Worst AI bugs Valve never bothered to fix

[HK-47]

1. Bots who carry sniper rifle full of ammo using pistols against horde until incapacitated or killed.

2. Bots shoving Boomer at each other until incapacitated or killed.

3. Bots not rescuing single Survivor pinned by single SI or hanging from the ledge because it is not in their line of sight.

4. Bots not rescuing two Survivors pinned by two SI because they can't make up their mind who to help first so they instead just stand there doing nothing.

5. Bots not rescuing Survivor pinned by SI near startled Wittch until they kill the Witch or she goes out of sight.

6. Bots not picking items when literally standing on them.

7. Bots going out of the way and into danger (triggering Tank, etc) to pick items.

8. Bots randomly shooting Witch or gas cans.

9. Bots not shooting Smoker from distance but instead chasing you through half a level as you get pulled through crap and take damage.

10. Three bots cannot shoot and kill one Jockey but instead keep chasing you as you get ridden through half a level, spit, horde, boomer, witch, fire, off a cliff, etc.

11. Bots not shooting Hunter, but instead shoving it and letting him pin you or someone else again.

12. Bots sometimes just standing and taking damage from a single zombie until incapped.

13. Bots not shooting zombies attacking them next to the alarm car (even though they can jump on the car and not trigger the alarm!) until they get incapacitated or killed.

All of the above are bugs in the game and could (and should) be fixed.

Feel free to add if I forgot something.

[Reis ]

I never saw a single bot shooting a witch or gas cans are you really sure about that?

[Sora]

Originally posted by HK-47:

9. Bots not shooting Smoker from distance but instead chasing you through half a level as you get pulled through crap and take damage.

10. Three bots cannot shoot and kill one Jockey but instead keep chasing you as you get ridden through half a level, spit, horde, boomer, witch, fire, off a cliff, etc.

11. Bots not shooting Hunter, but instead shoving it and letting him pin you or someone else again.

9, 10, and 11. Are all fixed by sourcemod plugins. See https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=893326

[Spoke]

Bots are bad so people don't kick bad players for bots. I mean they still do it but in general most can agree that they would rather have a player than a bot.

[HK-47]

I am aware of sourcemod fixes but here I am talking about vanilla game, be it single-player campaign or versus with bots — as far as I knoe neither can be fixed with sourcemod.

Bots are bad because whoever wrote the code was either incompetent or he was ordered to do it this way to force people to play multi-player.

Either way the (solo) game is brokeen,

Regarding cans and witches yes I am sure, died many times from that.

[Dr Chaos MK]

Oddly enough the workshop has improved bots that can fix most of what the TC has issues with .

Sadly , it only works on local . The official dedicated servers will ALWAYS have bad bots .

[Maur0]

These mods can better improve the bots:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=121071938&searchtext=improved+bots
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=655424673&searchtext=improved+bots

I would choose the second one and it is more recommended, it also improves the special infected ones and makes them more challenging.

Although the bad thing as said "Dr Chaos MK", only works on local server. It can be in dedicated server, but you have to create it and have the mod installed on your server. Otherwise it never works on a dedicated official server valve or server of another person.

Finally, there is a plugin that improves the number 1:

"Survivor Bot Sniper Rifle AI Fix"
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1739132

[HK-47]

Originally posted by Depression:

I'm assuming the reason for 12 and 3 is a bot being overloaded with enemies...

Actually no...

#3 is a situation with a single SI pinning someone who is out of sight of the bots, no other threats around.

#12 is a single zombie, with no other threats -- mind you, it is not even the famous stuck (i.e. under the table or shelf) zombie that cannot be shoved (which is another never fixed game breaking bug), just a regular zombie they pretend not to see for some reason.

I knew about Improved Bots and I am sometimes using it, will check out competitive bots mod.

However, my point was that all this will never be fixed on official servers which is a shame.

[Neuromaniac]

me after singleplayer first times:
- wow, I see bots are pretty smart here
me after playing singleplayer a lot:
- oh boy, those bots actually stupid as hell
me after hundreds and hundreds hours of multiplayer with lots of different ppl:
- hmm.... sure not genius, yet bots are pretty smart.... comparatively....

[HK-47]

Originally posted by Neuromaniac:

me after singleplayer first times:
- wow, I see bots are pretty smart here
me after playing singleplayer a lot:
- oh boy, those bots actually stupid as hell
me after hundreds and hundreds hours of multiplayer with lots of different ppl:
- hmm.... sure not genius, yet bots are pretty smart.... comparatively.... :tank:

Quoted for truth.

[Maur0]

Originally posted by Neuromaniac:

me after singleplayer first times:
- wow, I see bots are pretty smart here
me after playing singleplayer a lot:
- oh boy, those bots actually stupid as hell
me after hundreds and hundreds hours of multiplayer with lots of different ppl:
- hmm.... sure not genius, yet bots are pretty smart.... comparatively.... :tank:

Pros Players > Bots > Noobs Players

[VideogameAddiction]

I've seen bots accidently crown Witches before. It always surprises me.

[$pirit]

Bots are still better then 60% of players.

[Neuromaniac]

Originally posted by Maur0:

Pros Players > Bots > Noobs Players

I'm not Pros, but if you play smart you can beat Expert difficulty with bots only, and every one of them can even survive
for Advanced bots more then enough

oh, but noobs) at least they will ask for advice, but check this out: some people leave their team and rush forward, after that they usually die and blame their mates.... which were left far far behind....
but the moment they back in game, they rush forward again and everything repeats over and over again

push boomer then shoot ?? no way !! hit that bastard with axe !! all your team should taste some of his vomit !!

Nick, 5 hp b/w:
- I'm not going to make it much longer, my friends... I am seriously screwed up!
Ellis, 90 hp green:
- Got pills !! Aahhh, much much better !!

[Cursed Hawkins]

Ok just as a mention, the first two AREN'T BUGS they're programming, There's a minimum distance required for the bots to constantly check for not only their weapons but as well as boomers if any of these come back to them as either false or true they will react until its corrected, the sniper thing as an example can be seen in Dark Carnival, bots will use the hunting rifle should threats be at long or medium range but the moment some come to short range they will swap to their pistols, the second one is again a programming thing not a bug, bots are coded to shove boomers away should they come close enough to where the splash from the explosion will cause them to be covered in bile but they can't control where the boomer goes or what it does all they can do is prevent it from causing a horde.

[Maur0]

Originally posted by Neuromaniac:

Originally posted by Maur0:

Pros Players > Bots > Noobs Players

I'm not Pros, but if you play smart you can beat Expert difficulty with bots only, and every one of them can even survive
for Advanced bots more then enough

oh, but noobs) at least they will ask for advice, but check this out: some people leave their team and rush forward, after that they usually die and blame their mates.... which were left far far behind....
but the moment they back in game, they rush forward again and everything repeats over and over again

push boomer then shoot ?? no way !! hit that bastard with axe !! all your team should taste some of his vomit !!

Nick, 5 hp b/w:
- I'm not going to make it much longer, my friends... I am seriously screwed up!
Ellis, 90 hp green:
- Got pills !! Aahhh, much much better !!

I always hate bots. But then when I get to use the "competitive bots" mod plus some plugins to improve them better, they are a lot more useful even when in advanced difficulty. Expert is a matter of great speed and attention, and the bots greatly improved their reaction time, although there are some things that needed to improve them and unfortunately could not be improved.

Also I am not bad with the noobs players, it is more I love to help them, but if they do not know how to communicate or ignore you, that is a serious problem.