Nerfing the AK

[Witch]

We all know that the AK-47 is the most broken gun in l4d2, hands down. Valve's way of keeping this weapon in check was to give it a slower firing speed, but that hasn't accomplished anything, since it makes hardly a difference. so what if we hammered the firing speed even more? would that be ideal?

[kurochama]

I think what makes ak in L4D2 still strong enough is because of its unreal accuracy. In CS, you can't even shoot properly with ak if you just hold fire button as the accuracy is like a joke even by crouching, because it's only accurate in first 3-5 rapid shots. But here in L4D2, it's still accurate enough to shoot zombies by holding fire button.

[supersand]

Fix the accuracy and make it so it doesn't have pinpoint accuracy when crouching / not moving. Its literally only good because the accuracy stat doesn't function as it should. Its supposed to be a strong but inaccurate gun but its not inaccurate at all unless you full auto. As mentioned above its still pretty acceptable even when full auto.

Remove other features it has too, like does it really need to stun a witch on headshot like a sniper does? Thats just powercreep.

Finally, increase the reload time. Damage and Firerate do not need to be changed if the gun misses more often and reloads are longer. The only time the gun should be somewhat accurate is when it has a laser and even then it should function basically how it functions unlasered right now.

This would ideally put it on the same level as the SCAR, which is sleeper OP but players don't like the icky 3 shot burst cause muh overkill

[LotusM]

Did I just read this right? The AK? Most broken gun in L4D2?

xD

[sʜᴀ]

Keep as is but halve the ammo pool.
Maybe more recoil shouldn't be too harsh

[clover <3]

Originally posted by LotusMaze:

Did I just read this right? The AK? Most broken gun in L4D2?

xD

yea i feel like the hunting rifle and mil sniper are better

[geordiebroon58]

if it was slower it just wouldnt feel good to use regardless of balance, it would be similar to using the knife early last stand

its important for a weapon to be fun and fair it would make more sense to nerf the dps over damage. alternativly could try making other rifles more appealing, m16 maybe more accuracy, that way you dont have to stop and shoot a target like the ak does

(yes i know that would cause problems of T2 being too busted in general but eh it already is )

just because it works doesnt mean its a good way to go about things

[geordiebroon58]

Originally posted by citrussy <3:

Originally posted by LotusMaze:

Did I just read this right? The AK? Most broken gun in L4D2?

xD

yea i feel like the hunting rifle and mil sniper are better

i mean yea but they atleast take proper aim and focus to preform well with anyone can just grab the ak and preform well, not to mention that if you are playing defensive then the snipers arent good for defence in general

snipers especially hunting is good for special control and at least narrow areas good against hordes but isnt te easiest to clear an area with when you dont ave that conviennt chokepoint (not that melee weapons dont exist and counteract that)

but yea ak is kinda overrated not that it isnt a solid weapon for any situation but people exagerate its strength a little bit too much

[geordiebroon58]

Originally posted by supersand:

Fix the accuracy and make it so it doesn't have pinpoint accuracy when crouching / not moving. Its literally only good because the accuracy stat doesn't function as it should. Its supposed to be a strong but inaccurate gun but its not inaccurate at all unless you full auto. As mentioned above its still pretty acceptable even when full auto.

Remove other features it has too, like does it really need to stun a witch on headshot like a sniper does? Thats just powercreep.

Finally, increase the reload time. Damage and Firerate do not need to be changed if the gun misses more often and reloads are longer. The only time the gun should be somewhat accurate is when it has a laser and even then it should function basically how it functions unlasered right now.

This would ideally put it on the same level as the SCAR, which is sleeper OP but players don't like the icky 3 shot burst cause muh overkill

i mean the whole not moving thing to get full accuracy is just the rules of the game in general and dont think this should ever change and i do kinda think being stationery especially when crouching is bit of a punishment however not enough to make up for its strengths

i think just lowering damage a little is the way to go its dps is just too high for anything else to compete find some middle ground between the m16 and current ak

also why can it headshot stun witches

[Shin Navideño]

There's literally no reason to use it, only the spas and military and even that IS coping HARD because is outclassed by 4 ak

[Sharkzilla]

would have preferred if the AK dealt 49 damage instead of 58 and maybe slightly increase the recoil and inaccuracy that's all

[Mina]

It should just follow realism against zombies

[The Fear]

nah i like the AK how it is, very fun to just 1 tap common infected, if you're talking versus tho shouldn't be nerfed. they need to spawn a tank every chapter and buff tank HP, tier 2 weapons completely melt tanks forcing tanks to be very passive and spam rocks from the roof. also noobs just run straight in there while team is on respawn timer and die within 10 seconds, so buffing tank HP would help a bit

[bluefalcon74.ttv]

Nerf the AK and autoshotties just so that people are forced to play outside their comfort zone. In reality, the shotties are the most over-used due to console "gamers"

[ramcer]

Originally posted by Witch:

We all know that the AK-47 is the most broken gun in l4d2, hands down. Valve's way of keeping this weapon in check was to give it a slower firing speed, but that hasn't accomplished anything, since it makes hardly a difference. so what if we hammered the firing speed even more? would that be ideal?

Well i mean yeah as a person who uses dot crosshairs Its even more broken for me

[bluefalcon74.ttv]

I'll destroy you online and I don't need a single mod