Vote Kick System is Broken

[Simos]

I really hope they eventually fix the vote kick system. I am so tired of it being abused by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and misused to assist in team changes.

One game, I come in midway apparently replacing a bot or a moron. I am sorrounded by commons and puked with no melee. Immediately, some jackass with a latin accent is screaming at me to move it. The puke wears off and the rest of the team is nowhere in sight. A few more screams and the vote kick goes up and passes. Hurray.

Next game, I auto in as survivor. Someone leaves and I end up switching to balance things. All goes well for a round or so and the game starts filling up. Someone ends up on the opposite team and says to kick me so he can switch. I am kicked with a temp ban. Good game while it lasted.

Its not a problem if I have a few friends with me, but sometimes noone is around. Obviously, there are times when having the vote kick system is beneficial. Unfortunately, its too easy to abuse at the moment. Hopefully, its fixed at some point.

[Shao]

Never that'll be fixed. That's how stupid it is. Just laugh at it, people are that stupid. I could cry for the bots that never get covered and blamed because they stay stuck behind. Nothing is that bad, it's all about the greedy players themselves.

[THEBIGREDMACHINE]

I agree that the vote kick does get abused quite a bit but what can be done about it? They can't just get rid of it. We need it there to get rid of griefers and afks. Can you imagine how bad this game would be if there was no option to kick people who come in to games just to be jerks?

[Simos]

I agree that its a necessary thing. It has been more useful than frustrating overall, but it seems to be getting worse lately. There are possible options that would discourage abuse of the vote kick mechanism.

For example, giving vote initiation a cooldown could help discourage abuse. Alternatively, limit the number of votes per game somehow - per person, per team, per chapter, etc. Including both teams in all votes might help fight abuse.

It'd require actual work and tuning to get right, so its unlikely to happen before L4D3, but maybe someone will invest the effort to fix it. It seems like it would be worth doing in the long run.

[Bikes]

Originally posted by kutchabolsofagit:

I agree that its a necessary thing. It has been more useful than frustrating overall, but it seems to be getting worse lately. There are possible options that would discourage abuse of the vote kick mechanism.

For example, giving vote initiation a cooldown could help discourage abuse. Alternatively, limit the number of votes per game somehow - per person, per team, per chapter, etc. Including both teams in all votes might help fight abuse.

It'd require actual work and tuning to get right, so its unlikely to happen before L4D3, but maybe someone will invest the effort to fix it. It seems like it would be worth doing in the long run.

There's already a cool down.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by Die_Eier_Von_Satan:

We need it there to get rid of griefers and afks. Can you imagine how bad this game would be if there was no option to kick people who come in to games just to be jerks?

The whole reason behind the vote kick system in this game. Just yesterday we kicked someone. This person had grief'd / troll a game from another day, and another time. So we vote kicked him.

[Fletch]

Great thread, I have never seen another one like this.

[Shao]

The majority of these problems are fixed with sourcemod plugins, too bad everyone's a legacy against minor change that imply's better experience, that without dlr or evilmania ridiculous changes.

[THEBIGREDMACHINE]

Originally posted by Bikes:

Originally posted by kutchabolsofagit:

For example, giving vote initiation a cooldown could help discourage abuse.

There's already a cool down.

There is? Where? Everytime I see the kick vote come up and 3 green checks go in, it takes less than 10 seconds and the person is gone.

[Bikes]

Originally posted by Die_Eier_Von_Satan:

Originally posted by Bikes:

There's already a cool down.

There is? Where? Everytime I see the kick vote come up and 3 green checks go in, it takes less than 10 seconds and the person is gone.

Why would there be a delay from the vote to kick....The delay is in starting the vote.

[THEBIGREDMACHINE]

Originally posted by Bikes:

Originally posted by Die_Eier_Von_Satan:

There is? Where? Everytime I see the kick vote come up and 3 green checks go in, it takes less than 10 seconds and the person is gone.

Why would there be a delay from the vote to kick....The delay is in starting the vote.

I think there should be a countdown clock of say 30 seconds. Once a kick vote has been called on a person, they have 30 seconds to explain what they did wrong and why. Then the other players who voted to kick could have an option to reverse the kick vote if they are satisfied with the explanation. That's the thing about the kick vote that bothers me the most. It happens so fast that you don't get a chance to ask why or plead your case to maybe stay in the game.

[Bikes]

Originally posted by Die_Eier_Von_Satan:

Originally posted by Bikes:

Why would there be a delay from the vote to kick....The delay is in starting the vote.

I think there should be a countdown clock of say 30 seconds. Once a kick vote has been called on a person, they have 30 seconds to explain what they did wrong and why. Then the other players who voted to kick could have an option to reverse the kick vote if they are satisfied with the explanation. That's the thing about the kick vote that bothers me the most. It happens so fast that you don't get a chance to ask why or plead your case to maybe stay in the game.

That would be used by people solely to grief, it's a terrible idea, there's enough people that turn hostile in the time that's already given.
That being said pleading your case is pointless, most of the people being kicked never talk anyway which is half the problem. And sure a explanation is nice, but lets face it the reason people are usually kicking is to avoid having to spend time lecturing every person that comes along, people just need to learn to be more self critical of their own gameplay, it's not that hard to notice when you're screwing up.

[Master_Builder_Max]

hey valve your games are awsome but you vote kick system in left for dead and team fortress 2 are steaming piles of garbage becuase you cant kick players on the other team the reason why thats bad is that allowes teams on verses or in tf2 to cheat in verses servivors dont play so fair okay so lets say i spawn in a verses game as a jockey and i find a servivor and he keeps nudging me with his gun as a result i cannot attack him in tf2 theres a engineer with a spawn camping sentry on the other team but you cant kick him becuase hes not on your team then theres noobs who kick others becuase there mab that you talk on your mike ot that you killed them so valve fix you vote kick system

[Master_Builder_Max]

i hate the wait time too but atleast it isnt as long as the one on ace of spades

[Restless]

Necro bump and double post, two infractions in 2 minutes. That is impressive.

edit: And a hackusation post demanding Valve 'fix' something for you. You win the forum game sir.

edit2: OH GOD, he doesn't even own the game. GG, I lose.

[bob]

Originally posted by master_builder_max:

Don't bump ancient threads, and why don't you actually play the game before making demands