Arming Sword vs Sword & Shield

[Reizz of the Gal Vorbak ✳]

Any reason to use just the sword instead of the shield & sword combo?

[tanksin]

i think it does more dmg...buuut if you were going for dps execute sword is the better option

[morn]

Originally posted by Reizz:

Any reason to use just the sword instead of the shield & sword combo?

Any reason to use the shield & sword instead of the sword? Sword faster, do more damage and can deal with armored. Have a nice stagger with charged and can group up horde (by using only first charged) instead spreading it. Maybe with a good team low damage of shield&sword is not an issue, but you just can't deal with armored, and if you can't I have no idea why shield may be needed.

[Reizz of the Gal Vorbak ✳]

Originally posted by ezol:

Originally posted by Reizz:

Any reason to use just the sword instead of the shield & sword combo?

Any reason to use the shield & sword instead of the sword? Sword faster, do more damage and can deal with armored. Have a nice stagger with charged and can group up horde (by using only first charged) instead spreading it. Maybe with a good team low damage of shield&sword is not an issue, but you just can't deal with armored, and if you can't I have no idea why shield may be needed.

The arming sword for Kruber does less damage than the sword&shield

[Arkady]

Always go for sword+shield, why? More blocking chances to keep you alive, 2 ways to knockback and you can deal with armored with your power attack

[Elchuchu]

better crowd control with the regular sword. big sweeps and the overhead strike does good damage to armor dudes.

[morn]

Originally posted by Reizz:

Originally posted by ezol:

Any reason to use the shield & sword instead of the sword? Sword faster, do more damage and can deal with armored. Have a nice stagger with charged and can group up horde (by using only first charged) instead spreading it. Maybe with a good team low damage of shield&sword is not an issue, but you just can't deal with armored, and if you can't I have no idea why shield may be needed.

The arming sword for Kruber does less damage than the sword&shield

During last closed beta I tested sword+shield and can't deal with third patrol (veteran solo with bots), bc run out of ammo. Troll fall to regenerate about 5 times, my fingers tired when I kill him at last. Yes, you can stagger and push with charged attack, but can't even kill rat slave with one strike, in fact you just increase number of enemies around without killing it. Does it really more damage, even if basic attack do more (haven't tested this)? Stamina is not issue with +stamina on talents and trinkets and I don't need more then 4 shields for any kind of enemies, push&block angle not so important to sacrifice so many.

Originally posted by KKArkady:

Always go for sword+shield, why? More blocking chances to keep you alive, 2 ways to knockback and you can deal with armored with your power attack

If nothing changed - you can't, not with countable hits, you forced to strike head with basic attacks over and over again, like a 3-8 hits for specials, infinite for chaos warrior. Charged attacks not even kill slave, how you can kill stormvermin?

[765]

Originally posted by tanksin:

i think it does more dmg...buuut if you were going for dps execute sword is the better option

Actually even the Mercenary Great Sword is nice DPS.
Just when it comes to taking down armored enemies you will be on it for a while.

[Ostrava of Boletaria]

Unless it was changed from vermentide 1, 1h sword is very mobile (dodges much further and gives you higher dodge count) and has much higher headshot multipliers than the sword & shield, making it a finesse weapon.

With that being said I'd recommend sword & shield for now if you were to choose ass the dense chaos hordes makes high control an invaluable asset.

[Reizz of the Gal Vorbak ✳]

Originally posted by ezol:

Originally posted by Reizz:

The arming sword for Kruber does less damage than the sword&shield

During last closed beta I tested sword+shield and can't deal with third patrol (veteran solo with bots), bc run out of ammo. Troll fall to regenerate about 5 times, my fingers tired when I kill him at last. Yes, you can stagger and push with charged attack, but can't even kill rat slave with one strike, in fact you just increase number of enemies around without killing it. Does it really more damage, even if basic attack do more (haven't tested this)? Stamina is not issue with +stamina on talents and trinkets and I don't need more then 4 shields for any kind of enemies, push&block angle not so important to sacrifice so many.

Originally posted by KKArkady:

Always go for sword+shield, why? More blocking chances to keep you alive, 2 ways to knockback and you can deal with armored with your power attack

If nothing changed - you can't, not with countable hits, you forced to strike head with basic attacks over and over again, like a 3-8 hits for specials, infinite for chaos warrior. Charged attacks not even kill slave, how you can kill stormvermin?

Arming sword 475 dmg basic attack, sword & shield 500 dmg. Tested it earlier today but don't remember the crit dmg though

[morn]

Originally posted by Reizz:

Originally posted by ezol:

During last closed beta I tested sword+shield and can't deal with third patrol (veteran solo with bots), bc run out of ammo. Troll fall to regenerate about 5 times, my fingers tired when I kill him at last. Yes, you can stagger and push with charged attack, but can't even kill rat slave with one strike, in fact you just increase number of enemies around without killing it. Does it really more damage, even if basic attack do more (haven't tested this)? Stamina is not issue with +stamina on talents and trinkets and I don't need more then 4 shields for any kind of enemies, push&block angle not so important to sacrifice so many.


If nothing changed - you can't, not with countable hits, you forced to strike head with basic attacks over and over again, like a 3-8 hits for specials, infinite for chaos warrior. Charged attacks not even kill slave, how you can kill stormvermin?

Arming sword 475 dmg basic attack, sword & shield 500 dmg. Tested it earlier today but don't remember the crit dmg though

Does it?
Basic combo / charged, vs armored basic / charged
375-375-650 / 550-550, 0-0-500 / 100-100
375-375-650 / ?-700-625 0-0-500 / ?-175-(don't check this)

[gachi is manly]

Arming Sword is quite quick as far as crowd control weapons for Kruber go. The charged sweeps function much better for horde control than the sword and shield's combos.