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Is M16 the worst in all 4 rifles?
M16 just has 32 damage for one shoot and not as accurate as SCAR and SG552, can someone tell me what are the advantages of M16?:steamsad:
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Nosfrat Dec 1, 2017 @ 3:07am 
They all have their strengths and weaknesses.

The SCAR is very accurate but has low damage output due to the pause between bursts, and a very long reload.
The M16 is the most balanced of all rifles, decent ccuracy and good fire rate makes it reliable at almost all ranges.
The AK-47 is very strong and conserves ammo nicely, but anything beyond middle range requires crouched single shots.

I haven't used the other rifle so I can't say anything about it. I'd say with a laser sight, the AK-47 is the clear winner but without lasers, it's really situational. The M16 is the default middle ground rifle, performs well in every situation but doesn't excel in any.
Moryalti Dec 1, 2017 @ 3:15am 
Weapon preferences and leanings aside, I, sadly, usually say yes. As much as I love the M16A2, it just falls off as you turn up the difficulty in both Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2.

It's pretty bad in Left 4 Dead 2 as its way too easy to burn up all the ammo for it whereas in the original game it wasn't AS bad of an issue with how many more ammo piles there were on top of tier 2 weapons being the original trio only so an M16 to refresh the ammo stock on was always a possibility too.

It's actually pretty bad when I can tell when an AI survivor burned up all their ammo for an M16 when they're exclusively using their pistols on say The Parish's finale.
Rattling Rambler Dec 1, 2017 @ 4:04am 
Like Nosfrat said, it is the middle ground of all the rifles, but like the smg and uzi, it is a quick way to dish out damage and pretty good for getting si and commons off of survivors as a covering fire tool when you have to run and gun or snipe.
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Phil khajeets Dec 1, 2017 @ 6:04am 
Originally posted by NicoNicoNi!:
M16 just has 32 damage for one shoot and not as accurate as SCAR and SG552, can someone tell me what are the advantages of M16?:steamsad:
It is bad because It is an american weapon
NicoNicoNi! Dec 1, 2017 @ 6:08am 
It is bad because It is an american weapon
Best Reason!!:steamhappy:
Blaquicat Dec 1, 2017 @ 6:44am 
It's basically your choice, besides CSS weapons, all weapons are well balanced according their tier.
But in the end it's just you choice either way, I usually only use tier 1 weapons, and with friends we have no problem cakewalking realism expert..
We mostly play versus, so any coop is a cakewalk.
Samwise Dec 1, 2017 @ 7:50am 
Its all about damage per second. M16 is the second most high dmg dealing AR of the the three. Scar does actually the most dmg per shot, but least per second. Also if any of the 3 burst bullets miss the damage is least per shot. Ak does the most dmg per second but its accuracy means you must be crouching or that dmg gets a lot smaller because of the missed bullets.

Its all about distance, skill of the player and the map. I wouldn't ever take Scar to rush parts, but on other parts its decent if you tend to run out of ammo easily.

If i were to rank the three rifles in general, its 1. Ak 2. M16 3. Scar/desert rifle.

Game is pretty well balanced. All guns have dmg and accuracy variant, but only assault rifles they have middle ground, which is the scar/desert rifle.
Blaquicat Dec 1, 2017 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by Samwise:
Its all about damage per second. M16 is the second most high dmg dealing AR of the the three. Scar does actually the most dmg per shot, but least per second. Also if any of the 3 burst bullets miss the damage is least per shot. Ak does the most dmg per second but its accuracy means you must be crouching or that dmg gets a lot smaller because of the missed bullets.
Where do you get that information from?
Its the lower dps of all tier 2 weapons (with a few exceptions)

http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/AK-47
http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Assault_Rifle
http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Combat_Rifle

Hell, silenced smg has a better DPS than m16, the only difference is damage per shoot and accuracy on longe range.
http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Silenced_Submachine_Gun
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Nosfrat Dec 1, 2017 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Samwise:
Scar does actually the most dmg per shot

No, the AK-47 has the highest damage per shot. Without delving into actual damage value, just fire at a common infected in normal campaign: the AK-47 is a one-hit kill while the SCAR needs two shots to secure a kill.
JamesMaracuja Dec 1, 2017 @ 8:28am 
The m16 is better at spraying heads in realism than the ak47 and scar because of it's large mag, firerate and lower accuracy. It's forgiving if your shot wasn't perfectly aimed however this niche is already filled by the smgs which offer a way bigger ammo pool.
Crokite Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:00am 
M16 have a excellent precision but lack of high dmg. AK-47 are the opposite of M16, Scar are slow due the 3burst only but a mix of M16 and AK-47.
imo ofc
Cursed Hawkins Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:
If I had to make a list, it would be somewhat like this:

M16: rookie
AK47: amature
Israele rifle (or whatever it´s called): professional

You can´t claim any weapon to be the worst or the best, because that depends on it´s wielder´s experience with it.


Btw, what is this 4th rifle that you speak of?
Really dude! You don't know how to type SCAR?
Nosfrat Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:
Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:
If I had to make a list, it would be somewhat like this:

M16: rookie
AK47: amature
Israele rifle (or whatever it´s called): professional

You can´t claim any weapon to be the worst or the best, because that depends on it´s wielder´s experience with it.


Btw, what is this 4th rifle that you speak of?
Really dude! You don't know how to type SCAR?

To be fair, the game calls it "desert rifle" and never refers to it by its actual name. Desert, Israel... you could draw a connection, I believe.

Though I'm not sure what he means by rookie/amateur/pro, like how skilled do you have to be to make optimal use of the weapon? I'm pretty sure it all comes down to pointing at something and shooting it, over time you get used to how the weapon handles.
Cursed Hawkins Dec 1, 2017 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Nosfrat:
Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:
Really dude! You don't know how to type SCAR?

To be fair, the game calls it "desert rifle" and never refers to it by its actual name. Desert, Israel... you could draw a connection, I believe.

Though I'm not sure what he means by rookie/amateur/pro, like how skilled do you have to be to make optimal use of the weapon? I'm pretty sure it all comes down to pointing at something and shooting it, over time you get used to how the weapon handles.
Most games never use a real life name of the weapons in them like the AK-47 in L4D2 from what i heard is more of an AKM and not an AK-47
Blaquicat Dec 1, 2017 @ 10:09am 
Originally posted by Nosfrat:
Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:
Really dude! You don't know how to type SCAR?

To be fair, the game calls it "desert rifle" and never refers to it by its actual name. Desert, Israel... you could draw a connection, I believe.

Though I'm not sure what he means by rookie/amateur/pro, like how skilled do you have to be to make optimal use of the weapon? I'm pretty sure it all comes down to pointing at something and shooting it, over time you get used to how the weapon handles.
https://fnamerica.com/products/rifles/fn-scar-16s/
It is called scar in real life..
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