Worst driving gameplay ever ?

[Héliande]

Hi,

I just wanted to check if anyone had struggled a lot to control the cars in this game ? It seems to me like they're all completely uncontrollable each time I'm making a turn, which sucks all the fun out of this game and will eventually make me uninstall it. Too bad because apart from driving, which is basically the game, everything else is awesome. I'm also asking myself if playing with a keyboard sort of makes it harder/handier ?

Cheers

[Fallingferret]

Originally posted by amos_2000:

Originally posted by Miketsukami Bo:

it's not the devs' fault that you're having trouble.

I always love this fanboy mentality. It's not the devs' fault the game they've written plays like it does. Nice one.

A game ought to stand up on its own. You should be able to figure out how to play a game just from playing it. Any time you reach a point where the only way you can progress is by going on forums and looking up what you're supposed to do, that's a failure of design. Do you not find you reach a point where it becomes pointless? What shall I do now, how do I solve this problem? I'll look on a forum and do what they say. You end up not playing games, just browsing instructions and carrying them out. Every other racing game I've played, you can learn by doing. You figure out what works and because the physics, or the rules, are consistent, eventually you learn to do less of something or more of something and it works. This is inconsistent, unpredictable, uncontrollable; fictional physics producing random results. I can just about get it round the track by crawling along at 20mph. Literally, my real-life Ford KA handles better than these cars, can take corners faster and more reliably. It's a funny thing but somehow, in real life I'm able to change lanes without ramraiding the nearest shop.

The handling here is ridiculous. Worse than any driving game, arcade or serious. rally or road, I've ever played. Seriously. I'm in the level 2 porsche, the one with the bull bars, and even just trying to edge across to one side of the track is randomly sometimes causing it to veer right off into a tree. And what on earth can you do about the fishtailing? The only solution I've found to that is literally stop the car. Not even slow down. You can't correct it and keep going.

It's such a shame, because the ridiculous handling aside everything else is beautiful. They've ruined a great game. I am whining, because I'm frustrated. I really want to like this game but it's just to undriveable.

Thanks for the info about Dirt Rally, I'll avoid that too.

Sounds like you're always on a rainy stage.

What's your Stability and Counter Steering setting at? I usually use the Apline/Montaine in Group 2, but picking up the Porsche for a quick snow then tarmac gave me no issue controlling the Porsche using 50% Stability and 80% Counter Steer. Both with controller and keyboard attempts.

[tcassat]

Originally posted by amos_2000:

The handling here is ridiculous. Worse than any driving game, arcade or serious. rally or road, I've ever played.

What kind of controllers are you using? I use a PS4 controller and with the analog triggers to use the gas pedal and the brake, in addition to the analog stick to drive the car, I have a lot of control of the situation and the gameplay looks extremely good.

I can't imagine playing this game with the keyboard or controllers with digital buttons, however. It is essential to be able to dose the gas/brakes and control the steering wheel with more finesse.

[Jojo Pagani]

worse driving gameplayplaying

[秋]

Originally posted by amos_2000:

Originally posted by Miketsukami Bo:

it's a stylised experience and it's probably not meant to make you pull your hair.

They ought to make the handling less ridiculous then.

I can see that there's lots of people here claiming that the car is totally controllable, it's all absolutely fine and so on. I just thought I'd add my voice to the people saying the opposite. I agree with the thread title. This could potentially be a great game, it's beautiful in almost every other respect, just ruined by totally random, uncontrollable handling. I've spent 12 hours so far and still can't make (any of) the cars reliably go in a straight line on a straight tarmac road: this is stupid. There is not a vehicle on earth that handles like that, unless its tyres have been oiled. Ever driven on a freeway? Did you see half the cars suddenly fishtailing and slamming into walls every time they need to bend direction slightly?

I'm not likely to buy anything these devs make in the future.

It iritates me that your profile is private and that I cannot see how many hours you have on dirt rally 1 and how many achivs you have unlocked there. Considering that both games behave very identical. It took me about 50 hours to learn how to drive ''properly'' in dirt rally 1 with a steam controller with gyro. After that I was shredding it. 12 Hours is nothing, especially considering every car behaves completely differently.

[tcassat]

I think the cartoon visual of Art of Rally is making some people think that the game is 100% arcade when it has a relatively complex simulation. Before complaining that the game has "bad" gameplay, you need to train a little, get used to the cars and learn to drive them.

In the beginning the most important thing is to keep the car on the track so that your average speed throughout the route is decent. There is no point in reaching the maximum speed on each straight if you are going to leave the track in every corner.

There is no need to be ashamed of going in the corners slowly at first. The important thing is to be able to stay on track (and understand that getting out of a corner fast is more important than going into a corner fast). The more you play worrying about staying on track, the more your brain will begin to understand the little details and the faster you will get. But if you can't stay on track because you're trying to go too fast from the beggining, your brain just won't learn anything.

[秋]

Originally posted by Miketsukami Bo:

Originally posted by H19H3N3RGY:

It iritates me that your profile is private and that I cannot see how many hours you have on dirt rally 1 and how many achivs you have unlocked there. Considering that both games behave very identical. It took me about 50 hours to learn how to drive ''properly'' in dirt rally 1 with a steam controller with gyro. After that I was shredding it. 12 Hours is nothing, especially considering every car behaves completely differently.

The 12 hours are in art of rally. Because I said that driving using a keyboard in Dirt Rally felt very similar to art of rally amos_2000 later commented that:

Originally posted by amos_2000:

Thanks for the info about Dirt Rally, I'll avoid that too.

But in case that was aimed at me, I've played only a few hours of Dirt Rally and I decided I'll probably wait until I have a wheel again. It's too much effort (at least for me) to be precise with a keyboard and enjoy the game at the same time. art of rally is way easier in this regard.

Yeah its pointless to play it with keyboard. You need a wheel or steam controller with gyro community config. Trust me, its much cheaper and works exactly like a wheel. Art of rally seems to be working excellent with a regular xbox controller tho.

[FALSC]

Originally posted by amos_2000:

Originally posted by FALSC:

You should maybe spend your time fixing your joystick issue, instead of whining online.

I'd rather spend my time playing a game frankly.

Apparently not

[Trog]

I totally agree, the game is almost impossible to play even with a wheel. It is so bad that I have uninstalled it. Complete waste of money.

[miketsukami bo.]

Originally posted by Trog:

I totally agree, the game is almost impossible to play even with a wheel. It is so bad that I have uninstalled it. Complete waste of money.

I don't know if this is confirmed by the devs, but according to a lot of people on the forum:
• not all steering wheels are supported
• the game is optimised for a gamepad

I, on the other hand, am used to playing with a keyboard, so I'm using a keyboard and there is still at least 1 car (usually 2 cars) in each group that I can not only drive well, but actually have fun with - that's like 15-20% of the cars in the game, which is plenty. I've been trying to get used to a gamepad for the past few days and I can confirm that even the notorious il cavallo 882 is driveable with a gamepad.

This made me realize that the issue is not the "driving gameplay", but rather the lack of more sophisticated options to tune your car, which in other games help normalize the exprience even for cars that are hard to handle.

[Jdwarfer]

If you can't succeed , don't blame the game but your lack of skills.
I struggled but happilly managed to get really good results.

I still struggle with 1990's tracks and cars. I won't blame the game... well actually I did but I have no shame to admit that I am the one to blame because I know how the game works and I know how to get used to the gameplay mechanics. It's not so hard.

And most importantly, you have choices. It's not like the game forces you to play one only way. There's a couple of parameters you can mess with to find the perfect handling for you.
And it's quite something, because the differences can be huge.

So at the end, if you still don't enjoy the game, it's simply because it's not for you. Maybe even rally games are not for you at all.
Don't you know your limits?

[秋]

they want games to just hold accelerate without the need to constantly short tap and brake alternate. scrubs will be scrubs.

[Darkling]

Originally posted by fidelio:

there are keyboard players in the top ten leaderboard standings on just about every stage in time attack, so yes, people can get good times with a keyboard.

Im on keyboard and mouse and i get top 30% pretty often. Just find a car that you mesh with and practice the games mechanics on that. It's all trial and error

[Pipps]

The gameplay is definitely a major disappointment.

[秋]

Originally posted by Pipps:

The gameplay is definitely a major disappointment.

What racing game gameplay do you prefer?

[josef733]

Whoever is complaining about the gameplay/driving just sucks at this game, simple as.