End safe room supplies. ( mostly med kit discussion )

[Dr Chaos MK]

OK. So I searched the Steam forums here. And did not find a subject on this. So here we go. 1 thing that can possibly stop med kit hogging.... Why can't the items in the end safe house spawn on the NEXT stage / chapter? Would that not stop people from using excessive med kits? What do you guys think?

[Legion Main]

If you have someone that doesn't know how/care to ration health kits, youre just playing with a casual or a dumbazz.

[Tie]

I do agree that they should spawn on the next chapter, but there's a downside to that.

If you're the last man up and you need to heal and rescue your teammates, what then?
(Yes, I know players spawn with more health)

[ѴƐƦŌƝIƇΛ ✗]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

OK. So I searched the Steam forums here. And did not find a subject on this. So here we go. 1 thing that can possibly stop med kit hogging.... Why can't the items in the end safe house spawn on the NEXT stage / chapter? Would that not stop people from using excessive med kits? What do you guys think?

It could most defiitley help the probably, but it is not a 100% guaranteed solution. I say this because say youscenario has happened, and the kits do not spawn till next chapter, as soon as it load up a higger could immdeitely heal and take anothet kit, evn if they're just a second faster than their teammates. Also you have to take into account some people may take longer to lad in, so they're most likelt screwed either way.

Maybe valve should have a limit on supplis in the safe room. Like after you take one , there is no white outline on another. That would totally stop the hogging.

It's a very good topic of discussion and needs more attention!

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by ღ.:яα¢нєℓ:.ღ:

If you have someone that doesn't know how/care to ration health kits, youre just playing with a casual or a dumbazz.

Sad thing is, it happens a LOT. No matter the difficulty. Or do you not experience this Rachel?

Originally posted by Tiexie:

I do agree that they should spawn on the next chapter, but there's a downside to that.

If you're the last man up and you need to heal and rescue your teammates, what then?
(Yes, I know players spawn with more health)

Uh.... you just answered you own question. Did you not? If you make it to the end safe house & all the others are incapped, they spawn in better condition. No?

Originally posted by ♔ Veronica ♔:

It could most defiitley help the probably, but it is not a 100% guaranteed solution. I say this because say youscenario has happened, and the kits do not spawn till next chapter, as soon as it load up a higger could immdeitely heal and take anothet kit, evn if they're just a second faster than their teammates. Also you have to take into account some people may take longer to lad in, so they're most likelt screwed either way.

Maybe valve should have a limit on supplis in the safe room. Like after you take one :health:, there is no white outline on another. That would totally stop the hogging.

It's a very good topic of discussion and needs more attention!

I agree there is no 100% solution. But there HAS to be A solution. Something is better than nothing.

In regards to people loading faster. Yes let me go on the record & say that is a valid thing. However. How many of you people see people loading in more than 5 - 7 seconds later. Most of my games all the players load in around the same time. Sure some of you might not have good internet. But has it REALLY affected it THAT much? Some input would be appretiated.

And yes Veronica, a cool down on taking med kits would be a great solution. Might I recommend you send that feedback to Valve. I know I will.

[Legion Main]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Originally posted by ღ.:яα¢нєℓ:.ღ:

If you have someone that doesn't know how/care to ration health kits, youre just playing with a casual or a dumbazz.

Sad thing is, it happens a LOT. No matter the difficulty. Or do you not experience this Rachel?

Me personally i cant say that i do too often. When i do, i just chalk it up to someone not knowing any better, or just not caring because theyre casual.

[ѴƐƦŌƝIƇΛ ✗]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Originally posted by ღ.:яα¢нєℓ:.ღ:

If you have someone that doesn't know how/care to ration health kits, youre just playing with a casual or a dumbazz.

Sad thing is, it happens a LOT. No matter the difficulty. Or do you not experience this Rachel?

Originally posted by Tiexie:

I do agree that they should spawn on the next chapter, but there's a downside to that.

If you're the last man up and you need to heal and rescue your teammates, what then?
(Yes, I know players spawn with more health)

Uh.... you just answered you own question. Did you not? If you make it to the end safe house & all the others are incapped, they spawn in better condition. No?

Originally posted by ♔ Veronica ♔:

It could most defiitley help the probably, but it is not a 100% guaranteed solution. I say this because say youscenario has happened, and the kits do not spawn till next chapter, as soon as it load up a higger could immdeitely heal and take anothet kit, evn if they're just a second faster than their teammates. Also you have to take into account some people may take longer to lad in, so they're most likelt screwed either way.

Maybe valve should have a limit on supplis in the safe room. Like after you take one , there is no white outline on another. That would totally stop the hogging.

It's a very good topic of discussion and needs more attention!

I agree there is no 100% solution. But there HAS to be A solution. Something is better than nothing.

In regards to people loading faster. Yes let me go on the record & say that is a valid thing. However. How many of you people see people loading in more than 5 - 7 seconds later. Most of my games all the players load in around the same time. Sure some of you might not have good internet. But has it REALLY affected it THAT much? Some input would be appretiated.

And yes Veronica, a cool down on taking med kits would be a great solution. Might I recommend you send that feedback to Valve. I know I will.

I agree with the connection thing, that only happens occasionally. How would I go about contacting valve in the most affective way? If it's only goign to be ignored, I am not going to waste my time.

Originally posted by ღ.:яα¢нєℓ:.ღ:

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Sad thing is, it happens a LOT. No matter the difficulty. Or do you not experience this Rachel?

Me personally i cant say that i do too often. When i do, i just chalk it up to someone not knowing any better, or just not caring because theyre casual.

as for the casual players, they should try to understand for the benefit of the time. Sure they're having a good time, no harm done being considerate. I agree with you

[Lemmers]

People who load fast have SSDs, and we have our own conversations about how great they are while we wait for you HDD players to load 10-20 seconds later. Occasionally we let Raptor owners share a laugh with us too.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by ♔ Veronica ♔:

I agree with the connection thing, that only happens occasionally. How would I go about contacting valve in the most affective way? If it's only goign to be ignored, I am not going to waste my time.

1) There is a seperate Steam support web page.
2) Create a account seperate to your Steam account.
3) Select the appropriate topics and / or sub topics.
4) Write up what you want to say.
5) Send feedback.

How long it takes kind of depends on you as well. Like how much you write. How easy the subject it is for Steam to get back at you. ect... Also log back in now & then. They should respond back. I know all my support write - ups were responded back to.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by dave:

Steam should give them a time out. like the system used in cs:go

A time out for excessive med kit usage... A good idea. It might be something that might need to work up to. But a good idea none of the less.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by Lemmers:

People who load fast have SSDs, and we have our own conversations about how great they are while we wait for you HDD players to load 10-20 seconds later. Occasionally we let Raptor owners share a laugh with us too.

10 - 20 seconds later? Seriously? I have never seen that long of wait times in any of my games. Does this happen a lot Lemmers?

[ѴƐƦŌƝIƇΛ ✗]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Originally posted by ♔ Veronica ♔:

I agree with the connection thing, that only happens occasionally. How would I go about contacting valve in the most affective way? If it's only goign to be ignored, I am not going to waste my time.

1) There is a seperate Steam support web page.
2) Create a account seperate to your Steam account.
3) Select the appropriate topics and / or sub topics.
4) Write up what you want to say.
5) Send feedback.

How long it takes kind of depends on you as well. Like how much you write. How easy the subject it is for Steam to get back at you. ect... Also log back in now & then. They should respond back. I know all my support write - ups were responded back to.

Alrighty, cool thanks!

[Munkee]

Eh, Sometimes that would suck, like if I am black and white and want to save my friend who is getting swarmed. I will wanna heal then go back for them. I would just remember not to take 1 the next level.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by †Munkee_King†:

Eh, Sometimes that would suck, like if I am black and white and want to save my friend who is getting swarmed. I will wanna heal then go back for them. I would just remember not to take 1 the next level.

Which is a nice gesture Munkee. But how much of this do you see? Most of the public games I play, someone is abusing the med kits.

[Munkee]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Originally posted by †Munkee_King†:

Eh, Sometimes that would suck, like if I am black and white and want to save my friend who is getting swarmed. I will wanna heal then go back for them. I would just remember not to take 1 the next level.

Which is a nice gesture Munkee. But how much of this do you see? Most of the public games I play, someone is abusing the med kits.

I woudn't know. I don't play random often anymore since I got tired of playing with 3 deaf people. But when I do, never had people who steal medkits like a fiend. Just people who never speak or listen.

[Wufei Chang]

As others mentioned, there are times where you have to heal and/or go back out there to save your teamate. This does not happen in expert/realism often or it shouldn't happen, unless they (ones left outside) are carrying something important like a bile bomb or defib. But this does happen in Vs where the 3 or 2 out of the 4 survivors make it to safe room but may have to go back and try and save others for the addition of points (if its a close game).

Way it works, med kits spawn in the safe room, and are transfered over to the next round if they are still there, along with any items on the floor : Gas can, throwables, defib, pills (if you killed your teamate for hp). I do not think it makes much sense to have items transfer over and THEN spawn 4 med kits when its fine to just have end items spawn at the beginning (my opinion though).

Then there are times where I tell someone else to take "my kit" because I have green hp and already carrying a kit/defib/special ammo. If they put a feature in which each survivor can only grab one kit, the scenerio I just mentioned would have at least one kit unused/ungrabble by anyone but me?

I just warn them to not do that again, otherwise the kick feature comes in handy for a more direct lesson in being considerate to your teamates. I just do not see how this could be fixed since this problem lies with the player. That individual not working with his team and is concerned for his own well-being.