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help me like zoey
i dont hate zoey or anything i just think she's mid. can someone explain to me why so many people like her minus the weird coomer stuff

actually it appears the only reason zoey has fans is because of weird coomer stuff and i have decided that i hate all of you
Laatst bewerkt door charbway; 16 feb 2024 om 9:43
Origineel geplaatst door The Virgin Nick:
Origineel geplaatst door Fizzarolli:
Origineel geplaatst door mpilobrooklyn0:
yes. they only like zoey because she is hot. that's it.
Shes not even that hot
The fact that yall are bringing up her looks is crazy, I think you guys are forgetting that her face is based on a real person.

(not u specifically, this also goes toward the people drooling and over sexualizing her aswell.)
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Origineel geplaatst door Fizzarolli:
Shes not even that hot
The fact that yall are bringing up her looks is crazy, I think you guys are forgetting that her face is based on a real person.

(not u specifically, this also goes toward the people drooling and over sexualizing her aswell.)
no yeah this is another reason i think the coomer ♥♥♥♥ is weird
Origineel geplaatst door ah... i see...:
... actually it appears the only reason zoey has fans is because of weird coomer stuff and i have decided that i hate all of you

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Origineel geplaatst door Fizzarolli:
Shes not even that hot
The fact that yall are bringing up her looks is crazy, I think you guys are forgetting that her face is based on a real person.

(not u specifically, this also goes toward the people drooling and over sexualizing her aswell.)
Right except the person her face is based off, as with all the survivors, is quite literally a model, whose job it is to look attractive.
I really hated Rochelle because her laugh was like nails on a chalkboard. After 10 years, I find her okayish now.
Aside from the people who play as her because shes the only female in the L4D1 group, theres no reason people like her other than coomer ♥♥♥♥.

no other survivor fan base creates massive amounts of porn related to their favourite survivor, including SFM animations, entire comics, and 10 page fan fictions

no other survivor fan base defends their favourite survivor viciously and attacks anybody who says something negative about them

no other survivor fan base floods the workshop with NSFW mods, or makes loads of NSFW mods that arent very obviously just jokes (things like sexy legs coach are clearly taking the piss)

no other survivor fan base spams pictures of the face model and cosplayers of their favourite survivor in the art forum with the title just being "Zoey :heartemoticon:", with no context or relevancy to it

search up each survivor on google and go to images. Zoey is the only one for whom safe search is on by default. Thats how much ♥♥♥♥ people have made of her, and how prevalent it is.
Origineel geplaatst door Geebanger0:
Aside from the people who play as her because shes the only female in the L4D1 group, theres no reason people like her other than coomer ♥♥♥♥.

no other survivor fan base creates massive amounts of porn related to their favourite survivor, including SFM animations, entire comics, and 10 page fan fictions

no other survivor fan base defends their favourite survivor viciously and attacks anybody who says something negative about them

no other survivor fan base floods the workshop with NSFW mods, or makes loads of NSFW mods that arent very obviously just jokes (things like sexy legs coach are clearly taking the piss)

no other survivor fan base spams pictures of the face model and cosplayers of their favourite survivor in the art forum with the title just being "Zoey :heartemoticon:", with no context or relevancy to it

search up each survivor on google and go to images. Zoey is the only one for whom safe search is on by default. Thats how much ♥♥♥♥ people have made of her, and how prevalent it is.
Very well said.
Origineel geplaatst door Witch:
Origineel geplaatst door Geebanger0:
Aside from the people who play as her because shes the only female in the L4D1 group, theres no reason people like her other than coomer ♥♥♥♥.

no other survivor fan base creates massive amounts of porn related to their favourite survivor, including SFM animations, entire comics, and 10 page fan fictions

no other survivor fan base defends their favourite survivor viciously and attacks anybody who says something negative about them

no other survivor fan base floods the workshop with NSFW mods, or makes loads of NSFW mods that arent very obviously just jokes (things like sexy legs coach are clearly taking the piss)

no other survivor fan base spams pictures of the face model and cosplayers of their favourite survivor in the art forum with the title just being "Zoey :heartemoticon:", with no context or relevancy to it

search up each survivor on google and go to images. Zoey is the only one for whom safe search is on by default. Thats how much ♥♥♥♥ people have made of her, and how prevalent it is.
Very well said.

much obliged :VBCOOL:
Origineel geplaatst door Geebanger0:
Aside from the people who play as her because shes the only female in the L4D1 group, theres no reason people like her other than coomer ♥♥♥♥.

no other survivor fan base creates massive amounts of porn related to their favourite survivor, including SFM animations, entire comics, and 10 page fan fictions

no other survivor fan base defends their favourite survivor viciously and attacks anybody who says something negative about them

no other survivor fan base floods the workshop with NSFW mods, or makes loads of NSFW mods that arent very obviously just jokes (things like sexy legs coach are clearly taking the piss)

no other survivor fan base spams pictures of the face model and cosplayers of their favourite survivor in the art forum with the title just being "Zoey :heartemoticon:", with no context or relevancy to it

search up each survivor on google and go to images. Zoey is the only one for whom safe search is on by default. Thats how much ♥♥♥♥ people have made of her, and how prevalent it is.
People who favor her is because they just like her character or like you mentioned play as her because she is female(which most female players tend to do). A minority is because of sexualization. and if it is for nsfw purposes it's not the characters fault.

This is true but I still fail to see fault in her character. Her ingame literally has more clothes on than Rochelle does and she obviously isnt your typical girly girl either. I blame the male dominated side of the game for this seeing how they are the ones making all of the nsfw and they're only really doing it because shes a girl. You guys hate her so much for this but it's quite literally not her fault. Theres a bit nsfw of the witch too due to her in the first game being the only female infected. Its literally because they were the first females that they were sexualized. Females in video games tend to unfortunately get a bunch of nsfw of them even if they're fully dressed like zoey is.

I'd say maybe before yes but now if anybody said anything bad about any survivor (especially coach) they'd get attacked for it. Zoey I feel like alot of people hate her nowadays for reasons that she cannot control and probably less likely to be defended now.

This is true I agree she has alot of nsfw mods but is that really her characters fault or her fans? you can separate the fans from the character and even sympathize with the character and her sexualization.

The spam posts are most likely for award grabs. Most cosplays or images posted are just reposts of someone else's work. They don't necessarily have to be fans of zoey they just may know shes considered a favorite and post her for awards.

I'd like to argue not with the survivor bit but the witch when I searched Is pretty sexualized too, take this into consideration that both zoey and the witch were the first females and that's most likely why they're even sexualized to begin with.

I get it if you dont like her character, maybe shes boring to you yk like that's normal but blaming and hating her for her sexualization is weird I'm not gonna lie it feels like victim blaming a bit considering it's not like shes the one presenting herself as someone who wants to be sexualized she's quite literally just a girl.

Is there a reason why you HATE her other than her creepy fans? I mean I know you've made posts and mods getting rid of her so theres gotta be a different reason right?? I can't help but love and sympathize with her for being sexualized I know judging by her character that she'd probably hate the nsfw equally as much as you haters do.

I just realized how much I wrote ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I'm a yapper

edit: I also couldnt help but notice you made mods muting the only two female survivors... Hmm...
Laatst bewerkt door The Virgin Nick; 18 feb 2024 om 1:04
I like Zoey for non coomer reasons unironically, but you guys ruined the thread before I could get here
Origineel geplaatst door mpilobrooklyn0:
yes. they only like zoey because she is hot. that's it.
people like me mainly like zoey cuz she well shes hot and shes likes horror movies and talks about them
Origineel geplaatst door Whiterun Guard:
Origineel geplaatst door mpilobrooklyn0:
yes. they only like zoey because she is hot. that's it.
people like me mainly like zoey cuz she well shes hot and shes likes horror movies and talks about them
she's young and like the same lame ♥♥♥♥ other people like
she's more grounded to earth than say a survivalist or tough girl stereotype
Origineel geplaatst door Nicolas:
People who favor her is because they just like her character or like you mentioned play as her because she is female(which most female players tend to do). A minority is because of sexualization. and if it is for nsfw purposes it's not the characters fault.

This is true but I still fail to see fault in her character. Her ingame literally has more clothes on than Rochelle does and she obviously isnt your typical girly girl either. I blame the male dominated side of the game for this seeing how they are the ones making all of the nsfw and they're only really doing it because shes a girl. You guys hate her so much for this but it's quite literally not her fault. Theres a bit nsfw of the witch too due to her in the first game being the only female infected. Its literally because they were the first females that they were sexualized. Females in video games tend to unfortunately get a bunch of nsfw of them even if they're fully dressed like zoey is.

I'd say maybe before yes but now if anybody said anything bad about any survivor (especially coach) they'd get attacked for it. Zoey I feel like alot of people hate her nowadays for reasons that she cannot control and probably less likely to be defended now.

This is true I agree she has alot of nsfw mods but is that really her characters fault or her fans? you can separate the fans from the character and even sympathize with the character and her sexualization.

The spam posts are most likely for award grabs. Most cosplays or images posted are just reposts of someone else's work. They don't necessarily have to be fans of zoey they just may know shes considered a favorite and post her for awards.

I'd like to argue not with the survivor bit but the witch when I searched Is pretty sexualized too, take this into consideration that both zoey and the witch were the first females and that's most likely why they're even sexualized to begin with.

I get it if you dont like her character, maybe shes boring to you yk like that's normal but blaming and hating her for her sexualization is weird I'm not gonna lie it feels like victim blaming a bit considering it's not like shes the one presenting herself as someone who wants to be sexualized she's quite literally just a girl.

Is there a reason why you HATE her other than her creepy fans? I mean I know you've made posts and mods getting rid of her so theres gotta be a different reason right?? I can't help but love and sympathize with her for being sexualized I know judging by her character that she'd probably hate the nsfw equally as much as you haters do.

I just realized how much I wrote ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I'm a yapper

edit: I also couldnt help but notice you made mods muting the only two female survivors... Hmm...

My hatred of Zoey and my hatred of Zoey fans are two separate things, only one of which is relevant to my comment and this discussion post.

I hate Zoey because there’s nothing to like. She’s boring. She has very little personality. She contributes almost nothing to the group dynamic. Even in terms of her appearance there’s nothing distinct about her; Bill is dressed in military attire, Francis has his biker getup and tattoos, Louis was very clearly at his office job when the outbreak started but Zoey is just… a teenager in a red jacket.

I hate her fans because, in my personal experience, the overwhelming majority of the Zoey fans I’ve met are exactly like what I’ve described. If you take her fans out of the equation, she’s fine. Very bland, but tolerable. But it’s because of her fans that I can’t type her name into a search bar without worrying about who might be standing behind me.

As for the mods I’ve made, I’m sure when you were playing detective you also would’ve seen the comments on the Zoey mod explicitly requesting that I make a version for Rochelle. You would’ve had to have seen them, because going so far as to imply that I’m a sexist without even bothering to properly look at what you’re using as evidence would be a pretty dumb thing to do, wouldn’t it?
Origineel geplaatst door Geebanger0:
Origineel geplaatst door Nicolas:
People who favor her is because they just like her character or like you mentioned play as her because she is female(which most female players tend to do). A minority is because of sexualization. and if it is for nsfw purposes it's not the characters fault.

This is true but I still fail to see fault in her character. Her ingame literally has more clothes on than Rochelle does and she obviously isnt your typical girly girl either. I blame the male dominated side of the game for this seeing how they are the ones making all of the nsfw and they're only really doing it because shes a girl. You guys hate her so much for this but it's quite literally not her fault. Theres a bit nsfw of the witch too due to her in the first game being the only female infected. Its literally because they were the first females that they were sexualized. Females in video games tend to unfortunately get a bunch of nsfw of them even if they're fully dressed like zoey is.

I'd say maybe before yes but now if anybody said anything bad about any survivor (especially coach) they'd get attacked for it. Zoey I feel like alot of people hate her nowadays for reasons that she cannot control and probably less likely to be defended now.

This is true I agree she has alot of nsfw mods but is that really her characters fault or her fans? you can separate the fans from the character and even sympathize with the character and her sexualization.

The spam posts are most likely for award grabs. Most cosplays or images posted are just reposts of someone else's work. They don't necessarily have to be fans of zoey they just may know shes considered a favorite and post her for awards.

I'd like to argue not with the survivor bit but the witch when I searched Is pretty sexualized too, take this into consideration that both zoey and the witch were the first females and that's most likely why they're even sexualized to begin with.

I get it if you dont like her character, maybe shes boring to you yk like that's normal but blaming and hating her for her sexualization is weird I'm not gonna lie it feels like victim blaming a bit considering it's not like shes the one presenting herself as someone who wants to be sexualized she's quite literally just a girl.

Is there a reason why you HATE her other than her creepy fans? I mean I know you've made posts and mods getting rid of her so theres gotta be a different reason right?? I can't help but love and sympathize with her for being sexualized I know judging by her character that she'd probably hate the nsfw equally as much as you haters do.

I just realized how much I wrote ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I'm a yapper

edit: I also couldnt help but notice you made mods muting the only two female survivors... Hmm...

My hatred of Zoey and my hatred of Zoey fans are two separate things, only one of which is relevant to my comment and this discussion post.

I hate Zoey because there’s nothing to like. She’s boring. She has very little personality. She contributes almost nothing to the group dynamic. Even in terms of her appearance there’s nothing distinct about her; Bill is dressed in military attire, Francis has his biker getup and tattoos, Louis was very clearly at his office job when the outbreak started but Zoey is just… a teenager in a red jacket.

I hate her fans because, in my personal experience, the overwhelming majority of the Zoey fans I’ve met are exactly like what I’ve described. If you take her fans out of the equation, she’s fine. Very bland, but tolerable. But it’s because of her fans that I can’t type her name into a search bar without worrying about who might be standing behind me.

As for the mods I’ve made, I’m sure when you were playing detective you also would’ve seen the comments on the Zoey mod explicitly requesting that I make a version for Rochelle. You would’ve had to have seen them, because going so far as to imply that I’m a sexist without even bothering to properly look at what you’re using as evidence would be a pretty dumb thing to do, wouldn’t it?
Fair points, I'm just tired of all the hate towards her due to her fans but if you have legit reasons other than those thats a-okay!! It's just the things you were naming were mostly her fan stuff but I hear you now

And detective lol that's funny but no yeah i should have looked through the comments like you have said, which I did not ill admit. That is entirely my fault so I apologise for indirectly accusing you of sexism.
Laatst bewerkt door The Virgin Nick; 18 feb 2024 om 4:27
Origineel geplaatst door Nicolas:
Origineel geplaatst door Geebanger0:

My hatred of Zoey and my hatred of Zoey fans are two separate things, only one of which is relevant to my comment and this discussion post.

I hate Zoey because there’s nothing to like. She’s boring. She has very little personality. She contributes almost nothing to the group dynamic. Even in terms of her appearance there’s nothing distinct about her; Bill is dressed in military attire, Francis has his biker getup and tattoos, Louis was very clearly at his office job when the outbreak started but Zoey is just… a teenager in a red jacket.

I hate her fans because, in my personal experience, the overwhelming majority of the Zoey fans I’ve met are exactly like what I’ve described. If you take her fans out of the equation, she’s fine. Very bland, but tolerable. But it’s because of her fans that I can’t type her name into a search bar without worrying about who might be standing behind me.

As for the mods I’ve made, I’m sure when you were playing detective you also would’ve seen the comments on the Zoey mod explicitly requesting that I make a version for Rochelle. You would’ve had to have seen them, because going so far as to imply that I’m a sexist without even bothering to properly look at what you’re using as evidence would be a pretty dumb thing to do, wouldn’t it?
Fair points, I'm just tired of all the hate towards her due to her fans but if you have legit reasons other than those thats a-okay!! It's just the things you were naming were mostly her fan stuff but I hear you now

And detective lol that's funny but no yeah i should have looked through the comments like you have said, which I did not ill admit. That is entirely my fault so I apologise for indirectly accusing you of sexism.

It’s all good girl, we tight
people who put zoey up at #1 are most likely gonna be simps

the most reason she should be likeable is mainly due to the fact that shes the only "normal" charecter in the group

just someone who was thrown into the mess and now has to deal with a zombie infestation

shes just the type to make some bad jokes, watch horror movies etc

compare that to bill being some crazy war veterin that even in his old age is capable of just picking up a gun and clearing the floor from infected
francis this absalute dumb nut of a biker that lacks even 1 iq
and louis the super over the top optimistic charecter that is an it expert and capable of speaking multiple languages

every charecter is a steryotype of sorts for comedic effect and zoey hits the least because ironically shes the most realistic and relatible survivor.

when i think of "someone throwin into a chaotic zomie apocalipse" id think of zoey to be most suited. zoey in reality is a very mid chaecter overshadowd by the other 3 survivors extreem personalities

she is the only actual charecter to have growth within the story (especially after ill abandons people to get the train out of the overrun military base where shes hating bill for it)

zoey is well writen and has her own touch f personality although not as extreem as others which in its own way works really well but if you are looking for lets say comedic effect shes just kinda there
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