Tryhards/"Pro Players" need separate servers

[Evil Tiger]

I really hate when i launch this game,Been playing it for like Six years now by the way,Always just for some casual Zombie vs Humans fun,And then a moron Tells me HOW i should play,What i should do, and he Ruins the fun for everyone by Being a BunnyHopping,Animation Cancelling Idiot with Expensive headphones So He could even play the Game Solo.Its just a joke.Why should i be matched with scum like this? I just want Casual zombie fun in versus. I dont want no wannabe Pro players Streamers Tryhards etc BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THE GAME THEY CARE ONLY ABOUT NUMBERS THEY DONT CARE ABOUT IMMERSION OR THE TOPIC OF ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. You can identify most of them by meme/anime girl/girly avatars and stupid usernames

[FireWolfBoy]

Just use the votekick function for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that. It’s there for a reason.

EDIT: A friend was kind enough to point out that you haven’t been playing for 6 years straight. You’ve probably only had it for that long but just hop in once in a while. Let me tell you upfront that if immersion is really what you’re looking for, Versus mode is not the place for that. You’ll have better luck in Campaign mode if you want to simply wander around.

[Sonya]

Playing a PVP mode for immersion is just as silly as playing for the numbers. A more serious vs player could write the same wall of text about you and sound completely in the right.

I mean, are people upset about you not being able to skeet hunters or not knowing every single death charge spot? Sure, they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
But if you're wandering around the map wasting time getting "immersed" by every corner right after your team cleared an attack and you're supposed to rush and cover as much distance as possible before SI get their next spawn - you're the problem here.

[geordiebroon58]

they are legit community servers dedicated to that

[Sleazy]

Originally posted by ♥:

Playing a PVP mode for immersion is just as silly as playing for the numbers. A more serious vs player could write the same wall of text about you and sound completely in the right.

I mean, are people upset about you not being able to skeet hunters or not knowing every single death charge spot? Sure, they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
But if you're wandering around the map wasting time getting "immersed" by every corner right after your team cleared an attack and you're supposed to rush and cover as much distance as possible before SI get their next spawn - you're the problem here.

+1
Some people wander around like this is Minecraft or something.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

There's a lot of such people in L4D2, some in the forums, who love to tell you what you can or can't do. Sucks but it's just part of L4D2.

[AustrAlien2010]

Just leave the server when that happens. We can´t change those people.
If you vote-kick them, they may freak out even more, or start holding grudges.

Leaving is a good solution, I think, because then they can just put it behind them, and they can't blame you for it either. At worst, they start accusing you of rage quitting, but we know better.

What they think is not important. The only thing that matters is what I think.

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

It is an issue in l4d that newer players get matched with vets and theres a knowledge gap. The vets have tings down to muscle memory, and know all the attack spots, insta kills etc. VS does very much become a numbers game after a while, timing rush breaks, managing throwables for specific sections/events. Keeping a quick and efficient pace is key, if your hampering that expect to get some stick in chat and be told to hurry up. Like someone else said immersing yourself in the world is cool, but best done away from a game where 7 other people are playing to win. Think about there fun as well.

Some vets are very forceful and get very angry at new players. However i think if you are nice about it then trying to teach instead of kick isa good thing. Iv always thought that one round with vets and a new player will learn 10x more than 10 rounds with other new players.

Iv given up trying to teach people more complicated stuff on the fly in pub games. I do still throw out little hints though like "Hey guys try not to spawn so early, so they dont know what we have, try spawn just before you attack" Just simple stuff like that. Not seen anyone get mad at it yet, id say all vets should just try to be respectful, and not treat other players like personal minions lol

Sometimes its us vets that should adapt our play to cater to the rest of the team, not expect the rest of the team to learn everything that took us hundreds of hours in a level or two :)

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

Sometimes its us vets that should adapt our play to cater to the rest of the team, not expect the rest of the team to learn everything that took us hundreds of hours in a level or two :)

That's rare and ill advised. You don't start taking orders from fresh recruits.
Reminds me of this scene in a war movie where a recruit went to tell the vets in his squad his name, and one said: "Don't tell me your name, you're green, survive two weeks and then you can tell me your name"

[Red™]

Play with friend. That’s the only advice we have for you.
Stop sucking at versus or play with friends

[FireWolfBoy]

Originally posted by Forsaken:

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

Sometimes its us vets that should adapt our play to cater to the rest of the team, not expect the rest of the team to learn everything that took us hundreds of hours in a level or two :)

That's rare and ill advised. You don't start taking orders from fresh recruits.
Reminds me of this scene in a war movie where a recruit went to tell the vets in his squad his name, and one said: "Don't tell me your name, you're green, survive two weeks and then you can tell me your name"

To be fair, I don’t think he specifically meant taking orders from new people and more like making the best out of the set of skills you get teamed up with. Like for example, if I notice someone is having trouble clearing Commons and defending themselves from Specials, I’ll keep a closer eye on them so I can clear them faster if ever they get pinned.

It’s like bolstering their strengths and filling in their weaknesses.

[FireWolfBoy]

Originally posted by The Red Onion™:

Play with friend. That’s the only advice we have for you.
Stop sucking at versus or play with friends

This.

Either play with a friend or bring a friend along to a Public match for votekick power.

[FireWolfBoy]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

Just leave the server when that happens. We can´t change those people.
If you vote-kick them, they may freak out even more, or start holding grudges.

Leaving is a good solution, I think, because then they can just put it behind them, and they can't blame you for it either. At worst, they start accusing you of rage quitting, but we know better.

What they think is not important. The only thing that matters is what I think.

If you votekick the offender, then they won’t even be there to freak out or hold grudges anymore. Just saying.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by FireWolfBoy:

Originally posted by Forsaken:

That's rare and ill advised. You don't start taking orders from fresh recruits.
Reminds me of this scene in a war movie where a recruit went to tell the vets in his squad his name, and one said: "Don't tell me your name, you're green, survive two weeks and then you can tell me your name"

To be fair, I don’t think he specifically meant taking orders from new people and more like making the best out of the set of skills you get teamed up with. Like for example, if I notice someone is having trouble clearing Commons and defending themselves from Specials, I’ll keep a closer eye on them so I can clear them faster if ever they get pinned. :Showdown:

It’s like bolstering their strengths and filling in their weaknesses.

You are as strong as the weakest link as the saying goes. So you don't really get a lot of Vets who want to protect the weaker members, but I hear what you're saying.

[Red™]

Also; OP have 136 hours on l4d2.
Is these 6 years spent on Xbox 360? If it was then welcome to pc gaming. Don’t be a baby and they won’t be toxic back to you. If they’re toxic to you, just ignore

[FireWolfBoy]

Originally posted by Forsaken:

Originally posted by FireWolfBoy:

To be fair, I don’t think he specifically meant taking orders from new people and more like making the best out of the set of skills you get teamed up with. Like for example, if I notice someone is having trouble clearing Commons and defending themselves from Specials, I’ll keep a closer eye on them so I can clear them faster if ever they get pinned.

It’s like bolstering their strengths and filling in their weaknesses.

You are as strong as the weakest link as the saying goes. So you don't really get a lot of Vets who want to protect the weaker members, but I hear what you're saying.

I agree with that line, although you can prevent the chain from breaking as long as they stick together. When I say “come here if you want to live” to my teammates and they stick with me, it makes things a whole lot easier for everyone:

1. If the Infected team attacks the newbies, I’ll instakill them.
2. If the Infected team attacks me, I’ll still instakill them and if by any chance there’s a lapse in my defense for a particular ambush e.g. skeeted a Hunter and cut a Smoker tongue but failed to kill a Jockey behind me, at least one of the newbie teammates is there to shoot/shove to save me.

Like what you mentioned though, not every vet enjoys babysitting but it’s a better challenge for me compared to the usual rush through Versus.