"Dam It" Next Big Community Update?

[BriJee]

I was surprised to see previous update and Last Stand as campaign and many other flexes made by community since many years.
Even if Last Stand is basically is alternative "ending" to Death Toll there is also one unreleased half-finished campaign which more interesting:
https://left4dead.fandom.com/wiki/Dam_It
Of cause people started to finish it by their hands and personaly i found and played both available versions:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1340024008&searchtext=dam+it
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1331957573
So... there is also some stuff that was cut for L4D2, i mostly interested in Riot Shield melee weapon and also noticed that original M1911 planned to be in DLCs:
https://tcrf.net/Left_4_Dead_2/Unused_Items
Adding (Finaly) this campaign with original pistols and 1 melee weapon will be enough for DLC.

Also personal recomendation is to rework 1st map of 'Dam It' and add police station where Survivors can meet police zombies and find Riot Shield, i pretty sure most of fans will be glad to see it.
Place the 'The Australian cricket bat' to second map in middle of park, it may be NICE easter egg (also will be cool to place somewhere of Cold Stream l4d2 campaign)
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/left4dead/images/4/4a/Cricket.jpg
Next one is to re-use l4d2 gasoline mechanics (find and fill) somewhere because l4d1 campaign was designed to use generator type events.
And about Dam itself there is 2 problems - unreal brushwork water movement (just skip the view of this and let Survivors go to the next position) and last fight feeling less emotional, as example make Dam destruction? So survivors will have less time to sit in one place and to make it fit with Blood Harvest campaign just create some type of small Safehouse (or military Van, broken Bus) right before forest.

Also noticed disputes about 'rights' for this campaign with Turtle Rock but i am pretty sure it all can be solved if so... to make the game better, story uncovered.
Can it be officially possible? Maybe people who made Last Stand Rework can say exact answer?

[HoloLiveSonic™]

I hope the riot shield blocks boomer pukes

[Eat3n]

Just make a new game.

[Olde]

The riot shield world model is incredibly bulky and would likely cause ugly collision issues in places it would spawn. It also works counter-intuitively. It's not used as a shield, but as a bashing weapon. I do think it was supposed to provide some protection when worn on the back (not sure about this) but it certainly has no protective elements when equipped.

Dam It was never finished and any fan-made completion integrated into the game officially would be considered heresy.

[RainingMetal]

I'd rather see content meant for Left 4 Dead 2 rather than continue porting over stuff from Left 4 Dead 1.

[Trunten]

And from what I remember, they even had to get rights to take over Left 4 Dead.
"Dam It" originally belonged to Turtle Rock Studios... like the original survivors.
They'd have to get the rights and permission.
Even when we got "Cold Stream" there still had to be changes.
That was why we got "Missing Content Fix" which people often misunderstand.
Content had to be cut from Cold Stream because they couldn't put sources to it.
So that mod was simply only what was removed from Cold Stream.
It helped in a lot of custom maps if it used the old beta Cold Stream assets.

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

I'd rather see content meant for Left 4 Dead 2 rather than continue porting over stuff from Left 4 Dead 1.

[Tsuey]

Originally posted by Olde:

Dam It was never finished and any fan-made completion integrated into the game officially would be considered heresy.

As they say: art is never finished, only abandoned.

[the lunch line of kamurocho]

i'd rather the next update have unique, brand new content

[s10055072]

The Riotshield would require significant re-work since it's incredibly wonky to use.

As for the "Dam It", yeah I agree, deserved to be part of the based game, however, a rework (or even re-create from scratch) is required due to its unfinished state.

Ownership issue... if I remember right, TRS states that Valve owns them, however, I am not sure.

[Trunten]

Originally posted by s10055072:

The Riotshield would require significant re-work since it's incredibly wonky to use.

As for the "Dam It", yeah I agree, deserved to be part of the based game, however, a rework (or even re-create from scratch) is required due to its unfinished state.

Ownership issue... if I remember right, TRS states that Valve owns them, however, I am not sure.

Trs at least owned dam it.
Valve would probably have to get permission.

[Trunten]

Originally posted by a:

i'd rather the next update have unique, brand new content

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[palagiboy99]

Both Dam It campaigns on the workshop have rather strange rescues. Either the APC from Blood Harvest picks you up and just leaves for some reason, or you just wander off to the start of the Woods level while an entire horde is still chasing you.

It would make more sense to have perhaps a gondola at the end of the Dam as the rescue.

Another campaign really needed is one to bridge Death Toll and Dead Air. While the first 2 maps of The Sacrifice were originally intended for this, those are no longer viable options. Somehow the survivors need to make it to the Highrise (cut survival map) and jump down to the Greenhouse using probably a Life-Net thrown down as the rescue.

[LEFT4GABEN]

If Dam It is added please remove the Cancerous Fire on Map Two. That random fire spread is complete aids especially with dumb bots. Also rework the Bridge Bombing to not be a Random Event and make it clear to the player they will be Killed if they cross the Bridge with a Dead Air Esque Plane Event once they leave saferoom and also add some meds and ammo after wading through the Water slowly under the bombed bridge because on Expert Realism the Inevitable Horde is just Brutal There. Finally, On the Finalie Map redo the Saferoom as players should be able to get all supplies in Peace and not have a horde and special timer tick down while someone who is Black an White lunges to get a Medkit...

Also, yeah I am fine with a short Highrise Map being added but Valve should be consulted maybe even have one of the Original L4D2 mappers help the Team Work on it otherwise there will be no direction and the finalie might be too cringe or not make anysense ["LOL LETS JUMP OFF A BUILDING GUIZE!!! THIS TOTALLY IS REALISTIC AND NOT LITERALLY JUMPING THE SHARK!!!"]. Honestly it would be best not to touch it without Valve.

Also add Suicide Blitz 2 as a non-canon map its just too great to not be enjoyed by casual non workshop downloading players and I really want to see constant versus matches on it... [Though Finalie "Saferoom" will need to be minorly adjusted in Versus to actaully have a Saferoom door to prevent Infinite Stalling by Survivors.]
Maybe get in contact with the Original Devs to make one last Update to the Campaign before Official Release. Not much needs to be changed especially with the Map Itself but optimization and more versus balance would be nice. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128424524&searchtext=Suicide+Blitz+2

If Damn it and Suicide Blitz 2 gets added, this game will become alot more objectively fun. And would pave the way for more and more Great Custom Maps to be added into the Official Game so everyone can enjoy it and people can play Versus on it Constantly to freshen up the Map Rotation.

[DirtyP1NK]

Dam It, trash map

[BriJee]

Dam it - is still feels ok just like other campaigns, but i agree about strange ending and weird "dam quest" with unreal blocky water.
Otherwise i still hope that this things been reworked by community and maybe one day we've get another cut-restore update but for l4d2.