Why do people judge other people's playtime hours?

[Duckilous]

Just a curious question because I witnessed people judging player's hours. (From the L4D2 SCUD Forums so far.)

Surely they shouldn't give a ♥♥♥♥ if you have a thousand hours on another Source Engine game.

[Natan]

Because it's funny.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Jair Bolsonaro:

Because it's funny.

Funny by the sounds of it.

[Legion Main]

To theoretically assess the level of their play. There are no ranks or ranked modes in this game so if a team or a person is seeking relatively experienced player to play with, they've really no other alternative than to have to judge such worth based on hours.

There can be pros with low hours and noobs with high hours, so at times the initial judgement of hours can prove erroneous yes, but that is a moot point. There is no other alternative to go by than hours, and in most instances they turn out to be accurate.

[Depsurrel]

Originally posted by Jair Bolsonaro:

Because it's funny.

[Paladyne]

As Trixie pointed out, it does provide a rough gauge of the player's (potential) skill level.

Yes, it's possible that the player has lots of time on Xbox or whatever and very little on Steam, but still knows the maps and little secrets of the game, sure.

Yes, it's also entirely true that a player can have 500 hours in the game and still not have picked up stuff that another player with only 100 hours has.

However, in the absence of any other sort of matchmaking system in place, it's the best players can do to try to ensure a relatively even matchup and weed out those who really have no business playing Versus (yet). It's probable that the player with only 30 hours logged really does have only 30 hours worth of experience and therefore probably can't pull his own weight in Versus.

I don't play very much Versus but I often do the same in campaign lobbies by looking at an unknown player's achievements while the map loads. This gives me a better idea of what to expect from the player; if I see they've only completed a couple campaigns and some of the very basic achievements, I'm more likely to stick close to them and shepherd them than I otherwise would.

[Closcer]

Make a smurf account and wow them

[Red Eclipse]

Because to the low hours = low experience. They see people with less time played as lesser teammates more likely to mess things up simply because they just don't have the skill.

Sometimes people with low hours are good, but most of the time, this rings true.

[levi]

Originally posted by Red Eclipse:

Because to the low hours = low experience. They see people with less time played as lesser teammates more likely to mess things up simply because they just don't have the skill.

Sometimes people with low hours are good, but most of the time, this rings true.

You Are Right

[Okami Gijinka]

A majority of the time, people with low hours simply show that they have less experience. People usually don't look at a person's profile for their hours, unless they've already shown poor gameplay. I don't think many people automatically assume they're bad simply from their hours.

I've seen people with 1000+ hours and only survive less than 1% of their campaigns. lol

[Lukas]

Because they think that they are the best Players just because of playing 24/7

[PeachyPynk]

Because they think they're pros with more hours.

[Utsuho 'Okuu' Reiuji]

i started an arguing about that in a post, Hours are not reliable or any kind o pre conception about hours of gameplays or achievments or even stats know for a fact that They all can be edited except hours of gameplay i believe

[soap]

Theoretically, more hours means more experience thus more skill.

which happens to be bullcrap.

[Restless]

In my over 2k hours of playing this game over almost 3 years, I have met a grand total of FOUR people with < 200 hours who were not terrible in public versus games. Three turned out to be ProMod players on smurf accounts. One was a L4D player who had recently made the switch to L4D2 after watching ProMod matches on Twitch.

Hours = experience, and generally speaking, experience = skill. This isn't really a debatable point to most people because it is common sense: the more you are exposed to something, the more familiar you are with it. The only people who do not believe in the above are casuals who "play for fun" and do not care about improving themselves. These are the same people who do not care about game mechanics enough to read or watch a guide before playing: the exact type of player who gets kicked for a variety of reasons, one probably being "having low hours".

Originally posted by CP | Felli:

i started an arguing about that in a post, Hours are not reliable or any kind o pre conception about hours of gameplays or achievments or even stats know for a fact that They all can be edited except hours of gameplay i believe

You can tell when achievements are faked, and you can tell when stats are artificially inflated. Hours played is not a foolproof metric but it is the most reliable one we have in this game.

Originally posted by DaddyLongLegs:

Theoretically, more hours means more experience thus more skill.

which happens to be bullcrap.

Why aren't you out there winning private tournaments and dominating public games?


Honestly, if you believe you are being kicked solely because you have low hours, set your profile to private. If you continue to get kicked, you'll know it is not just because of your low hours.

[Utsuho 'Okuu' Reiuji]

Originally posted by Restless:

In my over 2k hours of playing this game over almost 3 years, I have met a grand total of FOUR people with < 200 hours who were not terrible in public versus games. Three turned out to be ProMod players on smurf accounts. One was a L4D player who had recently made the switch to L4D2 after watching ProMod matches on Twitch.

Hours = experience, and generally speaking, experience = skill. This isn't really a debatable point to most people because it is common sense: the more you are exposed to something, the more familiar you are with it. The only people who do not believe in the above are casuals who "play for fun" and do not care about improving themselves. These are the same people who do not care about game mechanics enough to read or watch a guide before playing: the exact type of player who gets kicked for a variety of reasons, one probably being "having low hours".

Originally posted by CP | Felli:

i started an arguing about that in a post, Hours are not reliable or any kind o pre conception about hours of gameplays or achievments or even stats know for a fact that They all can be edited except hours of gameplay i believe

You can tell when achievements are faked, and you can tell when stats are artificially inflated. Hours played is not a foolproof metric but it is the most reliable one we have in this game.

Originally posted by DaddyLongLegs:

Theoretically, more hours means more experience thus more skill.

which happens to be bullcrap.

Why aren't you out there winning private tournaments and dominating public games?


Honestly, if you believe you are being kicked solely because you have low hours, set your profile to private. If you continue to get kicked, you'll know it is not just because of your low hours.

we should stop jugding people by play time cuz all the logic says more hours more experience, In Theory the world is pretty and nice... In Theory.
we should stop jugding the book for its cover and jugding someone by play time is just that
and no you can't tell if someone cheated on achievments unless a dumb one unlock every at same time wich is dumb and also infalte way too mch the stats. THEORIES are nice but this is reality