Bile bomb and Molotov on a tank.

[tiberiansun371alexw]

So my teamw as on swamp fever and someone threw a bile bomb at the tank and another persont hrew a molotov at the mob. 3 seconds later a burning jockey jumped on someone and ultimatly led to incapacitation. Does the bile bomb do anything useful on an AI controlled tank? As far as I could tell it just attracted a mob which didn't stop tha tank.

[sʜᴀ]

Цитата допису angelo:

he wont die but still run towards the boomed infected (survivor you mean?) and luring everything to him

Ai tank runs at the one he has in sight, he doesn't focus the boomed one.
So as long as he isn't in front of the tank, he will be safe from the commons.

also all the commons running around hthe tank can make people get stuck.

It's really rare to get blocked by the mob that attacks a tank, it only happens if you touch them when they run (just bash and keep enough space between you and them).

and theres no 50\50 stats, they attack whoever is closer, you dont believe me? here http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=594830762 coach was boomed, threw a bile to the tank, nothing happened because the commons where already too close to coach.

Because commons were already attacking him. If he had shoved them away, most of them would have attacked the tank instead of going back to Coach.

[Visi]

Цитата допису Peshmelba:

Цитата допису angelo:

he wont die but still run towards the boomed infected (survivor you mean?) and luring everything to him

Ai tank runs at the one he has in sight, he doesn't focus the boomed one.
So as long as he isn't in front of the tank, he will be safe from the commons.

also all the commons running around hthe tank can make people get stuck.

It's really rare to get blocked by the mob that attacks a tank, it only happens if you touch them when they run (just bash and keep enough space between you and them).

and theres no 50\50 stats, they attack whoever is closer, you dont believe me? here http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=594830762 coach was boomed, threw a bile to the tank, nothing happened because the commons where already too close to coach.

Because commons were already attacking him. If he had shoved them away, most of them would have attacked the tank instead of going back to Coach.

AI tanks are drawn to boomed survivors. With over 1k hours, how do you not know this?

Biling the tank is a bad idea in all but a few select scenarios.

[DrunkenQueen]

Depends situation, but mostly don't do that as you don't want fighting hordes and tank at the same time.
Hordes can slow the tank down though.

I mostly use the Bile bomb for escaping in Hard Rain. I threw it on the Tank to slow him down, thus we all can make to the boat before the tank came to us.

[泡泡oοО]

so difficult

[Crokite]

why not just burn the tank or nuke it or ignore it?. Imo bile are as useful as when you get puke down by boomer and someone throw a bile in confusion thinking it will help.

[bob]

Biling a tank does minimal damage to the tank; if you're on easy or normal difficulty it's a reasonable amount of damage, but anything above that the common don't do enough damage to the tank that he dies, so that you end up with a tank plus a horde, which itself gets exponentially more troubling to your team in the higher difficulties, with difficulties as the common are doing increased damage to you and with realism as it's harder to kill the common. Tank + horde == almost certain death on expert realism. You can effectively bile a tank to slow him down on higher difficulties, though, as in when you're biling and running from him.

If you throw fire at a biled tank or shoot him you're doing the most retarded thing ever - you're killing the common infected that would slow him down and deal damage, so you're effectively creating a horde with no extra damage to tank, congrats. And yes you see this on expert realism a lot by realism noobs who are the most eager to do stupid things to screw up your game and then cry about your lack of skills or rage quit after they've caused yet another restart.

Цитата допису angelo:

So throwing a bile to the tank its never a good idea whatever the situation is, if theres a horde with the tank and you have a bile throw it behind, to the sides, the air, whatever the ♥♥♥♥ you want, just don throw it to the tank or in front of your way, jesus christ, people in expert or realism will instakick someone if they do something like that.

lol i wish

[sʜᴀ]

Цитата допису Visi:

AI tanks are drawn to boomed survivors. With over 1k hours, how do you not know this?

Sorry I mostly play Versus, so AI tanks are quite rare in there.
But still : http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/The_Tank#Repelling_a_Tank

When one or more Survivors are covered in Boomer Bile, Tanks will usually choose them as his first target/s. It is still still possible to force the Tank to focus on you, however.

So there is always a backup strat if you know how to take a tank's focus (i.e with melee) or if the tank simply choose an other target.

I've still noticed it a few times when fighting AI tanks. When a survivor get boomed, it's most of the time valuable to bile the tank and take his focus, so the boomed survivor can cover himself easily.

[tiberiansun371alexw]

Цитата допису Peshmelba:

I've still noticed it a few times when fighting AI tanks. When a survivor get boomed, it's most of the time valuable to bile the tank and take his focus, so the boomed survivor can cover himself easily.

So bascially, if a survivor is boomed, it is probably be worth biling tha tank. but in my example when nobody was biled, it isn't worth biling the tank?

[sʜᴀ]

In your example it's not worthy.
It might only be worthy when some survivors are boomed, or when the tank is far enough from you to be slowed down during the mob rush, allowing you to get some distance and be safer from it (as long as you can handle the mob after the tank is cleared from bile).
Furthermore, it's often really worthy to bile a tank if he hasn't started to attack yet, as the bile bomb won't trigger the tank : he will stay idle, getting hit by commons and his health will get from half to 0 (depending on the difficulty).

[angelo]

Цитата допису Peshmelba:

Furthermore, it's often really worthy to bile a tank if he hasn't started to attack yet, as the bile bomb won't trigger the tank : he will stay idle, getting hit by commons and his health will get from half to 0 (depending on the difficulty).

the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about? the bile WILL trigger him, even shot him by mistake through a wall will trigger him.
in some small halls all the commons will run to the tank and block the players if they are trying to run to an open area to fight the tank.
do you have any idea how anything in this game works? even people with 50 hours knows how easy it is get stuck with commons.

Цитата допису tiberiansun371alexw:

So bascially, if a survivor is boomed, it is probably be worth biling tha tank. but in my example when nobody was biled, it isn't worth biling the tank?

if someone is boomed and a tank spawns you should focus on dealing with the horde asap, use pipes or molly's, biles are quite rare thats why they shouldnt be used like that.
in your example the only thing that you did was waste a bile, all the commons died with the fire so nothing really happened

[BubblestationCPH]

no, bile will not trigger tank. a shot throug a wall will. and who in their right mind fight a tank in a small hall? just drop the bile and step aside so horde can pass. if tank is triggered fall back to an open area.

who will trigger a tank when someone is boomed? thats just mental. not saying it cannot happen but its just meh gameplay.

what could happen is someone gets boomed while tank is alrdy attacking. thats common and prolly one of the deadliest combos in the game. if tank is on fire its still not 100 % useless to bile the tank as defense cus of the hordesplit. the commons will burn but the boomed player will have an easier time getting away/find a corner etc- the commons die and voila!

[sʜᴀ]

Цитата допису angelo:

the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about? the bile WILL trigger him, even shot him by mistake through a wall will trigger him.

Well ...
http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/The_Tank#Repelling_a_Tank

In Left 4 Dead 2, it is possible to cover a Tank in bile without alerting him, and so he will not attack the Survivors as the Common Infected attempt to tear him apart. This can be extremely useful on Expert when your team is on a critical stage or low on health. Don't expect the Common Infected to help you though; they will stop attacking after a while and if they fail to kill it, they will attack you and may easily overwhelm your team.

I've seen this happen a while ago.

Цитата допису angelo:

do you have any idea how anything in this game works? even people with 50 hours knows how easy it is get stuck with commons.

And people with more than 50 hours will know that you can dodge them by running from side to side and bashing them at the right moment. It's really easy when commons are focused on a bile or a pipe.

[76561198196437442]

If you throw the bile at the Tank the zombies attack it but can't kill.
The problem is when the bile expire it comes after you.
Now you have to deal with Tank and zombies.
Good Luck!!

[bob]

Цитата допису angelo:

Цитата допису Peshmelba:

Furthermore, it's often really worthy to bile a tank if he hasn't started to attack yet, as the bile bomb won't trigger the tank : he will stay idle, getting hit by commons and his health will get from half to 0 (depending on the difficulty).

the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about? the bile WILL trigger him, even shot him by mistake through a wall will trigger him.
in some small halls all the commons will run to the tank and block the players if they are trying to run to an open area to fight the tank.
do you have any idea how anything in this game works? even people with 50 hours knows how easy it is get stuck with commons.

https://youtu.be/Dc_hIZ5becw?t=11m13s Tank body is shown around 13:05 or so

[angelo]

Цитата допису BubblestationCPH:

no, bile will not trigger tank. a shot throug a wall will. and who in their right mind fight a tank in a small hall? just drop the bile and step aside so horde can pass. if tank is triggered fall back to an open area.

who will trigger a tank when someone is boomed? thats just mental. not saying it cannot happen but its just meh gameplay.

welp thats actually right so sorry about that, still had to restart c2m2 like 10 times so i could check it, so i dont think its something real viable.
And i was thinking on versus when everybody is focus in the tank and boomer spawns and bile someone or new players in campaing that run in front without paying attention

Цитата допису Peshmelba:

And people with more than 50 hours will know that you can dodge them by running from side to side and bashing them at the right moment. It's really easy when commons are focused on a bile or a pipe.

thats why i said in "small halls", commons will still attack you if youre in their range http://i.imgur.com/G2mWnal.gifv
also you cant clip through then so they can easily block doors