Ranalds gift and Loot Dice

[UnknownDjinn]

They are RNG. And it's dumb...
We had vet game 3 tomes 2 grims 1 Dice and Ranalds with quickplay.

Map=50%
Quickplay=50%
Tome=50%
Grimoire=75%
Dice=25%
Ranalds can be less than 1/1000th of your bar or it could be 2 full bars.

But no matter what you do there is no way to control it.

What would be a good replacement is if Ranalds gave you a bonus for completing the mission with everyone alive. A Tier 2 bonus if no one died. A Tier 3 bonus if no one went down. Where each loot die counts as a single Tier towards the reward. This way you can remove the RNG of never getting any use out of Ranalds and Dice. And making them useful.

Edit: Apparently this thread got necro'd. It was dead two weeks ago. Leave it dead.

[Slurs! In the Discord]

Originally posted by UnknownDjinn:

So why is it if you're the lowest performing member you seem to always get emporers but if you're the top you get literally♥♥♥♥♥♥on?

RNG, genius.

Why do you care so much about what others are getting in a PvE coop game anyways.

[Nesneter]

Because it's a team game and if you were the highest score that doesn't mean much. It's about teamwork, you can't beat the game just based on your score, someone has to be at the "top" always though. They kept the RNG in a little bit from the first game, which seems more than fine compared to what it was.

[★ ⛟ RyanDIngusxGOD ඞ❟❛❟⭕⃤✿ 🆆𝓱𝓪ςк]

noob here what is ranalds gift and is it only active during beta?

[UnknownDjinn]

Originally posted by 「Ryan is DJ Officer TJ Hooker:

noob here what is ranalds gift and is it only active during beta?

When you complete a mission to increase the value of your chest you get
Mission Complete - Completing mission
Quick play - If you chose quick play
Tomes - How many tomes you collected
Grimoires - How many grimoires you collected
Loot Dice - This is irrelevant since even if you collect 2 it gives you 0 bonus. But it's suppose to be RNG
Ranald's Gift - This is irrelevant since even no matter what you do it gives 0 bonus. But it's suppose to be RNG

Ranalds gift is an "RNG(Ha)" bonus to your chest quality.

[Ulf]

how about when you're friend get a emperor coffer and you just a general or the otherway ?

[Renoco]

Seems OP didn't play the first game lmao. Go look at the rng from having all tomes/grims and some loot dice. Half the time you just got some ♥♥♥♥ item. And in the first game you only got one item from completing a map, and just useless level up rewards.

[★ ⛟ RyanDIngusxGOD ඞ❟❛❟⭕⃤✿ 🆆𝓱𝓪ςк]

Thank you for reply Unknown

[EnStorEn]

If you could get guaranteed top loot every time, then endgame would be 1 hour long. If you play champion and get a general's you are pretty much guaranteed orange stuff. Emperor's will most likely be when you get reds and cosmetics.

[UnknownDjinn]

Originally posted by Real Big Skaven Boii:

If you could get guaranteed top loot every time, then endgame would be 1 hour long. If you play champion and get a general's you are pretty much guaranteed orange stuff. Emperor's will most likely be when you get reds and cosmetics.

No one is asking for guaranteed top loot. But you shouldn't put "Ranald's Gift" in the game if you have to roll a 1000 sided die and if it lands on 1-989 it's worthless and if it rolls on 990-999 it makes the difference between soldiers and generals and only if it rolls 1000 will you ever see emporers. I find this extremely poor taste.

Originally posted by Renoco:

Seems OP didn't play the first game lmao. Go look at the rng from having all tomes/grims and some loot dice. Half the time you just got some ♥♥♥♥ item. And in the first game you only got one item from completing a map, and just useless level up rewards.

I did play the first one as you can see in my profile. Wasn't a fan of the loot system then. This loot system is somewhat better. Being level 15 and only getting whites regardless of chest level or recruit/vet/champ difficulty. While these level 5-10s are getting oranges. Leaves a sour taste in ones mouth ya know?

[Mister Meatball]

I just think requiring Ranald's gift to get emporer box is a little too much. Emporer level slot machines still have no promise of getting the stuff you want, or even getting decent stuff in the first place.

Theres no reason for this much grind and it is hard for me to say that this loot system is really better in any way than the first. Because at least in the first if you got blues you could join a buddy on nightmare. Now you have some fake number you need to magically make bigger so you magically do more damage.

Even if it is PVE its just a little to much. I can see this treadmill becoming a real chore if you want to be decent at or even try lord difficulty. It just seems to me like a really cheap and trasparent way of increasing your time running on the loot treadmill for no real benefit to the player.

If the gift was a way to get a better chest in case you whiffed it and lost a grim I'd be fine with it. However gating the best chance at the best loot behind even more chance just seems arbitrary and lame.

[derw4tz]

in defense: you can get yellow stuff out of generals chests rather frequently so thats nice

[Warlord]

You'll survive.

The second you get what you want loot wise you'll be complaining there isn't anything else to do.

[Bob]

The loot issue is what murdered the community on vermtinde 1's release... it is a bit better this time around, but it can seriously impact the playerbase if people feel their time isn't being rewarded.

Some of you keep pointing out RNG is RNG, but that doesn't really change much does it? If we do full tome/grim runs and get nothing out of it too many times in a row, it just gets tiring to say the least. Stayed like that in V1 for well over a year until they FINALLY started to add ways to ease the suffering and like magic people came back to the game.

[BigBigu]

You clearly didnt play the 1st game,THAT was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ RNG.

[MrTynd]

The problem is that both with a grimoire or two you will have the same reward cuz of Ranald, so it's not worth taking the second with his respective penalty when you're going to have the same reward.