I refuse to believe this isn't rigged.

[Krubb]

over 220 summons, 3 SP heroes and not one heartseeker?
8% chance? Yeah right. Scripted BS

[~Potato~]

Sadly sometimes you are unlucky, I have friends who did 12 summons and got her and some that did 600 and didnt. Its all about luck.

[Krubb]

It isn't about luck. You are just repeating what you read. I have tried other gacha games, and this is the first time I experience something like this, to this level.

[~Potato~]

Originally posted by Mani:

It isn't about luck. You are just repeating what you read. I have tried other gacha games, and this is the first time I experience something like this, to this level.

Actually I'm not. I've played this game for 2 years now. I had to pull for Asura for 500+ and didnt get him, but I got Sp Momiji in 12 pulls. I had to pull 250+ for Sp Enma to get her, got Taisha in 50 pulls. Its all about luck and thats it.

[~Potato~]

If you want real pain, the souls are the real pain. At least the shikigami u can get via trading. I know players who are from day 1 and still don't have sub spd +16 main spd slot 2 and I know 1 month players who got it. Game is all luck, almost no pity system anywhere, so it can be frustrating a lot of times.

[Krubb]

Why do you deny the fact that it is rigged?
Any other game that gives you a 6, 8 and 10 percentage of chance to summon a hero, usually provides it on the first 10 - 30 summons. The mere fact that it was 3 other SP heroes and - who by the way, has a smaller chance of being summoned - not heartseeker, tells you enough about how it was programmed. Love a game as much as you want, but stop defending something that is downright illegal.

[~Potato~]

I didnt compare the game to another. I only said it's a luck game, with no pity systems almost. It's all luck. Also people with full ssr get a bigger chance up than the ones without so there's that too. And yes sp is harder to get than ssr, and most people (myself included) got tired of sp after sp and no ssr inbetween. Game is f2p but makes people grind hard if they want most of the shiki or to play in pvp high tiers, which sucks but it is what it is.

Also where did I defent it before this reply? All I talked about is how its all about luck and that it's very unpleasant to play at times.

[Krubb]

You are just pulling strings to validate your own addiction. Why do you continue to make something like this a discussion when all the factors are there and against you?
There is nothing to talk, accept that it is rigged and move on. You have a math system you learned from school, try and use that on this summon system. If you defend it after again, then you are lost.

[Bree]

Originally posted by Mani:

You are just pulling strings to validate your own addiction. Why do you continue to make something like this a discussion when all the factors are there and against you?
There is nothing to talk, accept that it is rigged and move on. You have a math system you learned from school, try and use that on this summon system. If you defend it after again, then you are lost.

The rate up system clearly writes 8% chance of it being SP Momiji when you do summon a SP, you summoned SP thrice. Meaning for every 100 SP shikis you summon 8 of them would be Sp momiji. You only managed to get 3 sp shikis.

Maybe you think the rate is unfair, but this isnt like other gacha game that give you 50/50 chance and make u need to roll for 6 constellations or whatever rubbish they call it.
FYI, i summoned 460 and didnt get her and i even have full ssr collection for the boosted rate. I hate that i got unlucky but i'll accept it and just go shard her instead. On a plus side, you can always shard a character here, you cant do that in most other gacha games.

Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes life just doesnt want you to have it easy and then you have an unlucky streak. If you cant accept that then maybe you should stick to gacha games that give you a pity system that is within your acceptable range, but usually with pity system comes their nonsense whale territory constellations and you get stuck in content because anything below SSR cant get you through higher content.

Have fun and hope you have a better time elsewhere, perhaps gacha games just arent for you.

[Krubb]

Originally posted by Bree:

Originally posted by Mani:

You are just pulling strings to validate your own addiction. Why do you continue to make something like this a discussion when all the factors are there and against you?
There is nothing to talk, accept that it is rigged and move on. You have a math system you learned from school, try and use that on this summon system. If you defend it after again, then you are lost.

The rate up system clearly writes 8% chance of it being SP Momiji when you do summon a SP, you summoned SP thrice. Meaning for every 100 SP shikis you summon 8 of them would be Sp momiji. You only managed to get 3 sp shikis.

Maybe you think the rate is unfair, but this isnt like other gacha game that give you 50/50 chance and make u need to roll for 6 constellations or whatever rubbish they call it.
FYI, i summoned 460 and didnt get her and i even have full ssr collection for the boosted rate. I hate that i got unlucky but i'll accept it and just go shard her instead. On a plus side, you can always shard a character here, you cant do that in most other gacha games.

Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes life just doesnt want you to have it easy and then you have an unlucky streak. If you cant accept that then maybe you should stick to gacha games that give you a pity system that is within your acceptable range, but usually with pity system comes their nonsense whale territory constellations and you get stuck in content because anything below SSR cant get you through higher content.

Have fun and hope you have a better time elsewhere, perhaps gacha games just arent for you.

I am not reading all of that.

[~Potato~]

Either you are one salty person or a giant troll. Anyway I won't spend my time on you.

[Bree]

Originally posted by Mani:

Originally posted by Bree:

The rate up system clearly writes 8% chance of it being SP Momiji when you do summon a SP, you summoned SP thrice. Meaning for every 100 SP shikis you summon 8 of them would be Sp momiji. You only managed to get 3 sp shikis.

Maybe you think the rate is unfair, but this isnt like other gacha game that give you 50/50 chance and make u need to roll for 6 constellations or whatever rubbish they call it.
FYI, i summoned 460 and didnt get her and i even have full ssr collection for the boosted rate. I hate that i got unlucky but i'll accept it and just go shard her instead. On a plus side, you can always shard a character here, you cant do that in most other gacha games.

Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes life just doesnt want you to have it easy and then you have an unlucky streak. If you cant accept that then maybe you should stick to gacha games that give you a pity system that is within your acceptable range, but usually with pity system comes their nonsense whale territory constellations and you get stuck in content because anything below SSR cant get you through higher content.

Have fun and hope you have a better time elsewhere, perhaps gacha games just arent for you.

I am not reading all of that.

Which is why you assumed its 8% chance per summon and not per ssr, sadly.

[Krubb]

Boohoo, you redditors just cant handle a little kind of critic towards the only thing you wake up to in life.

[Krubb]

Originally posted by Bree:

Originally posted by Mani:

I am not reading all of that.

Which is why you assumed its 8% chance per summon and not per ssr, sadly.

https://postimg.cc/Kkc3Lqtg

Look at that.,
I never said such a thing you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Bree]

Originally posted by Mani:

Originally posted by Bree:

Which is why you assumed its 8% chance per summon and not per ssr, sadly.

https://postimg.cc/Kkc3Lqtg

Look at that.,
I never said such a thing you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Then I dont understand why you mentioned about math, because its 8% chance of it being sp momiji when you summon an ssr/sp, the rate of ssr is still 3.25% for the first 3 ssr/sp then reverts back to 1% for ssr, 0.25% for sp . So as you asked me to use math, your chance of any sp being sp momiji is 8% of 0.25% .
Dont understand what is so rigged about you getting 3 sp and none of it was sp momiji.
You have an education system that teaches you how to comprehend things written and the math system you learned from school, try and use that on this summon system.

[Krubb]

Holy lord. You really are a true redditor who lives off jizz.