Winds of Magic: Achievements?

[Lowlight]

Steam players have not gotten new Achievements for any of the expansions thus far, even while console players have gotten a new batch with each release. The first Vermintide game also added new Achievements with the expansions. My questions is this: Will Steam players get new Achievements with this expansion or not? And if so, why not? Is it really because you are worried about upsetting some small user base that likes to keep 100%? Do you not think they would like more to complete? Do Steam players deserve LESS features than console players?

For reference, here are some of the additional achievements that FatShark has decided Steam players do not deserve access to:

https://www.trueachievements.com/game/Warhammer-Vermintide-2/dlc

If you don't like links, here's the breakdown: Steam players, who supported both games prior to console releases, have 26 achievements in the base game compared to 50 for console players. The DLC adds an additional 20 (10 per new expansion), which Farsight did not choose to implement for Steam players as well.

[Pungent]

Originally posted by Lowlight:

Do Steam players deserve LESS features than console players?

Ah yes, because console players have it so much better than us, what with their sub-30FPS, 60 FOV, months-late updates, constant crashes, and no mod support.

Why don't we ever get anything ;(

[Lowlight]

Originally posted by Pungent:

Originally posted by Lowlight:

Do Steam players deserve LESS features than console players?

Ah yes, because console players have it so much better than us, what with their sub-30FPS, 60 FOV, months-late updates, constant crashes, and no mod support.

Why don't we ever get anything ;(

YOU HAVE 2000 HOURS PLAYED IN THIS GAME. GOOD LORD!

I'm not suggesting I would ever defect to playing any FPS on a console. That is the way of madness. But I don't think it is fair for Steam players to be denied a fairly common feature either. It's not like Achievements are not some new thing, and its not like the first game didn't have over 100 of them. Clearly there are people who like and enjoy them, and more players sticking with a game that depends on people coming back to survive is a good thing for the whole community, right?

[SamEstine]

I mean, I wouldn't mind more achievements, but I wouldn't care if there weren't any.

In Summary: I'm neutral. I just want new skulls to crack :)

[Myrmidon]

Originally posted by Pungent:

Originally posted by Lowlight:

Do Steam players deserve LESS features than console players?

Ah yes, because console players have it so much better than us, what with their sub-30FPS, 60 FOV, months-late updates, constant crashes, and no mod support.

Why don't we ever get anything ;(

[Starbelly Geek]

I seem to recall that with VT1 Fatshark got a lot of hate from completists who thought they were being forced to buy all of the big DLCs to be able to finish the achievements that were added with each one. As a result of that, they decided not to add any Steam achievements to VT2 with new DLCs and expansions.
I can't be terribly bothered. For those who like having little goals, there are always the in-game Okri challenges.

[Myrmidon]

Fundamentally a lot of steam achievements are little more than girl scout badges with very little if any quantifiable relevance to competency in anything. Some of them are so obscure and arbitrary that they prove nothing beyond a person wanting to complete them for the pure sake of it. Something like landing the killing blow on a rat ogre mid-leap.... Just why? What is it even supposed to be proving or indicating to us about a specific player? It conveys absolutely nothing.

[Lowlight]

Originally posted by Myrmidon:

Fundamentally a lot of steam achievements are little more than girl scout badges with very little if any quantifiable relevance to competency in anything. Some of them are so obscure and arbitrary that they prove nothing beyond a person wanting to complete them for the pure sake of it. Something like landing the killing blow on a rat ogre mid-leap.... Just why? What is it even supposed to be proving or indicating to us about a specific player? It conveys absolutely nothing.

Ok, do that again but this time use the cosmetic hats or portrait frames that drop in game instead of Achievements. What is the difference there? What is the time sink that keeps YOU coming back again and again? And does it make you feel good about the time you have invested?

I like to log in, play a little, maybe work towards an achievement, terrific. I get one or two and mission accomplished. I have a track of my progress and friends can see what I have done that day (and vice versa). I can play a different game or go outside and not feel like I've been sucked into a parasitic existence for a calendar work year of time invested.

Why does this game make its most hardcore players seemingly miserable?

[Stram Jam]

I could always go for more achievements!

[Halvars]

Achievements are pointless, so no don't make any work on that at all.

[Lowlight]

Originally posted by Halvars:

Achievements are pointless, so no don't make any work on that at all.

How much work would it be to flip the switch and enable the same achievements that console versions already have?

Are cosmetic hats and costumes also pointless? You've played well over 1500 hours. That's over 37 work weeks in this game. Are you playing purely for the fun of it or are you chasing loot boxes? How is one person's preferred feature somehow less of a "point" than someone elses?

[tyrone shoelaces]

Originally posted by Starbelly Geek:

I seem to recall that with VT1 Fatshark got a lot of hate from completists who thought they were being forced to buy all of the big DLCs to be able to finish the achievements that were added with each one. As a result of that, they decided not to add any Steam achievements to VT2 with new DLCs and expansions.
I can't be terribly bothered. For those who like having little goals, there are always the in-game Okri challenges.

[Lowlight]

Originally posted by Starbelly Geek:

I seem to recall that with VT1 Fatshark got a lot of hate from completists who thought they were being forced to buy all of the big DLCs to be able to finish the achievements that were added with each one. As a result of that, they decided not to add any Steam achievements to VT2 with new DLCs and expansions.
I can't be terribly bothered. For those who like having little goals, there are always the in-game Okri challenges.

They added them to the console versions. And trust me, if Fatshark did things just because people complained, I would imagine you lot wouldn't be so darned bitter about the loot system and paid DLC all the time.

[tyrone shoelaces]

Originally posted by Lowlight:

You've played well over 1500 hours. That's over 37 work weeks in this game. Are you playing purely for the fun of it or are you chasing loot boxes? How is one person's preferred feature somehow less of a "point" than someone elses?

how about you create a compelling view point based on factual information as opposed to looking at an individuals profile page and twisting the information you find there to reflect your personal agenda?

that is why my "level 0 private troll profile" is set to friends only. it doesn't matter what is 'hidden' in there. the topic is the topic, not the individual.

get grown

thanks

[tyrone shoelaces]

Originally posted by Lowlight:

They added them to the console versions. And trust me, if Fatshark did things just because people complained, I would imagine you lot wouldn't be so darned bitter about the loot system and paid DLC all the time.

lol well you aren't sounding bitter at ALL

brb getting some corn

[Halvars]

Originally posted by Lowlight:

How much work would it be to flip the switch and enable the same achievements that console versions already have?

Are cosmetic hats and costumes also pointless? You've played well over 1500 hours. That's over 37 work weeks in this game. Are you playing purely for the fun of it or are you chasing loot boxes? How is one person's preferred feature somehow less of a "point" than someone elses?

:kodp_duck:

I playing for fun and to improve myself in the game. Achievements does not improve they game in any aspect but for some minor people that just must collect stuff.