Ironsight VS BlackSquad

[Hot Cake]

Tested out ironsight, it's literally COD , might as well just call it COD online. So to sum it up, if u just want run around and shoot stuff, iron sight is probably ur thing.

[Todi]

引用自 Terminus EstZwei：

Don't even bother with aeriagames, they will make ♥♥♥♥♥♥ decisions and will kill it again like most of their F2P fps.

FULL AGREE

[Max]

Ironsight is pretty fun, if Black Squad had the graphics and maps of Ironsight it would be a lot better.

[♣ Babymaker ♣]

引用自 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡Gator：

Black Squad had the graphics and maps of Ironsight it would be a lot better.

IronSight graphic isn't better than BS, hell no. But maps could be better in IronSight it it transit to BS.

[Max]

引用自 ♣ Babymaker ♣：

引用自 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡Gator：

Black Squad had the graphics and maps of Ironsight it would be a lot better.

IronSight graphic isn't better than BS, hell no. But maps could be better in IronSight it it transit to BS.

I dunno man, I play them both on highest settings and the gun and character models just look better in Ironsight to me, the environment textures in both aren't that great though.

[Hot Cake]

引用自 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡Gator：

引用自 ♣ Babymaker ♣：

IronSight graphic isn't better than BS, hell no. But maps could be better in IronSight it it transit to BS.

I dunno man, I play them both on highest settings and the gun and character models just look better in Ironsight to me, the environment textures in both aren't that great though.

environment , ironsight is better. But if it's character models it's definitely BS that's better.

[Granny Lube]

My potatoe PC only just manages to catch BS at 60 frames. Trying IS would be torture for me. On another note, Aeriagames sucks ass.

[Max]

引用自 DxDark：

Ironsight is currently an AVOID level game thanks to what looks to be trash netcode and hitbox issues...BS has pretty good netcode (even compared to AAA titles), and IS is looking pretty damn close to Escape from Tarkov's netcode to me...people will kill you without being in your viewport from angles that were clearly in your viewport, on top of other weird events like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXh5teTMBkE

Ain't that the truth, I can still rack up kills so it's fun, but 99% of the time I die it's from someone I can't see or someone that looks like they shot me through a wall.

[PhuThaang]

whatsoever....blah blah..

[Tatsuya Hiroki]

引用自 ♣ Babymaker ♣：

引用自 干拉：

is it on steam?

Currently no.

it will be soon apparerntly

[Fhuesoga]

引用自 Broomstick Beater：

At least the maps there wasn't made by a 5 year old child that just learned about symmetry. But yeah, its literally CoD. And at least it isn't plagued by piss poor map design. Other than that, its from Aeria games. Don't expect it to live long.

maps are stupid in Ironsight , to many openings to many shi.t u get dizzy just looking around and some noob is coming from some stupid hole and kick ur as.s , weapons are mostly the same atleast they do some shi.t just aspect is defferent for some of them , getting one shot from deagle but they wont get 1 shot from sniper 40% of the time (btw for ppl didnt play it , there is no armour to protect u ) and so many stupid things , if u go "live" with a game make sure the fking shooting its ok atleast , then u focus on new maps and etc. , stupid players all over the game , campers like in this game i never seens before ( i play sniper ) and i dont camp with it , ur good then move around and get kills , not switching corners like a noob and after the game u say "ez" , in other words the more i play the more stupid game becomes , im gonna try now Black Squad hope it ok if not fk shooter games , this days they can do a shi.t right.

And are so many much more things just doesnt come in my mind right now , the game its fun for first 2 days , cuz ur new and etc , after that u start to notice stuff and bullshi.ts. And trust me a gamer who plays shooter game this game is gonna drive him crazy , stu.pid stu.pid game.

[DemonGrenade274]

It's been a long while since I played BS. Last time I played the game was riddled with hackers and cheaters. But that was almost 2 years ago I think.

IS is what I've been playing lately and the game's biggest issue is BY FAR its awful netcode. Its among the worst I've ever seen.

Beyond that there are further issues. Weapon attachments are just awful. Most only give a +1 to a single stat, which sucks balls. For example all the various barrels you can get for your weapons all add +1 to range, which literally translates to 1 more meter of range. Thats completely pointless. Or take the muzzle break vs the compensator attachment. Both give +1 to recoil control, but one requires weapon level 5 and the other level 10. But they both do the same exact thing so one isn't an upgrade to the other. There's only a small handful of attachments that are worth a damn and even then they aren't that great.

Now I don't know the following for a fact, but I suspect its part of why damage is so inconsistent. I bet that the damage multipliers on the arms are less than on the torso, which can lead to an consistent time to kill when aiming center mass. Since enemies are holding their weapon in front of them, you are likely to hit their arms, causing less damage than a torso shot.

Overall the Time to kill is way to low. Most guns feel like you're shooting marsh mellows at people. I remember that at least in black squad that hit detection was solid, and headshots were satisfying and worth going for. But in Ironsight its just all over the place with its hit detection so you cant even begin to prioritize headshots.

If at this point, BS has none of the problems that IS has then I'd happily switch over.

[bearyfrosty]

引用自 DemonGrenade274：

It's been a long while since I played BS. Last time I played the game was riddled with hackers and cheaters. But that was almost 2 years ago I think.

Overall the Time to kill is way to low. Most guns feel like you're shooting marsh mellows at people. I remember that at least in black squad that hit detection was solid, and headshots were satisfying and worth going for. But in Ironsight its just all over the place with its hit detection so you cant even begin to prioritize headshots.

If at this point, BS has none of the problems that IS has then I'd happily switch over.

TTK is still pretty low for BS - most guns kill in 3-4 hits to the body, and almost all are 1-2 to the head. There's a spreadsheet with damage values in the #faq channel of the official Black Squad Discord server that shows you how much damage is dealt - and it's consistent too.

[4Kingz.]

What is the best STEAM alterantive to BLACK SQUAD, I really like STEAM.

[诗]

ironsight is sheet. uninstalled after 1 game. its real trash

[Tatsuya Hiroki]

引用自 S. Conroy：

Ironsight is not good at all. Played it for about 50-80 hours. I was there from day one in the CBT back in November 2017. I was there when it launched in OBT in February 2018.

Ever since they went into OBT, there has been only trouble with the game and nothing really happened. The netcode is one of the worst in all the FPS games I've played in my life. And all they ever managed to add for 12 months was 4 maps... one of which is broken and nobody plays it, it's a whole game mode and it's completely broken.

They never added any new weapons to the game and once tried rebalancing them, but it failed, because the stat changes were so small that it didn't make a difference. The problem in this game was that SMGs and SRs were really OP. Ironsight, being a CoD clone allows you to run around the map with a sniper and quickscope like you're a maniac.

Here you can see the broken SR right after the "SR nerfing" - they did nothing to remedy the situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrV8pH_CU_g

Since there is no content updates to the game, they only release skins. Just like Black Squad as of late. 95% of the update is new skins in lootboxes for real money, 3% is some fixes nobody cares about and 2% is some "actual content update".

The netcode is so bad that people kill you from behind walls, you empty a whole clip into people and they refuse to die only because they're lagging. You can watch a video on the netcode here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke25TkcRP_s

There is a gun in Ironsight called AR-57, it's an SMG, just like the P90 in Black Squad - it has 50 bullets, no recoil, no spread and really long range, the noobs just run around like idiots with it and spray for headshots from 20 meters without even thinking. You can see a video of it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgEmc8JYTKg

There is also a prone mechanic in the game that noobs really like to spam. It works like this - if you press and hold CTRL key, you drop on the ground, the animation for prone is so quick, that noobs use it when they are getting shot at, they just prone, and spray with the AR-57 and get headshots and ruin the whole game.

Combine the lack of content updates, constant cash grab skins updates, broken netcode, broken gun balance, too many noobs idiots playing and abusing the broken guns and people just left. Population now is very low, probably around 700 people and it keeps dropping, because nothing is happening with the game. That's about 80% of the population that left the game.

Don't bother with this game. It's also being published by Aeria games, and Aeria ruin all their games. They ruined Alliance of Valiant Arms, if you played AVA you will remember how in 2013 they made all normal guns temporary purchases for 30 days and people went insane on the forums and Aeria pìssed themselves and reverted it, because the backlash was insane. Now they have Ironsight and they managed to ruin it for 12 months. Also the developers are Korean and they don't communicate at all, they don't even read the forums, so all feedback has to go through Aeria's staff so you can't know which part of the feedback even reaches the Korean team. It's just the same like in Black Squad - you can post 20 threads with suggestions, post 20 tickets with suggestions how to make the game better and you still don't know if any of your feedback will ever reach the Korean developers.


Ironsight is dead and Black Squad is dead too, don't waste your time with these games, wait for something new to release.

i wouldnt exactly call Ironsight players a noob, but yeah, the game is really not doing too great right now. Gonna look forward to the potential steam release, that is if the game doesnt gets a termination notice until then