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Dawido Aug 1, 2022 @ 10:04am
Lore behind The Last stand and Cold stream?
I know that TLS is alternative universe to l4d1 story, but what CS is about? Explain lore of these both campaings please
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Troubled Aug 1, 2022 @ 10:25am 
TLS is basically a "what if" scenario where the survivors take a wrong turn which does not end well for them, at least in the original TLS that is the case. Cold Stream has no connections to the main Left 4 Dead lore, nor does it have any connections at all to the other campaigns, and is considered non-canon.
4th floor player Aug 1, 2022 @ 1:02pm 
Cold Stream is probably an alternate universe where the helicopter crashed on a rocky stream instead of a dark abandoned village. The campaign is kinda confusing. If the helicopter was used as an escape vehicle, where did the survivors go to next? A military base? An Evac Station?

Anyways, to the Last Stand lore.

If the campaign has something to do with the lore, then, it would be a bridge between Crash Course and Death Toll. 4 survivors stuck on a dark forest, their vehicle is broken, they have to find a way to escape this dark forest by turning on the light of the lighthouse to signal for help, once the help arrived, they get into the boat, off the boat to a safer location, they continue their way, find a vehicle, escape and continue towards Death Toll.

Last edited by 4th floor player; Aug 1, 2022 @ 1:07pm
Vinnie Aug 1, 2022 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by chillin':
Cold Stream is probably an alternate universe where the helicopter crashed on a rocky stream instead of a dark abandoned village. The campaign is kinda confusing. If the helicopter was used as an escape vehicle, where did the survivors go to next? A military base? An Evac Station?

Anyways, to the Last Stand lore.

If the campaign has something to do with the lore, then, it would be a bridge between Crash Course and Death Toll. 4 survivors stuck on a dark forest, their vehicle is broken, they have to find a way to escape this dark forest by turning on the light of the lighthouse to signal for help, once the help arrived, they get into the boat, off the boat to a safer location, they continue their way, find a vehicle, escape and continue towards Death Toll.
The first dude was right, Cold Stream is non-canon and The Last Stand is a "what-if"
yesskillch Aug 1, 2022 @ 1:50pm 
TLS is "after" Death Toll, if the survivors took a right through the gate instead of continuing along the left path towards the boathouse.
Last edited by yesskillch; Aug 1, 2022 @ 1:52pm
zzombhunter Aug 3, 2022 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by chillin':
Cold Stream is probably an alternate universe where the helicopter crashed on a rocky stream instead of a dark abandoned village. The campaign is kinda confusing. If the helicopter was used as an escape vehicle, where did the survivors go to next? A military base? An Evac Station?

Anyways, to the Last Stand lore.

If the campaign has something to do with the lore, then, it would be a bridge between Crash Course and Death Toll. 4 survivors stuck on a dark forest, their vehicle is broken, they have to find a way to escape this dark forest by turning on the light of the lighthouse to signal for help, once the help arrived, they get into the boat, off the boat to a safer location, they continue their way, find a vehicle, escape and continue towards Death Toll.
id say cold stream is after swamp fever like lets say they went in a river and then some survivors threw molotovs at the boat and it got destroyed thats my lore atleast
zzombhunter Aug 3, 2022 @ 7:44pm 
also in last stand i recommend using left 4 dead 1 animations and playing on the left 4 dead 1 coop gamemode
Cursed Hawkins Aug 3, 2022 @ 7:50pm 
Originally posted by Hamburger | zzombhunter roblox:
Originally posted by chillin':
Cold Stream is probably an alternate universe where the helicopter crashed on a rocky stream instead of a dark abandoned village. The campaign is kinda confusing. If the helicopter was used as an escape vehicle, where did the survivors go to next? A military base? An Evac Station?

Anyways, to the Last Stand lore.

If the campaign has something to do with the lore, then, it would be a bridge between Crash Course and Death Toll. 4 survivors stuck on a dark forest, their vehicle is broken, they have to find a way to escape this dark forest by turning on the light of the lighthouse to signal for help, once the help arrived, they get into the boat, off the boat to a safer location, they continue their way, find a vehicle, escape and continue towards Death Toll.
id say cold stream is after swamp fever like lets say they went in a river and then some survivors threw molotovs at the boat and it got destroyed thats my lore atleast
Guess you don't notice the crashed MILITARY helicopter that's present at the beginning of Cold Stream, its non-canon and it doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ help that the creator BEHIND Cold Stream was the same person that made 2 Evil Eyes one of the most notorious for using hordes for progression the same carnal sin Cold Stream suffers from as well.
zzombhunter Aug 3, 2022 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:
Originally posted by Hamburger | zzombhunter roblox:
id say cold stream is after swamp fever like lets say they went in a river and then some survivors threw molotovs at the boat and it got destroyed thats my lore atleast
Guess you don't notice the crashed MILITARY helicopter that's present at the beginning of Cold Stream, its non-canon and it doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ help that the creator BEHIND Cold Stream was the same person that made 2 Evil Eyes one of the most notorious for using hordes for progression the same carnal sin Cold Stream suffers from as well.
oh i did lol im just saying what i think about the lore and yeah thats it
Last edited by zzombhunter; Aug 3, 2022 @ 8:19pm
A Paper Clip Aug 3, 2022 @ 8:25pm 
Someone had a theory that Cold Stream happens after Dark Carnival. It makes some sense because of the line Coach says in Swamp Fever, "You know what, no more helicopter rides, I'm good". That line sort of implies that he has been on more than one helicopter ride, which is where Cold Stream comes in. Cold Stream would happen after Dark Carnival. This is a fan theory, not canon.

Dead Center - Drive Jimmy Gibbs Car
The Passing - Raise bridge to drive past with car
Dark Carnival - Fly helicopter out of the carnival
Cold Stream - Crashed the helicopter from Dark Carnival, then get on a second helicopter to escape.
Swamp Fever - Second helicopter crashes, then Coach says the line about no more helicopters.
King Of Lolis Aug 3, 2022 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by A Paper Clip:
Someone had a theory that Cold Stream happens after Dark Carnival. It makes some sense because of the line Coach says in Swamp Fever, "You know what, no more helicopter rides, I'm good". That line sort of implies that he has been on more than one helicopter ride, which is where Cold Stream comes in. Cold Stream would happen after Dark Carnival. This is a fan theory, not canon.

Dead Center - Drive Jimmy Gibbs Car
The Passing - Raise bridge to drive past with car
Dark Carnival - Fly helicopter out of the carnival
Cold Stream - Crashed the helicopter from Dark Carnival, then get on a second helicopter to escape.
Swamp Fever - Second helicopter crashes, then Coach says the line about no more helicopters.
well the parish also ends with a chopper so maybe they truly were unlucky as rochelle says and crashed yet again lol
CAT_ATACK Aug 4, 2022 @ 5:50pm 
Last Stand is intended as an alternate route following Crash Course, where instead of heading to Riverside (Death Toll), the survivors wind up stranded further out from the town.

Cold Stream has less lore, but could either be a what-if set after the events of the Parish, or a what-if of the survivors extracting from the hotel at the start of Dead Center.

Neither are canon to the overall story presented in both games however, more like an aperitif to the custom campaigns one can find on the workshop.
Last edited by CAT_ATACK; Aug 4, 2022 @ 6:57pm
geordiebroon58 Aug 4, 2022 @ 5:57pm 
cs i forgot about it but from what i remember apparintly it was just a community made campaign that was introduced into the game by valve

and as everyone is saying its none cannon story to l4d2 and you could introduce it as a what if at maybe the end of dark carnival etc

as for the last stand its just based of a what if scenario of going right instead of left which leads to the lighthouse (being a survival map only back in l4d1)

both are none cannon none the less and theres not much point into puting thought into them
Troubled Aug 4, 2022 @ 6:53pm 
Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:
the same person that made 2 Evil Eyes one of the most notorious for using hordes for progression the same carnal sin Cold Stream suffers from as well.

The endless conga line of infected has prevented me from wanting to play the campaign more than once. It's not fun in the slightest, especially with A.I.
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Date Posted: Aug 1, 2022 @ 10:04am
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