L4D2 Expert All 5 Campaigns No Glitches Speedrun - 1:21:50

[.Dawkins- †]

We were inspired by the AGDQ speedrun and were dissatisfied with some of the things they said and the way they represented the L4D2 community. We are 4 people from a NA competitive L4D2 team, and we decided to try our hand at their time except with no glitches/skips and on expert difficulty (I understand glitches are just a part of speedruns). The AGDQ speedrun time was around 1:11:00, or so I've been told. We finished at 1:21:50. It was lots of fun to play, hope you enjoy watching it!

http://www.twitch.tv/dawkins154/v/33676030

[sʜᴀ]

Decent (and fun) run, gg.
Would kill K3 again.

[Tie]

Saw this the other day, would've beat 'em if they weren't on Easy using exploits!

[Dr Chaos MK]

This proves that rushing is a valid way to play. Nicely done Dawkins. I can't wait to see the haters come to this thread & say things like:

1) " Oh you exploited a weakness in the game engine on limiting commons spawning. "
2) " You are just encouraging people to rush. Now it's going to ruin public campaign games. "
3) " This playstyle is wrong ! "

This thread might potentially be entertaining for me.

[josh]

What did the AGDQ group say and how did they misrepresent the community? I'm genuinely curious, as I didn't see it.

And Dr Chaos MK, rushing is perfectly valid for a team that knows what they are doing. Rushing in a PUG usually leads to a wipe, followed by explitives and kicking. :D

[Restless]

Originally posted by StuckInMyPants:

What did the AGDQ group say and how did they misrepresent the community? I'm genuinely curious, as I didn't see it.

And Dr Chaos MK, rushing is perfectly valid for a team that knows what they are doing. Rushing in a PUG usually leads to a wipe, followed by explitives and kicking. :D

Some gems...

'L4D2 is not like other Source runs. You're not going to see us jump around. We could, but its harder.'

'Melee weapons are useless'

'Sometimes there will be 20 Smokers around the corner.'

Runner starts run by missing spitter point blank with pistol, gets boomed and horded and barely makes it into safe room on Dead Center map one. M2s Witch when surprised. Entire run played on Easy difficulty, on a older patch version of the game so that they could bug every defense finale using glitch/god spots. At one point during the run they actually got lost...

Originally posted by Greg:

Checked you L4D2 stats. 100% finales survived, like how in the actual ♥♥♥♥?! Amazing.

The stats tracked by the game are buggy as hell. Even if you exclusively play Versus, your survival % will increase.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by StuckInMyPants:

Rushing in a PUG usually leads to a wipe, followed by explitives and kicking. :D

Yet it does not need to happen. Look at the entire video. Not all of them make it alive to the safe house on some stages / chapters. Keep in mind they are playing on Expert. My PUG games are Normal or Advanced. Yet most people there just poop the bed lacking common sense. I am not asking for bunny hopping & other things Dawkins & his team did. Just use your head & be aware of your surroundings.

Originally posted by Greg:

Checked you L4D2 stats. 100% finales survived, like how in the actual ♥♥♥♥?! Amazing.

I have 100 % as well. Not too difficult to do. Know your limits ( I stay away from public Expert games. ) & don't quit games. There is also a glitch on The Sacrifice finale how it works for that stat. But in general if you hang in there & don't quit games, you can easily keep 100 %.

[bob]

The 100% survival finale stats thing is a glitch. I have a friend who has it too, even though she just died in a rescue with me the other day.

Good runs.

[Clementine*]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

This proves that rushing is a valid way to play. Nicely done Dawkins. I can't wait to see the haters come to this thread & say things like:

1) " Oh you exploited a weakness in the game engine on limiting commons spawning. "
2) " You are just encouraging people to rush. Now it's going to ruin public campaign games. "
3) " This playstyle is wrong ! "

This thread might potentially be entertaining for me.

Rushing is a valid way to play if all players rushing together but you rush by yourself or with a friend even if other people don't want to.
This is the big difference between rushing and trolling.

[lol.Killer5^p [no monitor]]

Cool run Dawkins.

the agdq run was interesting to watch.. kind of. My friends and I normally stick to natural route for levels. Seen that molotov jump to skip a section of the 2nd level of Dark Carnival was cool.

Wish that the run they did wasnt on easy because it was painful to watch some sections. Should have been expert or something.

Also wish that they all knew how to bhop. Would have been able to beat levels faster.

My favorite quote was "Cant use scrollwheel to bhop"

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by Ⓒ-ⓛⓔⓜⓔⓝⓣⓘⓝⓔ:

Rushing is a valid way to play if all players rushing together but you rush by yourself or with a friend even if other people don't want to. This is the big difference between rushing and trolling.

Well that is what the vote kick is for. If people don't like the way I play, they are more than welcome to use the system that is within L4D 2.

In this case Red Umbrella . . . or R Clement now that you switched your name, how you define trolling is a opinion that can be different from person to person. While is respect it, fact is trolling by definition is something that is 100 % negative towards other players in a online game. Friendly fire to incap and / or kill someone is 100 % negative because there is NO benefit. Rushing is not. Rushing has benefits to the team. If a person gets angry, then it's because he or she does not understand and / or wants to accept that there is another way to play that can be potentially positive.

Trolling is also defined by developer too. BLIZZARD & E.A enforce there own rules in World of Warcraft & Star Wars: ToR in the Terms of Service & ban people when they break them. I am pretty sure Valve hands out bans if someone gets out - of - hand as well. & since I have NEVER been banned from L4D 2, it goes to show I follow the Terms of Service & Steam Online conduct.

[bob]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Originally posted by Ⓒ-ⓛⓔⓜⓔⓝⓣⓘⓝⓔ:

Rushing is a valid way to play if all players rushing together but you rush by yourself or with a friend even if other people don't want to. This is the big difference between rushing and trolling.

Well that is what the vote kick is for. If people don't like the way I play, they are more than welcome to use the system that is within L4D 2.

In this case Red Umbrella . . . or R Clement now that you switched your name, how you define trolling is a opinion that can be different from person to person. While is respect it, fact is trolling by definition is something that is 100 % negative towards other players in a online game.

lol totally legit to make up definitions to support your in game behavior. So is TKing okay as long as I say ma'am and sir to them during it? It is not 100% negative then.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by linux is for girls:

lol totally legit to make up definitions to support your in game behavior. So is TKing okay as long as I say ma'am and sir to them during it? It is not 100% negative then.

Not making up anything Linux. I have seen other people get banned from WoW & Star Wars: ToR. I would send a report on them. Some did not get banned. But there were some people that DID get banned. That being said, I am sure some people did report me for something. However. Did Valve take away me playing L4D 2 ? Never.

Like I said about TK'ing / friendly fire. It is 100 % negative in public games. Just because you said something nice before you did the bad act does not make it beneficial.

[Clementine*]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Originally posted by Ⓒ-ⓛⓔⓜⓔⓝⓣⓘⓝⓔ:

Rushing is a valid way to play if all players rushing together but you rush by yourself or with a friend even if other people don't want to. This is the big difference between rushing and trolling.

Well that is what the vote kick is for. If people don't like the way I play, they are more than welcome to use the system that is within L4D 2.

In this case Red Umbrella . . . or R Clement now that you switched your name, how you define trolling is a opinion that can be different from person to person. While is respect it, fact is trolling by definition is something that is 100 % negative towards other players in a online game. Friendly fire to incap and / or kill someone is 100 % negative because there is NO benefit. Rushing is not. Rushing has benefits to the team. If a person gets angry, then it's because he or she does not understand and / or wants to accept that there is another way to play that can be potentially positive.

Trolling is also defined by developer too. BLIZZARD & E.A enforce there own rules in World of Warcraft & Star Wars: ToR in the Terms of Service & ban people when they break them. I am pretty sure Valve hands out bans if someone gets out - of - hand as well. & since I have NEVER been banned from L4D 2, it goes to show I follow the Terms of Service & Steam Online conduct.

You mentioned that troll is something that negative towards other players in online game.
If you rush by youself or with a friend even if other people don't want to it is nagative toward other people.
Let me explain to your level.
4 - 1 = 3
4 - 2 = 2

You still don't get it do you. lol

[bob]

Originally posted by Dr Chaos MK:

Originally posted by linux is for girls:

lol totally legit to make up definitions to support your in game behavior. So is TKing okay as long as I say ma'am and sir to them during it? It is not 100% negative then.

Not making up anything Linux. I have seen other people get banned from WoW & Star Wars: ToR. I would send a report on them. Some did not get banned. But there were some people that DID get banned. That being said, I am sure some people did report me for something. However. Did Valve take away me playing L4D 2 ? Never.

Bob got arrested for heroin possession but not for teamkilling in public games therefore he did nothing wrong. Great logic

Like I said about TK'ing / friendly fire. It is 100 % negative in public games. Just because you said something nice before you did the bad act does not make it beneficial.

I'm just following your reasoning. Is TKing okay if you only TK 1 person? Then it's only 33% negative.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Originally posted by Ⓒ-ⓛⓔⓜⓔⓝⓣⓘⓝⓔ:

You mentioned that troll is something that negative towards other players in online game.
If you rush by youself or with a friend even if other people don't want to it is nagative toward other people.
Let me explain to your level.
4 - 1 = 3
4 - 2 = 2

You still don't get it do you. lol

Those people that " think " it's negative don't understand the aspect of rushing. So no, it's NOT negative towards them.

4 - 1 = 3. Well if that happens they can always do a vote kick. Like I said, if the majority in a game do not want me in longer they can vote. Of course if it passes or not is something entirely different.

4 - 2 = 2. Is 50 / 50. Meaning the vote still might or might not go through.

I still don't get it ? Oh . . . I KNOW I understand FULLY. Say what you want, I am still playing L4D 2. Valve has not banned me. & I will let you know if & when I do get vote kicked. That way you can then say how right you are. Until then though . . . well you really can't do anything. You can spout all the points you want Red Umbrella. But talk is cheap as they say. Actions speak louder than words. So until you can influence Valve to ban me and / or stop me from rushing, anything you say is really nothing but useless hot air. No offense.