The problem with the workshop community of this game right now.

[Chicken Jockey]

If you played L4D2 long enough. You may have been on the workshop as long as me. You may have installed cool mods and maps you find across the workshop. But there's a "HUGE" Problem with the workshop THAT MUST BE STOPPED. You may have found these weird Anime/NSFW content on the workshop. And it's EVERYWHERE. No matter where you go, What you search. There will be anime and pornography content waiting for you to look. And the worse part is that people actually download this kind of stuff! I'm being serious. Searching for weapons,Infected,Survivors Anime will ALWAYS BE THERE. (And Porn) So, is anybody going to end this mess and make the workshop "CLEAN" for once!? In all serious, when did a game about killing zombies and suriving in a group with a workshop attached to it TURNED INTO A NSFW ANIME WORKSHOP INSTEAD OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS GAME!?

[Kurt Alert]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it's still going lol

[Yuni-Que]

Just asking does anyone have a spare L4D2 key ?

[Kitai]

its funny because last time i checked nsfw content is against tos, since the platform is 13+ not 18+ well esrb is rated 17+ for mature games theres a reason why 18+ games are banned from ever being sold.

its not a bait post nor abuse taggings its the fact of lack of moderation, nsfw doesnt belong in any game that is under 18. theres no need for p*rn in video games and no need for sexualizing little kids in the anime model swaps(yes i seen these before and its disgusting)

so again its a massive probable that valve can but are lazy to fix

[ᴄʟᴀꜱꜱɪᴄ]

Автор сообщения: @xMaxrayx

People who despite porn and adult material and don't know what the difference from each other are wired af.

They assume they're grown up "big boys" for watching porn ESPECIALLY Hentai, when in reality they are nothing but no deodorant degenerates.

[banuno]

ew why are people giving this dude points its not even good bait

[banuno]

Автор сообщения: Nikolai

That's what, and I think the creator of this discussion is right. I'm damn tired of all this. All this heresy and a sign of the degradation of society are damn well visible in our time, in a local sense, this is expressed in such "creators" who post content that is absurdly inappropriate in spirit to the product that the user purchased. In general, the world has already gone crazy, given all this "tolerance" towards frankly sick people who are out of mind, and do not distinguish art with creativity from vulgarity and sodomy (I'm afraid I'm bent, of course, but it even hurts to be silent about it). Seriously, there are three pillars of this nonsense: "Asian Cartoon characters (and the like)", "Anthropomorphic animals" and rule #34.

As for the concept, then. The workshop was created to maintain life in the game, there are also various works of people who supplemented the game with innovations. Perhaps it... changes or... the "reanimation" of weapons, objects. And maybe deal with some aspects of the game or the return of the old ones (not implemented / cut). But... when content appears in the workshop that is, to put it mildly, terribly specific, I want to ask a question...Why are you putting this kind of content here?" I understand perfectly well what many people can say: "Don't pay attention; Don't download; Set limits on content you don't need." I want to tell such people one important thing. Ceasing to pay attention to "it"... will something change from this, all the content that I have to hide, will it turn into something more expressive/useful? There are already a lot of "junk addons" that are useless or made literally for a joke, 40-50% of the workshop consists of them, but where are you going with your "creations"? Why should this "heresy" be in Left 4 Dead 2 (?), is it not enough for you that STEAM has approved 18+ games (pornography) since 2018? Stop spreading your "fetishes" where they don't belong. You understand, murder in games and pornography in games are not the same thing. And you don't need to cover your words with the fact that the game has an 18+ rating.

In general, I would also like to point out that there is a lot of Asian content (specific) and "anthropomorphic animals" in the Left 4 Dead 2 workshop, but this is my personal hatred of all this.... I have never understood people who associate themselves so much with animals that they are ready to replace their human essence with the product of a sick mind. Or people who prefer to play for characters (or download models already on existing ones) of the opposite sex, or maybe even pervert those characters that are in the original game.

I just can't understand the course of these thoughts..., it's "funny" or "ironic". Anyway, finally I want to warn you. I wrote all this for myself, and I didn't work for any evaluation, I wanted to express everything I gained by getting acquainted with a platform like Steam. And of course, for those who like to read to the end, or for those who did not understand the "whole picture". I'll say... this is not just a problem of one game or the entire Steam platform, everything is much "broader".

And of course, yes. Your right, I can be judged, but only, in the case of whether, it will already be interesting. But keep in mind, I'm not here to argue.

damn thats crazy

[The Shark Dude]

Автор сообщения: banuno

ew why are people giving this dude points its not even good bait

Maybe because it isn't "bait" and is instead someone genuinely trying to start a serious conversation.

[Xhoas]

Автор сообщения: That Shark Dude

Автор сообщения: banuno

ew why are people giving this dude points its not even good bait

Maybe because it isn't "bait" and is instead someone genuinely trying to start a serious conversation.

How can this be a serious conversation if they are just offended by some anime girl?

[The Shark Dude]

Автор сообщения: Shoas

Автор сообщения: That Shark Dude

Maybe because it isn't "bait" and is instead someone genuinely trying to start a serious conversation.

How can this be a serious conversation if they are just offended by some anime girl?

I made a comment earlier explaining why that isn't what people are mad about. I suggest you read it.

[NO REGRETS]

I do not know how you can assume that this whole discussion was created for the sake of a joke. After all, the proof that these are not empty words is in the workshop of this game. Otherwise, if this whole discussion is created for the sake of meaningless arguments. But the problem does not disappear from this, because it is obvious. Well, let me, debauchery has never led people (humanity in particular) to prosperity and development. Depravity in itself is a sign of degradation of a person or of the whole society. I don't want to use the word "degradation" as an insult, it's just inherent in the "fall of man" from a moral point of view... and maybe humanity. I can admit that pornography is possible for an 18+ rated product, but please... there is at least some argument in favor of pornography, except for this 18+ rating?

Yes, I have already been reproached for not distinguishing between "pornography" and "adult content", but please forgive me, I tried to find the difference between them using a browser. But I found one solid pornography. I myself understand that theoretically "adult content" probably contains not only pornography, but also scenes of physical violence (since Wikipedia says about an increased rating of 18+, I quote: - justifying or justifying the permissibility of violence and (or) cruelty... containing information of a pornographic nature", and left 4 Dead 2 with such an increased rating), but... The Internet thinks differently. As a result, "pornography" and "adult content" are the same thing, despite the fact that "pornography" is a separate part of "adult content", if I may.

I am ready to admit that Left 4 Dead 2 has not yet become mired in "adult content", and everything seems to have settled down with Asian content. As for Asian content (Asians) in general, as for me, all this discontent of people against Asians is deserved. And it's not about race (you should understand this yourself), but about who (in priority) creates such content and who uses such content (in priority)... And it is not surprising that when they talk about addons with an "Asian touch", they say and condemn specifically Asians, and this is justified.
And due to the fact that there may not be a lot of 18+ content with fetishism in the workshop (unless you search for it yourself), but let me... The tastes of the people who create "such" addons are terribly specific, perhaps my mentality will seem outdated to many, but when I went into the workshop---> survivors... Against the background of good (relevant) addons, and maybe comical (harmless) ones, I see characters of Asian appearance / Asian drawing(Anime)... No offense, but it looks like some kind of prostitution, of course, there are exceptions... Okay, let's focus on the fact that I have such a mentality. But in fact, there is explicit pornography in the form of: game models, sprays, textures... Naturally, we want to ask why ...? Just like that, and more specifically, due to the fact that the rating of the game is 18+, we realized that it is convenient for everyone to cling to an increased rating, it is clear. I am ready to repeat once again that pornography and cruelty in games cannot be combined, it is a perversion... In Left 4 Dead 2 there are mechanics of dismemberment of enemies, yes. But one of them (the game) is a visual innovation, and the other (addons) is a perverted nature. Someone may disagree with my words, but this cruelty did not cause me any pleasure, at most, it was admiration when studying the comments of developers on the topic of this innovation.

I don't want to convince people that blood and entrails are better than pornography/fetishism. In reality, you don't need to look for greater or lesser evil, that's for sure, but for me, violence doesn't look more destructive than pornography and everything that goes with it. I don't know, but nowadays there are a lot of games based on violence, and the same Minecraft, in which we are also capable of harming and even killing (but comparing such a game Left 4 Dead 2, well, it's completely absurd, but for the sake of an example, I should have taken this into account). Pornography, of course, is a product of a completely different kind (foreign), if pornography is in the game (or something suitable for it), then everything is already unambiguous in terms of content and increased rating. Simply put, we have been for almost all our lives (even in seemingly harmless instances) they are able to adapt to the manifestations of violence (from the point of view of psychology), but pornography (perversions) is already a manifestation of the depravity of consciousness and a sick mind, created only to satisfy "dependent" people (Someone will be able to stay mentally healthy, and someone will be less lucky. I don't want to divide people, but I hope everyone understands that in fact this is the only way). Understand that this is not natural, it's just not right. If there are no problems with violence, then I think it's not worth trying to create a new "problem" FOR EACH person. I hope I can at least convince someone, as they say.... "Time will tell."

But let's ask again if there are "normal" games that combine cruelty and pornography (given that pornography is a nightmare for me, and games exclusively with pornography... perversion, I can't imagine a "normal" game with pornography or something like that, so my opinion should not be taken into account, no matter how painful it is to say (and I'm serious... if you like pornography, well... it's bad (?), but what's for sure that it's not good))? Well, I probably don't want to mention the antrapomorphic animals... this is already quite bad, combined with 18+.... Okay, everything is clear here.

Well, that's it, I already said earlier (in the last message) that I would not like to start a dispute about this, but I decided to write a new message anyway, because there was something to say. Despite all the disputes that are taking place here, in the end, no matter how much we argue here, nothing will really change, first of all it concerns the rating of the game (18+), secondly - the policy of Steam (Valve), thirdly - it is that those who can something to change, so it's only the owners of the Steam platform (Valve) themselves, or moderators (which is unlikely).

In the end, I would like to ask myself this question again... Why do you defend pornography\fetishism in principle? I don't see the only reason (other than personal gain) to protect this kind of content, I won't talk about morality, I think we're not all saints here, but I don't know why we should protect such things. But maybe I misunderstood, and the whole point is that I wanted to weave both "garbage addons" and "pornography/fetishism" under one comb? Decide for yourself. Yes, and let me say that it will not be possible to completely protect myself from this kind of content, I have been for how many years, despite the fact that I forbade recommending games to me from "Episodic nudity or scenes of a sexual nature" to "Sexual content for adults only", despite this, I regularly encounter this content as recommendations, although I am not immediately sent to the product page, but the fact remains... this is the Steam policy. It would be obviously to say that we are talking about money, but unfortunately (for me), this is something for this platform...

[Xhoas]

Автор сообщения: That Shark Dude

Автор сообщения: Shoas

How can this be a serious conversation if they are just offended by some anime girl?

I made a comment earlier explaining why that isn't what people are mad about. I suggest you read it.

Still a nonissue. first, the workshop is not filled with 50% anime mods as you claim. Second, the thumbnail of 18+ mods doesn't show anything sexual unless you click on it.

[FROYO Rando Blueberry King Jesus]

Автор сообщения: Shoas

Автор сообщения: That Shark Dude

I made a comment earlier explaining why that isn't what people are mad about. I suggest you read it.

Still a nonissue. first, the workshop is not filled with 50% anime mods as you claim. Second, the thumbnail of 18+ mods doesn't show anything sexual unless you click on it.

Oh you’re right, it’s 75%!

[Max]

Автор сообщения: Ame

Автор сообщения: @xMaxrayx

why you didn't care about them? you should ban them and don't use all Chinese stuff or because you want them but somehow you don't want to see Chinese players at the workshop? under vlave permission? remember this isn't you or me own this website , it belongs to Valve and Valve wants open it to everyone all doors because it makes them money.

also, you don't have to control which parents/ race you are going to pick when you are born, so talking badly about someone's race/look/sexuality isn't a mature way, you are ok to criticism his idea but as a person is no.

so why do you guys ask to Americans stop being racist against Asian-American but in all Asian countries they are racist as well? do you think people will stop by this way?

besides Moded-Discord won't give you more anonymously Yeah it gives you more future but still discord will get all data, it's just like yt with the AdBlock addon with some them, and you better remove that moded-discord name because some abuse report system





my point is porn isn't just from Chinese, anyone can make porn on Pixiv you see a lot of Japanese do anime porn.

in the USA you can do porn aer as will but as I know some people see it as taboo there, so the artist makes alternative accounts for porn stuff.

sure you see a lot of Chinese but how much do Chinese people count compare to other countries?

here is first result from google






will the Steam algorithm is bad
here is a video for non-anime problem
https://youtu.be/fd_ria_6lHo?t=11

Even official games can have wired tags too ,I remember some trolls added "sexual content" for new Sonic games lmao, even reviews filled with bots, but hat did valve a big company to theses ?

oh wait they Have CS:GO filled with AFK farmers but nothing comes from this company

What the hell are you pointing out?

Sure, anything modded for the purpose or removing tracking URLs and shenanigans are "similarly functional", right? Not like Facebook and Google having a long ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tracking URLs that covers 1/10 of your chat in any scenario with literally no reason to exist.

Nerdy stuff aside, I want to point out the Chinese part because looking back I do sound kinda racist, so as a backup
I'm trying to imply here that specifically this Steam workshop of this game, Left 4 Dead 2, is facing a major problem in baiting with anime porn stuff, most of theme are 100% from Chinese. I can see others, but they aren't significant to talk about, take example 7empest just taking weird commissions for r18 stuff, business is business, them do them.
Why it has to be Chinese, I mentioned? Talking about the biggest population in this planet, despite having good communities, the bad ones covered all the good ones. What I have seen is what I speak, the horny side of Chinese is taking a large part of this workshop, whatever it is, it will always be porn or whatever, because, males

Justifying myself, I only jump into this thread because the OP mentioning both separated category into a combination of one topic, which actually misleading because one decent category fall into a degenerate part of the community is bold
Not a weeb, nor interested in anime, I just want to point out that Anime stuff isn't bad, following up what That Shark Dude said

"Tag abuse, basically an anime mafia and bots mass-downvoting non-anime stuff and mass-upvoting anime stuff in a circlejerk, tons of anime weapon skins to search through to find something of interest (using tags won't help much with that), someone searching for character model addons can't just filter out anime, and also people who just strawman the complaints as being "LULZ U JUST DON'T LIKE ANIME!!1!1!" Anime isn't the problem nor is it anime itself people hate. People hate that it's what at least 50% of the workshop is now. I literally pointed out earlier that people would be just as upset if it was something else, like Winnie the Pooh addons flooding the workshop"

we can whine anytime about this but eventually move on, good, I kinda hate the repeat whining about this

removing the URL doesn't remove "tracking" from the discord, it's just stops 3rd party tracking but if you want to see these pictures in high resolution by clicking on the image then they will track you,
that if the case Discord didn't get bugged/bypassed.






will valve allow sexual add-on (l4d2 devs), they have the right to do their rules, that's why I suggest some improvement to workshop tags/filters so people who have problems with sexual stuff can use the workshop safely,

devs is the only one who has the right to make workshop rules, you can see " a hat in time" doesn't have sexual mod because devs don't allow this and maybe they will ban the users to stop publishing their workshop addon in the future.


if a majority of l4d2 players have a problem with steam workshop then they are free to host their websites and share mods they like

but guess what? no one did that for all these years (unless you are looking for a general game modding website like gamebanan.com).



steam workshop always has bots from years lmao in other games, so valve wont do anything for anime bots

[Max]

Автор сообщения: Kitai

its funny because last time i checked nsfw content is against tos, since the platform is 13+ not 18+ well esrb is rated 17+ for mature games theres a reason why 18+ games are banned from ever being sold.

its not a bait post nor abuse taggings its the fact of lack of moderation, nsfw doesnt belong in any game that is under 18. theres no need for p*rn in video games and no need for sexualizing little kids in the anime model swaps(yes i seen these before and its disgusting)

so again its a massive probable that valve can but are lazy to fix

No, it doesn't work like this it means "you don't have the right to use it under 13y."
also, steam has straight adult sex games lmao

like how grocery store works you can find wine there but 8y boy cant buy it.

[Max]

Автор сообщения: Ame

For Pixiv, it's a website for illustrations and artworks, of course it will exist any kind from any artists, or so they called using Koikatsu "a drawing software", so I don't find it valid here

The rest is kinda off-topic honestly, the freedom of Steam workshop is nothing to not be familiar with

will 3d models consider art itself like 2D art?

there is no "freedom" on Steam is just a bunch of rules and allowed content.