Why do CS weapons even exist?

[Z2J]

Most can agree that TLS made some good changes (and a lot of braindead changes), but CS weapons are basically the epitome of everything wrong with the update.
>♥♥♥♥♥♥ reload animations
>bad viewmodels
>barely or not rebalanced in any way in accordance with other weapons
>pretty much all of them are garbage, and they're basically unusable if you're not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around. only exceptions are SG and MP5, which are still worse than any of their on-tier counterparts (just not unusable)
It literally just added a host of garbage weapons that nobody likes and that nobody (who knew how they worked) wanted. It used to be that the worst Tier 2 you'd come across might be a SCAR, but now you can feel lucky coming across a Tier 2 stash that doesn't have a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ AWP or SCOUT. Seriously, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke.

[**DeiRowtag]

here we go again

[King Of Lolis]

why not

[𝕺𝖌𝖗𝖎𝖒]

Valve gave them to germany out of pity. Then TLS decided everyone should have these pity weapons cuz why not.

[supersand]

the uzi variants are usable and on par with Mac-10, its just the snipers that are really bad

[England is not a real country]

The problem is VALVE,

Valve was sloppy and simply copy n´paste their own ♥♥♥♥ into L4D2 because of German Censorship.

Valve thought:
"EY! HOW bout we use THE AWP FROM COUNTER-STRIKE! INTO L4D2! IMAGINE HOW MANY COOL 360´s NO SCOPES CAN PLAYERS DO! OMG!!!? WHO CARES IF A BOLD ACTION SNIPER RIFLES DOESN`T REALLY HAS ANY GOOD USAGE FOR GAMAPLAY?! WE HAVE nIkO AND sImple! THE`RE THE PROS OF COUNTER-STIRKE!!!@!@2"

[The man, the myth, the leg]

if the snipers at least had good damage thery might be useful as (very gimmicky) special killers, but no. just slap them with the same damage as the way better semiautos

[CAT_ATACK]

Most L4D weapons began as CSS weapons, however the ones in L4D2 were added last minute prior to launch due to German censorship laws being awful. They were made available to the general audience with TLS at Valve's insistence, following the German governments re-evaluation of their censorship laws, with Valve's reasoning being a bit admirable since it was mostly a decision made to avoid removing launch content.

Unfortunately, they are still very rough and unfinished, as most of the updated assets like models and animations were never brought over when they were finished during the CSGO Beta in 2013 (the MP5 being the worst offender, followed by the AWP and Knife), the Bolt-Action Snipers were never properly set up with a T1 category, and the SG552 has a completely broken scope that tends to hide its biggest strengths over the SCAR.

Unfortunately, these are fixes only valve could do at this point, and would themselves be a major update if they were to do it. The hope is they will one day, but it is what it is for now.

[Lyica.]

l4d2 players try not to start a discussion about CSS weapons (impossible)

[Shin Navideño]

Valve pushed the CSS weapons last minute, it wasnt TLS Team choice

[A Pebble]

Originally posted by This user has been lobotimized:

The problem is VALVE,

Valve was sloppy and simply copy n´paste their own ♥♥♥♥ into L4D2 because of German Censorship.

Valve thought:
"EY! HOW bout we use THE AWP FROM COUNTER-STRIKE! INTO L4D2! IMAGINE HOW MANY COOL 360´s NO SCOPES CAN PLAYERS DO! OMG!!!? WHO CARES IF A BOLD ACTION SNIPER RIFLES DOESN`T REALLY HAS ANY GOOD USAGE FOR GAMAPLAY?! WE HAVE nIkO AND sImple! THE`RE THE PROS OF COUNTER-STIRKE!!!@!@2"

accurate name

[Zadkiel]

Ok, no need to constantly clog of up the discussions with the same crap over and over again. Google it or Youtube it since even long before TLS people were curious about why the CS weapons were sometimes available to use and it was a popular topic at the time.

[Trunten]

as already explained, they were already always a part of the game
they used to just be hidden and needed to be unlocked
valve added them to the game because of censoring of Germany long ago
but now, Last Stand made them always available
wouldn't be surprised to see them improved in the future

[Xypher]

Originally posted by This user has been lobotimized:

The problem is VALVE,

Valve was sloppy and simply copy n´paste their own ♥♥♥♥ into L4D2 because of German Censorship.

Valve thought:
"EY! HOW bout we use THE AWP FROM COUNTER-STRIKE! INTO L4D2! IMAGINE HOW MANY COOL 360´s NO SCOPES CAN PLAYERS DO! OMG!!!? WHO CARES IF A BOLD ACTION SNIPER RIFLES DOESN`T REALLY HAS ANY GOOD USAGE FOR GAMAPLAY?! WE HAVE nIkO AND sImple! THE`RE THE PROS OF COUNTER-STIRKE!!!@!@2"

Never played versus have ya?

[41st is Red]

Since when is an extra weapon a bad thing? Considering that you can replace it with cool addons, and if you play solo or with friends, then you can change their scripts and then there will be a completely new weapon.

[The man, the myth, the leg]

Originally posted by McNabbs:

Since when is an extra weapon a bad thing? Considering that you can replace it with cool addons, and if you play solo or with friends, then you can change their scripts and then there will be a completely new weapon.

If you could freely choose your loadout i would agree with you
The issue (at least with the snipers) is that those weapons clog up the spawn pool and (even worse) bots use them instead of something better