When he Try to hit!
The Graphic effective is the a bit different, shakes more this "Parry".
VS ChaosWarrior you can Test better as VS "Trash"...
Your Eye will be faster and faster if you Play more and HART!
One Second will be long in Game! so you see more and more the Enemy Attacks!
You see it if the Enemy, Load the Attack, is the Attack Rly or he is in Hit! and you have to block in Enemy Hit Time!. Maybe good for Slayer Play! :)

I never Test it, is rly BugFree this Trait.. i hope.

Was this a google translate?
MofineBovine eredeti hozzászólása:
the timing for parry is very generous. You barely have to time your blocks.

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Mobaster eredeti hozzászólása:
Ardariel eredeti hozzászólása:
Note that in last patch they nerfed parry. It have somewhat twice or maybe even 3 times less time window to parry now.
Damn, really? I missed that note.

It was not in notes. Like a lot of other changes. But plenty of parry users noticed this and with parry indicator mod it was easy to check. It does not make parry worse or anything, just make you time it better, it still pretty wide window, like second or slightly less, just not as ridiculously wide as it was before.
Parry is one of the best traits, been using it for ever and you can literally tank for ever without dying if you git gud.
THREAD ABOUT LITERALLY BEST MELEE TRAIT THAT IS SO GOOD THAT IT BREAKS MELEE

telopots eredeti hozzászólása:
parry is completely useless
Ghuldarkar eredeti hozzászólása:
I feel really bad about the Parry
Myrmidon eredeti hozzászólása:
It's a pretty redundant filler trait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=H3elwDp1tC0

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1. SEE PARRY TIMING WITH SANCTIONED MOD.
2. DISCOVER THE BEAUTY OF PARRY TRIGGERING ANYTIME YOU START BLOCKING (after a push, push-stab, guardbreak)
3. REVEL IN FREAKIN KNOWLEDGE THAT WITH OTHER DEFENSIVE TRAITS YOUR BLOCK IS SO GOOD THAT YOU CAN TANK LITERALLY ANYTHING.
4. CLIMAX, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS SO MANY PARRY PROCS THAT YOU CAN IGNORE OR AVOID COMPLETELY >10 GUARD CRUSHES AGAINST FULL CHAOS PATROL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfITkhNuJFY
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Nohead; 2018. szept. 5., 7:28
You just witnessed diifference between sane dialog and madlips.
The best meele traits is Resourceful Combatant imo. Then there is Parry and after that Opportunist.
Mobaster eredeti hozzászólása:
The best meele traits is Resourceful Combatant imo. Then there is Parry and after that Opportunist.

Opportunist does not work. At all.
Ardariel eredeti hozzászólása:
Mobaster eredeti hozzászólása:
The best meele traits is Resourceful Combatant imo. Then there is Parry and after that Opportunist.

Opportunist does not work. At all.
I mean if they all worked as intended. Resourceful Combatant too doesn't reduce by 2% but by 2s.
Ardariel eredeti hozzászólása:
You just witnessed diifference between sane dialog and madlips.
Go BAWW somwhere else. You like second coming of Lunathex but boring and more no-lify.
Nohead eredeti hozzászólása:
Ardariel eredeti hozzászólása:
You just witnessed diifference between sane dialog and madlips.
Go BAWW somwhere else. You like second coming of Lunathex but boring and more no-lify.
He was not wrong tho.
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