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Boomer seems too weak
He should get a buff, I mean he only has like 50 hp and it takes him 30 seconds to vomit bile again
Last edited by Isaac Ray Pelham Westcott; Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:04pm
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Juniper Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:18pm 
A situational SI, having its design based solely on indirectly assisting its team. Capable of creating a diversion no other Infected can pull off whilst being reliant on it at the same time. Providing the cappers with a solid foundation they can capitalize upon.

You tell me.. another SI capable of something like this..
Maur0 Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:22pm 
For me the Boomer is pretty fair. It can be the weakest, slowest and slow recharge your vomit. But let's not forget that he has certain advantages that make it possible against the survivors:
  • It can attract such a horde for every survivor vomited.
  • It distorts the vision of the players, preventing them from seeing well.
  • Its explosion can push back the survivors and even vomit them.
  • The explosion can even break doors and windows, fly loose objects, and I'm not sure but it may be possible to alert the witch and can also sound the car alarm.

In addition to playing much better as the boomer is better to know certain tricks and skills to learn how to better manage the boomer. For example, these guides:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113762019
Section: Boomer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dhqA-DbENA
Skip: 0:16

Anyway if you knew how to change the cvars commands for the online game, either using the admin system mod or the sourcemod, you can put these commands to buff the boomer (according to my style).
"boomer_vomit_delay" 0 "z_exploding_health" 100 "z_exploding_speed" 210 "z_vomit_interval" 20 "z_vomit_fade_duration" 0.1 "z_vomit_fade_start" 0.1 "z_vomit_duration" 1 "z_vomit_fatigue" 0.1
This will be exactly like the spitter and may even vomit in motion (only for the player, since the bot can not).
💞 lilmama 💞 (Banned) Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:24pm 
I hate the boomer especially when playing versus.
Dr Chaos MK Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:26pm 
I have seen a single Boomer cause multiple people to die in Campaign Normal . CAMPAIGN NORMAL out of all things ! Sure the Boomer itself does not do the damage . But like Phantowm said , it's indirect abilities gives the infected a chance to lay down the pain on the survivors . Add in the fact Boomers act faster & smarter on Advanced or Expert , then you will see first hand how much of a threat they are .

But I do agree with this thread topic . Part of what makes a Boomer a threat is the vomit causes blindness onto a survivor . Take that away & you now have a heavily compromised special infected . You do not need to look more farther than the workshop to find a easy way to subscribe to a add - on that FULLY removes the blindness . Valve removed these over the years . But it seems it does not stop authors from recreating them . Sad really . . .
Last edited by Dr Chaos MK; Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:27pm
Juniper Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:30pm 
Ahh yes, the video made by Roydus. Truly a gem of its own.
Gracey Face Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:32pm 
No zombie is supposed to survive an attack so the vomit cooldown doesn't actually matter. Ideally you rocket-boom in and either die and get everyone that way or vomit, get everyone that way and then try to purposefully use your death explosion to stumble the guy who isnt pounced
Jackpot Sep 18, 2018 @ 2:57pm 
Horde needs fixing...
Theres times where it'll never appear, and I don't mean at the store in dead center... I mean in general.

Boomer is actually pretty good if I'm honest, sure maybe a slightly faster "reload" for his vomit may make him okay, but usually you don't want to keep a support infected unless it's really needed for an event.
Maur0 Sep 18, 2018 @ 3:18pm 
Oh and I almost forgot to mention. The boomer is even more dangerous when facing a tank, as they mentioned that it is a good support infected able to call the horde and distract the survivors while the tank takes advantage. It all depends on what situation they are and what perfect places they are to vomit them. While the survivors also have grenades to get rid of the horde before the tank arrives.

Now it would be worse if you are vomited, in addition to the horde, the infected bots like the hunter, jockey, charger and tank can attack the vomited survivor (smoker and spitter have no effect) which you would be attracted very quickly and if this situation happens in the that these incap, the boomer vomits you and the tank comes, consider yourself dead because it will crush you to death.
Royal Mummy Sep 18, 2018 @ 3:56pm 
hey ur that guy who got banned on the tf2 forum
S E X Y Sep 18, 2018 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Qwerty The Real Azerty:
He should get a buff, I mean he only has like 50 hp and it takes him 30 seconds to vomit bile again
Lol if boomer reload faster the bile
Will boomer became op??
S E X Y Sep 18, 2018 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by Smexy Likeok4™:
Horde needs fixing...
Theres times where it'll never appear, and I don't mean at the store in dead center... I mean in general.

Boomer is actually pretty good if I'm honest, sure maybe a slightly faster "reload" for his vomit may make him okay, but usually you don't want to keep a support infected unless it's really needed for an event.
I never had this problem
Always at store comes the Horse
And always Horse come to ♥♥♥♥ all the team
Gracey Face Sep 18, 2018 @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by Ultra:
Originally posted by Smexy Likeok4™:
Horde needs fixing...
Theres times where it'll never appear, and I don't mean at the store in dead center... I mean in general.

Boomer is actually pretty good if I'm honest, sure maybe a slightly faster "reload" for his vomit may make him okay, but usually you don't want to keep a support infected unless it's really needed for an event.
I never had this problem
Always at store comes the Horse
And always Horse come to ♥♥♥♥ all the team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUl9_5kK9ts
Jackpot Sep 18, 2018 @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by Ultra:
Originally posted by Smexy Likeok4™:
Horde needs fixing...
Theres times where it'll never appear, and I don't mean at the store in dead center... I mean in general.

Boomer is actually pretty good if I'm honest, sure maybe a slightly faster "reload" for his vomit may make him okay, but usually you don't want to keep a support infected unless it's really needed for an event.
I never had this problem
Always at store comes the Horse
And always Horse come to ♥♥♥♥ all the team
I may of worded it wrong...
But at Save 4 Less store in dead center once you go THROUGH the gunstore you'll get to open store and trigger event... ANY booms there never triggers a common until either you trigger the event or go back far enough...
That's the one I wasn't refering to when I saw hordes won't appear... I meant as in say you were near the start of dark carnival... Map 1 or Map 2, whatever... And you get boomed NEAR or after you come out... NO horde can sometimes not come or even instead just three zombies... JUST three, aka the horde of zombies are inconsistant and bile doesn't seem to be working all the time even though it's a successful bile hit and only few zombies come...

Originally posted by ᅚ﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽:
hey ur that guy who got banned on the tf2 forum
kek'd
PapaDogg Sep 18, 2018 @ 5:44pm 
I don't really play valve versus to know what needs buffs and doesn't. But I can say on my servers I run boomers with 210 movement speed and 15 second vomit cooldowns. Paired that with expert reaction time on all difficulties to get a great special a bit more on terms with the spitter. Situationally they seem to outclass each other.

But as was stated earlier, boomer is kinda easily weaked and exploited thanks to his default low movement speed, long cooldowns, and the access to vomit overlay removers. If you even have any business playing versus then you would know how to clear a horde with your team before it really affected you.

Vanilla boomer shows no mercy if you make a mistake or use your vomit. 30 seconds of waiting for a recharge which is even longer than respawning, or using an extremely risky / suicidal play which may f - up your teammates thanks to the knockback of a boomer explosion.
Last edited by PapaDogg; Sep 18, 2018 @ 5:51pm
S E X Y Sep 18, 2018 @ 6:59pm 
Originally posted by What a wanker!:
Originally posted by Ultra:
I never had this problem
Always at store comes the Horse
And always Horse come to ♥♥♥♥ all the team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUl9_5kK9ts
Horde b lyat horde
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