New DLC - Kerillian's Shield and Spear (Winds of Magic)

[K]

5 New Weapons - One for each hero
- Kerillian has a shield and spear.
- Sienna can swing her flames with a flaming flail.
- Bardin has a new set of throwing axes.
- Saltzpyre now has a billhook.
- Kruber can use heavy spear.

Do you hear the sarcasm?

[Freedzone]

No triple mohawk for slayer? Dat is disappointing...

[Red Eclipse]

Originally posted by Freedzone:

No triple mohawk for slayer? Dat is disappointing...

There are those who wouldn't consider a triple mohawk a "weapon".

Those people probably don't have friends.

[Leto]

unchained finally getting an appropriate weapon
i hope it's good. throwing axes too.
the rest i don't care for now. we'll see

[Vacca]

spear and shield and boar spear honestly sound boring as hell. the rest is interesting enough.

[Axlidious]

I'm quite curious about that "Great Spear"
How great can a *great* spear be?
Maybe they intend to make it appear like a lance or something, I mean Kruber is a foot-KNIGHT after all...

Honestly I'm also quite curious to see how they intend to make a shield of elvish origin for Kerillian.

Bardin finally gets throwing axes?
Neat!

Sienna gets a flaming flail?
Neat! (Didn't even see that coming)

Saltz gets a billhook?
Welp okay............. Better than nothing....

[Coffeefiend]

Originally posted by Axlidious:

I'm quite curious about that "Great Spear"
How great can a *great* spear be?
Maybe they intend to make it appear like a lance or something, I mean Kruber is a foot-KNIGHT after all...
Honestly I'm also quite curious to see how they intend to make a shield of elvish origin for Kerillian.

I guess you're referring to the boar spear? At this point it doesn't seem like there are any plans to give the boar spear any special attacks or properties, so probably just reskinned elf spear.
A lance on a foot knight doesn't make much sense btw, it's intended to be used from horseback, closest thing would be a pike and that would also be pretty unpractical.

For Kerillians shield&spear I dare say it's going to be completely broken...well maybe not in the context of a&f zealot.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by Axlidious:

I'm quite curious about that "Great Spear"
How great can a *great* spear be?
Maybe they intend to make it appear like a lance or something, I mean Kruber is a foot-KNIGHT after all...

Lances were designed for mounted warriors, not for infantry. Specifically for charge attacks giving the knight both impact and reach.
Basically, they were used like this in battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGjfeUmK3w

[Axlidious]

Originally posted by Notre Dame Burns... Heresy:

Originally posted by Axlidious:

I'm quite curious about that "Great Spear"
How great can a *great* spear be?
Maybe they intend to make it appear like a lance or something, I mean Kruber is a foot-KNIGHT after all...

Lances were designed for mounted warriors, not for infantry. Specifically for charge attacks giving the knight both impact and reach.
Basically, they were used like this in battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGjfeUmK3w

Yeah, I'm aware of that,
but I was referring solely to the appearance of the spear, so it would be fashioned similar to a knightly lance rather than some boring boar spear..
Might not be the most practical of things but at least it has the potential to look good while poking the Skaven heretics..

Might be something of similar design:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1YQLS_enIL768IL768&biw=1920&bih=969&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=IJvJXPfEB4u8gwef-IXIAg&q=lance+&oq=lance+&gs_l=img.3..0i67j0l9.11614.12107..12725...0.0..0.115.523.1j4......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i5i30j0i8i30j0i24.XSr8MvHfJkA#imgrc=ef7bBM__FXh5fM:

Or maybe some Warhammer'esque trident-spear with skulls or something..

Damn I would be really disappointed if we are about to get some cheap recolored version of the elven spear or something : /

[OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle]

Originally posted by Coffeefiend:

For Kerillians shield&spear I dare say it's going to be completely broken...well maybe not in the context of a&f zealot.

Yeah, the problem I'm having with conceptualizing shield & spear is that I don't see how it could NOT be broken if it has any of the capabilities of the normal spear.

However, there's also the possibility that it will have none of the high points of the normal spear in order to avoid that, but then would end up useless in comparison.

Interested to see how FS chooses to implement these weapons because I have to admit some of them sound...optimistic, balance-wise.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by Axlidious:

Originally posted by Notre Dame Burns... Heresy:

Lances were designed for mounted warriors, not for infantry. Specifically for charge attacks giving the knight both impact and reach.
Basically, they were used like this in battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGjfeUmK3w

Yeah, I'm aware of that,
but I was referring solely to the appearance of the spear, so it would be fashioned similar to a knightly lance rather than some boring boar spear..
Might not be the most practical of things but at least it has the potential to look good while poking the Skaven heretics..

Might be something of similar design:
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1YQLS_enIL768IL768&biw=1920&bih=969&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=IJvJXPfEB4u8gwef-IXIAg&q=lance+&oq=lance+&gs_l=img.3..0i67j0l9.11614.12107..12725...0.0..0.115.523.1j4......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i5i30j0i8i30j0i24.XSr8MvHfJkA#imgrc=ef7bBM__FXh5fM:

Or maybe some Warhammer'esque trident-spear with skulls or something..

Damn I would be really disappointed if we are about to get some cheap recolored version of the elven spear or something : /

I expect we'll be seeing either a fantasy design or medieval design on the boar spear.
Wouldn't make sense to me to go for a lance appearance, don't see how it'd work. But that's just me.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle:

Originally posted by Coffeefiend:

For Kerillians shield&spear I dare say it's going to be completely broken...well maybe not in the context of a&f zealot.

Yeah, the problem I'm having with conceptualizing shield & spear is that I don't see how it could NOT be broken if it has any of the capabilities of the normal spear.

However, there's also the possibility that it will have none of the high points of the normal spear in order to avoid that, but then would end up useless in comparison.

Interested to see how FS chooses to implement these weapons because I have to admit some of them sound...optimistic, balance-wise.

Spearmen with shields typically are grounded and use it in formations such as a phalanx. I don't think it'd be OP, sounds like you'll be sacrificing mobility which is one of the spears strongest points. (no pun intended)
Depending on the shield, the damage will be less or the same, but it depends if the shield allows you to hold the spear with 2hands, which was needed for a Sarissa or if it's a short spear that can be held with 1h.

I imagine it will look something like this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/b3/e6/84b3e6a0cbcd69aec378df56cf4b516e.jpg

[LinkZeppeloyd]

Originally posted by Coffeefiend:

Originally posted by Axlidious:

I'm quite curious about that "Great Spear"
How great can a *great* spear be?
Maybe they intend to make it appear like a lance or something, I mean Kruber is a foot-KNIGHT after all...
Honestly I'm also quite curious to see how they intend to make a shield of elvish origin for Kerillian.

I guess you're referring to the boar spear? At this point it doesn't seem like there are any plans to give the boar spear any special attacks or properties, so probably just reskinned elf spear.
A lance on a foot knight doesn't make much sense btw, it's intended to be used from horseback, closest thing would be a pike and that would also be pretty unpractical.

For Kerillians shield&spear I dare say it's going to be completely broken...well maybe not in the context of a&f zealot.

Is it not possible that the boar spear is actually a throwing weapon like bardins new axe?

A, because Kruber desperately desperately needs a new ranged weapon (or enable the bow on FK and Merc) and B, we know thr mechanic exists thanks to Bardins throwing axes.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by LinkZeppeloyd:

Originally posted by Coffeefiend:

I guess you're referring to the boar spear? At this point it doesn't seem like there are any plans to give the boar spear any special attacks or properties, so probably just reskinned elf spear.
A lance on a foot knight doesn't make much sense btw, it's intended to be used from horseback, closest thing would be a pike and that would also be pretty unpractical.

For Kerillians shield&spear I dare say it's going to be completely broken...well maybe not in the context of a&f zealot.

Is it not possible that the boar spear is actually a throwing weapon like bardins new axe?

A, because Kruber desperately desperately needs a new ranged weapon (or enable the bow on FK and Merc) and B, we know thr mechanic exists thanks to Bardins throwing axes.

It would be called a javelin if that's the case. Which is a light spear designed to be thrown.

[Vacca]

Originally posted by LinkZeppeloyd:

Originally posted by Coffeefiend:

I guess you're referring to the boar spear? At this point it doesn't seem like there are any plans to give the boar spear any special attacks or properties, so probably just reskinned elf spear.
A lance on a foot knight doesn't make much sense btw, it's intended to be used from horseback, closest thing would be a pike and that would also be pretty unpractical.

For Kerillians shield&spear I dare say it's going to be completely broken...well maybe not in the context of a&f zealot.

Is it not possible that the boar spear is actually a throwing weapon like bardins new axe?

A, because Kruber desperately desperately needs a new ranged weapon (or enable the bow on FK and Merc) and B, we know thr mechanic exists thanks to Bardins throwing axes.

I mean I think it'll be just a Kerillian spear with a broader head and more sweep attacks, but sure. More new mechanics is better than less.

[cstkl1]

what i wish is for slayer.. since he has two melee weapons.. he can hurl one for range which he can pick it up or it auto pickups say after 15 sec etc....

that will make slayer range thing a thing of da past....
hate it i got to be da guy who waits at corners