should left 4 dead 1 be free?

[Klonoa]

2 reasons I feel it should
1. L4D2 has all of L4D1's content, therefore owning both games would kinda be a scam
2. not many really play it, L4D1's all-time peak is 2333 players, whereas L4D2's peak is 161590
what are your opinions?

[AustrAlien2010]

Left 4 Dead does not have exactly the same contents. For example, it has:

A different introduction video.
A different menu with different music and sound. It has an interface that shows different imagery, and uses a different text font.
It seems a little bit different. In example, there's a more basic version of The Lighthouse survival arena. And there are minor differences in how shadows are cast, and how lightning, colour and shading effects are displayed on screen.
There are different models of characters, items and textures, and things make different sounds. In the original you can see the lower part of the character model, if you aim down. It also has different tumble animations, and shows less explicit visceral effects.
The play is less obscene, and has different system requirements and programming, and responds somewhat differently.

Most of these differences are very difficult to notice. But I think I can see them.

[Bathtub Shitter]

add mtx

[Abd0]

Bro why it's need to be free I just bought a bundle for about 15$

[Chris Cynicider]

Years ago I thought you had to buy L4D1 to play it as DLC for L4D2.

Anyway, no real point. Probably should just make it so you can only buy both games together at the price of L4D2, and if you own L4D2 then you automatically own L4D1. But again, no real point.

[Zenith]

No. Just no.

Your second point doesn't make sense at all. Players rather play L4D2 than L4D1 because L4D2 has the same contents as L4D1 and even more than that. Making 1 free to play wouldn't exactly increase its player base, as they could get the (kinda) exact same game and more if they just pay for the second game. It's not that expensive to get, specially in a sale.

This would make 1 just some sort of trial before buying the second game. Players wouldn't stay playing the first game if they end up buying the second, and the ones that would do, are basically the same ones that are playing it now. Not to mention it'd attract randoms and trolls. I know free to play games don't exactly leads to attract bad, random and troll players, but it's more likely to happen in them, as it's open for everyone to play.

[Klonoa]

Originally posted by capitalist pig:

No. Just no.

Not to mention it'd attract randoms and trolls. I know free to play games don't exactly leads to attract bad, random and troll players, but it's more likely to happen in them, as it's open for everyone to play.

sayin that as if TF2 and CS:GO were automatically flooding with randoms and trolls when becoming free

[Klonoa]

Originally posted by 𝔒𝔤𝔯𝔦𝔪:

add mtx

MTX? wtf are you on about?

[Zenith]

Originally posted by Klono🅱:

Originally posted by capitalist pig:

No. Just no.

Not to mention it'd attract randoms and trolls. I know free to play games don't exactly leads to attract bad, random and troll players, but it's more likely to happen in them, as it's open for everyone to play.

sayin that as if TF2 and CS:GO were automatically flooding with randoms and trolls when becoming free

You saying this just proves you didn't read my comment at all.

[AfdhalADF]

at least it's cheap rather than free

[Klonoa]

Originally posted by Zenith:

Originally posted by Klono🅱:

sayin that as if TF2 and CS:GO were automatically flooding with randoms and trolls when becoming free

You saying this just proves you didn't read my comment at all.

I did read it.
and you think just because a game goes free it instantly gets flooded with randoms and trolls?

[Klonoa]

Originally posted by AfdhalADF:

at least it's cheap rather than free

nobody plays it anymore tho

[Shin Navideño]

l4d1 is worthless and the only people defending it are hipsters who think "nostalgia" is worth the same money as l4d2

[Klonoa]

Originally posted by Shin Navideño:

l4d1 is worthless and the only people defending it are hipsters who think "nostalgia" is worth the same money as l4d2

ye
so might as well make it free

[Zenith]

Originally posted by Klono🅱:

Originally posted by Zenith:

You saying this just proves you didn't read my comment at all.

I did read it.
and you think just because a game goes free it instantly gets flooded with randoms and trolls?

No. I didn't say that. Read again. In fact, I said the complete opposite of that.

[WhitePhantom]

Left 4 Dead 1 is still fun and it still has value, even to someone who owns the second game. Take a few minutes to go back to play it, and you may be surprised by how different it actually is. The overall atmosphere is a lot darker, there are variations in map design and the gameplay without the area control specials makes a nice change.