Why do so few people play Expert - Realism

[ReaperOfDeath]

Expert Realism is probably the best thing about L4D2, and next to no one plays it.

Why is this? I don't understand how people like playing campaigns on other difficulty levels knowing they have like next to no chance of losing the game.

[bob]

There's plenty, just not many in your area. Most realism players seem to be in USA, Brazil, and Russia.

[Restless]

Playing it in public matches is just masochism. The people who are capable of Expert Realism get their achievement and don't play it again, or they only play it with friends. 1.8% of people who own L4D2 have the achievement. 1.6% of people who own L4D2 have the achievement to complete all campaigns on Expert. The vast majority of players do not have the skill and/or patience to play on Expert. Advanced is good balance of difficult yet fun, although there is very little chance of losing the game unless you have a really new team.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by Restless:

Playing it in public matches is just masochism. The people who are capable of Expert Realism get their achievement and don't play it again, or they only play it with friends. 1.8% of people who own L4D2 have the achievement. 1.6% of people who own L4D2 have the achievement to complete all campaigns on Expert. The vast majority of players do not have the skill and/or patience to play on Expert. Advanced is good balance of difficult yet fun, although there is very little chance of losing the game unless you have a really new team.

Same here. I got my Expert achievements LONG ago. I only repeat them when friends wanted to go for them. I never did public expert. Why should I? I am not obligated to help others.

[CoryStar]

Greifers.

I never start my own Expert/E.Realism games anymore, because of them.
So sick of getting 2-3 maps into a campaign, then having some random person join and start team killing.

[Betty Cupcake]

I like playing expert. I'm not the greatest but I don't suck. But expert realism is harder so it's rare I'll play that mode. Friends have no interest in playing expert, let alone realism, so no one to even play with to practice.

[ReaperOfDeath]

Yeh I was just playing, finally got a game, and everyone were greifing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who don't understand what expert means.

[Butters]

Plenty groups show up in a search. Here's the one with most members:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2-RealismExpert

I played a few advanced games, got my ass trolled hard.

[bob]

Eh, that's a little harsh on public games. I have about 2,000 hours in expert realism only, a good bit of that is in public games. There are griefers and trolls, but they aren't really that many; if you end up with at least 1 other good person, you'll be fine. Change your download location to find more games, there should be plenty in the usa right now if you don't mind a bit of lag. It's always fun playing with other people, it doesn't have to be helping them or anything.

[Dead King]

I just got done playing an entire Campaign (The Parish) on Expert Realism, and I didn't get any progress toward the Still Something to Prove Achievement or The Real Deal achievement. You can imagine how disappointed I felt after spending an hour and a half and not get the achievement I had been working towards.. I don't mean to sound like a whining b****, but I just want to know if anyone can explain why I didn't get the achievement.

[Restless]

Originally posted by Dead King1007:

I just got done playing an entire Campaign (The Parish) on Expert Realism, and I didn't get any progress toward the Still Something to Prove Achievement or The Real Deal achievement. You can imagine how disappointed I felt after spending an hour and a half and not get the achievement I had been working towards.. I don't mean to sound like a whining b****, but I just want to know if anyone can explain why I didn't get the achievement.

You should be there from lobby to finale. You must survive the finale map. You cannot have gone idle in the middle, nor can your teammates open safe room doors before you have fully loaded into the game each map. There are a few more reasons why the achievement may have bugged out, but these are the major reasons why most people don't get the achievement.

[⛧]

It's probably because Realism Expert is a mode that requires superior positioning than the regular expert version. There are quite the number of players out there who are pretty good at Realism Expert but who mostly play with folks they know.

The casuals who do Realism Expert are usually unaware of the need to use melee at a special that is close, rather than simply shooting at everything in eye-sight. In addition, most players over-look the importance of melee weapons, are really bad at pushing commons that are about to hit their team-mates, and tend to be easily distracted by all of the infected swarming. It takes a certain tier of skill to be able to handle being boomed and working in tandem with each other to make sure no one gets hurt. Typically, players run like chickens with their heads cut off, rather than circling and enforcing a defensible perimeter of mutual concern.

Realism expert is certainly active, just not as large as campaign mode expert. It is also a smaller community, and sustains itself more upon companionship than randomized members. To get games in realism expert, just make waves in whatever way you imagine viable and go from there.

[Butters]

Originally posted by Restless:

You should be there from lobby to finale.

I got mine without starting from lobby. I joined when it was in game but maybe loaded in before the team moved out.

[alecandstuff]

I would love for queues to be smaller for Expert Realism. But realistically, the game has become more and more of a casual game over the years it seems. There's still a hardcore crowd out there, it's just not as big

[kesuga7]

i think its because the playstyles is realism expert and versus are very different

versus involves moving as fast as posssible to avoid the special infected spawns while realism expert forces you to look around the map for items without being able to just wipe through the map as easily

Realism versus is far more rare from what iv seen :*(

[姚 煒 達]

yes