SR3 character models vs SR3 Remaster characters comparison

[Iggy Wolf]

Someone should make a post with pictures comparing the original with the remaster. I would personally do it but I don't know how to embed pictures in here, much less comparison photos next to each other, so people can see the differences and perhaps we can have a poll asking which ones they think look better.

[BOWSER]

My favorite change is Kinzie. I screenshot this from a video and uploaded from my phone to my Steam account. All credit goes to 3rd Street Saint at Youtube.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2111076422

[Sunday Driver]

引用自 BOWSER：

My favorite change is Kinzie. I screenshot this from a video and uploaded from my phone to my Steam account. All credit goes to 3rd Street Saint at Youtube.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2111076422

That's a pretty big difference! More than just a shader change going on.

[Machine Gunn Eddie]

Main characters changed (specially gat so bad) npcs still cartoonish style faces, "remastered" but confusing now this game now cartoonish style or half realistic models style?

Dramatically lazy half work :/

[Zenith]

引用自 Machine Gunn Eddie：

Main characters changed (specially gat so bad) npcs still cartoonish style faces, "remastered" but confusing now this game now cartoonish style or half realistic models style?

Dramatically lazy half work :/

Dramatically lazy half work? You're insane mate, and need an eye test apparently.

[Iggy Wolf]

引用自 Zenith：

引用自 Machine Gunn Eddie：

Main characters changed (specially gat so bad) npcs still cartoonish style faces, "remastered" but confusing now this game now cartoonish style or half realistic models style?

Dramatically lazy half work :/

Dramatically lazy half work? You're insane mate, and need an eye test apparently.

What I think he means is that they went for the realism angle when it comes to the characters, which sharply contrasts with the rest of the game's art style, which is meant to be cartoony. It's why some of the new character models (while technically impressive) make them look completely different, as to be a different person altogether, and do NOT fit in with the rest of the game's cartoony look.

Sometimes this a problem when remastering a game, since you're expected to make everything look better while still maintaining consistency in the art style and design. But since Sperasoft did this remaster and not Volition, I guess I can't blame them for not knowing what vision Volition had for the game. They were asked to improve models, and that's what they did. I doubt a "maintain consistency with art style and design" clause was in that contract or a requirement.

[Machine Gunn Eddie]

引用自 Zenith：

引用自 Machine Gunn Eddie：

Main characters changed (specially gat so bad) npcs still cartoonish style faces, "remastered" but confusing now this game now cartoonish style or half realistic models style?

Dramatically lazy half work :/

Dramatically lazy half work? You're insane mate, and need an eye test apparently.

i need dictionary too maybe explain what remaster and remake, or just mix em up sell for "remastered title"

[Sunday Driver]

The Kinzie change is massive. It's a whole new model. There's no cheap tricks there. I guess though Eddie above is referring to the generic NPCs and bad guys rather than the main characters of the game who appear in cinematics and so on? The environments and various other models in the game have been improved though so I'd be surprised if they didn't tweak the NPCs too. I saw the side by side comparison and even things like stores you can't enter have had their look improved and the interior through the windows look nicer.

[Sunday Driver]

引用自 Iggy Wolf：

引用自 Zenith：

Dramatically lazy half work? You're insane mate, and need an eye test apparently.

What I think he means is that they went for the realism angle when it comes to the characters, which sharply contrasts with the rest of the game's art style, which is meant to be cartoony. It's why some of the new character models (while technically impressive) make them look completely different, as to be a different person altogether, and do NOT fit in with the rest of the game's cartoony look.

Sometimes this a problem when remastering a game, since you're expected to make everything look better while still maintaining consistency in the art style and design. But since Sperasoft did this remaster and not Volition, I guess I can't blame them for not knowing what vision Volition had for the game. They were asked to improve models, and that's what they did. I doubt a "maintain consistency with art style and design" clause was in that contract or a requirement.

I guess that is a fair thing to argue over. I kind of liked the cartoonish style too. Photo realism isn't always the best option but you can still have increased fidelity while keeping a style. Hard to get right.

[Everybody Lies]

I like the old kenzi from what i see from the above picture, she looks for geeky and not serious but From what i see i don't like the look of the updated verison so won't be playing it.

[Sunday Driver]

引用自 Time Warrior：

I like the old kenzi from what i see from the above picture, she looks for geeky and not serious but From what i see i don't like the look of the updated verison so won't be playing it.

What's wrong with the updated model? It looks way more realistic.

[Everybody Lies]

引用自 Hoxilicious：

引用自 Time Warrior：

I like the old kenzi from what i see from the above picture, she looks for geeky and not serious but From what i see i don't like the look of the updated verison so won't be playing it.

What's wrong with the updated model? It looks way more realistic.

Actually don't care if i am honest, i prefer the older game and not this updated nonesense. Big deal high polly count and high detail etc i just think 2011 version of kenzi is better as is the whole saints row 3 game.

The wrecked shandi and Gat from the clips i have seen so i am sticking to the classic version thank you.

[Iggy Wolf]

引用自 Hoxilicious：

引用自 Time Warrior：

I like the old kenzi from what i see from the above picture, she looks for geeky and not serious but From what i see i don't like the look of the updated verison so won't be playing it.

What's wrong with the updated model? It looks way more realistic.

Realistic doesn't necessarily mean better. In fact, part of the problem is that although the models were updated, the facial expressions, animations, and lip sync were NOT. They used the animations from the original, making the facial expressions look very stiff and when the characters speak, the lip sync is off. It's actually a wonder how a studio charged with a remaster could not notice that, or knew it and still let it slide anyway.

You'd expect facial animations and expressions to actually be one of the things improved when you're told to make something look better and more realistic. The rigging of the skeletons is still the same as the old one. All in all, it makes it look like a "frankenstein" effort because the characters are still trying to animate, speak, and express themselves as if they were the old models.

[Everybody Lies]

Another thought I had is with the models from saints row 4 to 3 they looked identical and so on, with that said is 2024 going to see saints row 4 updated and if anyone plays saints row the third 2020 version how is it gonna look when they play 4 after it isn't the same game.

[BOWSER]

I'll admit. The boss still had the same goofy look as the original. The defaults eyes were set far apart and the lips were big just as I remembered it so you have to adjust a lot of sliders. So, Boss's model was left intact, probably because of the character creation system. The rest of the crew had updated models.

[no1schmo]

The problem with more realistic graphics is they look bad if they aren't amazing. What was super-realistic a few years ago now looks bad (roughly speaking). And these new models don't even look that great now--they already seem like models from several years ago, like maybe Fallout 4. I mean, they are not BAD, no, but they already seem dated and will only get worse. Meanwhile, more stylized graphics are essentially timeless; at the extreme edge, anime or cel-shading will never age. SR3 was sort of cartooney and fluid and had alot of motion and expression--I would have appreciated higher resolution, sharper details, sure, but making them look boring and already dated was hardly an improvement. I guess if SR3 had originally launched with these graphics, I wouldn't have complained, but it doesn't quite fit when I know what it was meant to look like.