Processor: 2 GHz Memory: 1024 MB RAM Graphics: Any ? ..........

[sp3lfanaaT]

hi just bought the game, it runs BUT.........


I suggest you change the 2 ghz to at least a quad 2,67 and even then performance is horrible
the game seems to be made with unity like many games nowadays.


performance is very very very bad..............


CPU usage is 47% at startup of the game and keeps rising , gives a high pitched noise (cpu)
GPU 57 degrees celsius and keeps rising rapidly
fans spinng at max and the noise is geting worse
I dont want to burn out my pc


my system should be more then able to run it:


my system:

win7 64 bits 8 GB
i5 750 quad core 2,67 Ghz
GTS 250 1 GB ram



I probably wont get a reply cause i have same problem with more games (unity games) and no one gave me a reply sofar ( so much for support)


I like HOGs but if i have to risk my PC the fun is over.

[sp3lfanaaT]

15 days ago since i asked a question...........

nevermind...... its been to long, no more reply needed....
i guess i just stop buying games here dont want to burn my pc


Alawar and Artifex Mundi reply much faster ...............

[sp3lfanaaT]

30 days :D still no reply new record set

[aceldamia]

Originally posted by sp3lfanaaT:

30 days :D still no reply new record set

Not a record.

What was your question? You didn't ask any questions.

If you are having problems with this game and performance, you really really need a new computer. This is not a demanding game for any computer. It's about as simple as you can get, and I don't even have a powerful comptuer.

GPU temp's do not matter until you are well past 80c. You have a long way to go before it's any problems at 57c.

And Unity is amazing, so not sure what the complaint is there.

But, at least you now finally got a reply. The "record" streak ends.

[sp3lfanaaT]

Originally posted by aceldamia:

Originally posted by sp3lfanaaT:

30 days :D still no reply new record set

Not a record.

What was your question? You didn't ask any questions.

If you are having problems with this game and performance, you really really need a new computer. This is not a demanding game for any computer. It's about as simple as you can get, and I don't even have a powerful comptuer.

GPU temp's do not matter until you are well past 80c. You have a long way to go before it's any problems at 57c.

And Unity is amazing, so not sure what the complaint is there.

But, at least you now finally got a reply. The "record" streak ends.

new pc ? thats right but since the euro was born things got quite expensive.... in the old days before euros things were much better....
You see they divided all incomes and payments by 2.22 and some fractions...
Lets take the dutch guilder as example:

If someone with a job earned 2200 guilders they got 2200 / 2.20 (and a little)
they should have given them 2200 Euros cause afterall : there was no sense in thinking back to the old currency our governmnets told us, , but the govs DID reduce the income by 2.20 and thats where it hurts the Dutch.
Maybe the countries with a very weak currency benefitted: Greece, Italy, Belgium very weak currencies: belgium francs 5 cents, italian lire was worth even less, and greece had a very weak currency aswell...

Anyway... seems i have to wait another year ....

[webfischi]

Did you ever try to check the used market for a new used PC? You can get very good PCs for about 350€ here in Germany. But the system requirements of the game are very very bad. But I think you got more of a cooling issue there. When did you clean you're PC the last time? The high pitched noise is the problem of the intel boxed cooler. You should change it to a more premium one (the ones about 30€ are already twice as good). The problem with your GPU is that is a little too old, you should use a GTX 450 backblower style instead. You will upgrade from 1GB GDDR3-VRAM to 1GB GDDR5-VRAM and you will get DirectX 11 support. Everything together will cost you about 60€ and those lightweight games will run much better. Maybe upgrade to an i7 860 if you have a little more money left, saw some auctions starting at 1€ on ebay.de you will see how those 4 additional threads will boost this PC

[sp3lfanaaT]

Originally posted by webfischi:

Did you ever try to check the used market for a new used PC? You can get very good PCs for about 350€ here in Germany. But the system requirements of the game are very very bad. But I think you got more of a cooling issue there. When did you clean you're PC the last time? The high pitched noise is the problem of the intel boxed cooler. You should change it to a more premium one (the ones about 30€ are already twice as good). The problem with your GPU is that is a little too old, you should use a GTX 450 backblower style instead. You will upgrade from 1GB GDDR3-VRAM to 1GB GDDR5-VRAM and you will get DirectX 11 support. Everything together will cost you about 60€ and those lightweight games will run much better.

thats correct the stock cooler is a sad cooler but, most of the default pc or selfbuild pc will have avaergae mobos and cpus and gpu's and the real artic coolers as they call them are evry heavy, they will make some boards hang over, because of the weight i have seen peecess that had gpu and boards that were fitted with to heavy coolers the boards were bending....

Problem is that the cpu seems to be the bottleneck again, back then the GPU was the bottleneck and games put a heavy load on GPU.... thing is my GPU is now to new and fast for my old mobo/cpu: the GPU is newer: GTX 750 Ti (released 2014) and the rest is from 2009 (ouch ) yup that hurts performance...


Anyway a welknown fact is too much games are being build with Unity ( very bad cpu optimisation, wintermute is also bad cpu performance)
if a game would just be coded like the old days..... today its all a click and play gaming industry...
the way games are build they use dsome sort of gamecreators in which they build a game with 'click and play' very sad....

[webfischi]

Didn't know you upgraded the GPU already, then look around for a 3rd or 4th generation i5 with mobo so you don't have to buy new RAM. You don't have to buy those huge cooler. There are smaller ones like the be quiet! Shadow Rock LP

[sp3lfanaaT]

Originally posted by webfischi:

Didn't know you upgraded the GPU already, then look around for a 3rd or 4th generation i5 with mobo so you don't have to buy new RAM. You don't have to buy those huge cooler. There are smaller ones like the be quiet! Shadow Rock LP

the gpu had nice pricetag, the rest is quite expensive even the older ones you mention are twice the price i paid for the GPU... so that would be like 350 to 400 euros for mobo/ram and cpu maybe more and it would still be a fairly old model ( the pro is that the hardware itself wont be 8 years old and used for 8 years) but its still a lot of money to cough up

[Cunin]

The game might be very well more demanding than needed, since it's using Unity and most scenes (probably all of them) are made of movie clips for the on-screen animations, which has always been a problem for this engine (other similarly-made games needs an unbelievably high cpu power for rendering these scenese made of movie-clips).
Games made with other engines, made on purpose for HO games, requires little to no resources in comparison.

Anyway, if your system is made right, it should never run the risk of burning up.
For cpus and gpus, you always need to make sure the heatsinks are clean from dust, the fans are working right (and are clean, too), and that the thermal paste is working fine. Some cheap (and/or very old) thermal paste has reduced dissipation properties and may not do their job right.
Just run a software like HWMonitor (grab the free one from cpuid.com) and then play the game for a while, then close it and check the max temperatures reached. I keep it running all the time (I've set it to start with windows) and check it every now and then to see if everything's in order, because dust builds up very quickly.
Use an air-compressor to clean it, when needed. It should be done at least every season, although I do it twice a year and I still don't have problems, but it all depends on the cpu and heatsink model, case model, how the system is physically built, etcetera. Thermal paste replacement is only needed rarely, and some brands (like the Arctic Cooler ones) are guaranteed to last for at least 8 years before needing a replacement.

[sp3lfanaaT]

Thanks for the reply ... i assumed unity was doing it the other way then the good old programmers used to do... smaller codes, better performance, unity seems to be 'bloated'
seems to send/collect some game statistics aswell ( read it somewhere in a forum (googled)