Can't do more than 13 chains consistently

[Ka'shurio]

I can do 11 to 12 chains rather consistently.

13 chains require some luck - by having the right dropsets at the start and back (such that I don't 'top out'), although it can be still be done. I have around 5 replays recorded today and yesterday, where I got 13 chains, using GTR formation.

However, I have only gotten a 14 chain once, and it was entirely out of luck - it was not planned, since the puyos landed accidentally from the top and got a 14 chain.

I've been trying really hard to replicate that, but it seems that 13 chains is my absolute limit.

I achieve this either using:

1) Free style - building successively one chain at a time, but this is harder to get higher chains, although it chains very fast. In Versus mode, I realistically get around 10-11 chains fast (chaining any higher in versus is not realistic due to harassment).

2) GTR - building the transition first, then building the tail simultaneously to save up puyos. I've had most success using this. However, once I hit the second storey, I build one chain at a time, which wastes some puyos. I've seen some pros build the chains on the second storey while building the 2nd storey's transition simultaneously, but I can't do that yet.

Is there a trick to get 14 chains easily?

I'm incapable of progressing past 13 chains. Could it be fate that I'm cursed without a 4th frontal gyrus and heavily expanded inferior parietal lobes that I cannot do such superhuman feats like Gauss or Einstein?

[Manukiru]

you dont need to worry about getting 14s consistently for matches. 12's and 13s in a real match are just fine, since most of it will be firing off small short chains back and forth. but to answer your question, i'd say you should practice doing both 3 and 2 column wide tails, having the variety available to you could reduce some of the luck required. and in the same way you build gtr first. you should also work on your second transition first. that way you can build in "2 directions" while on the second floor as well. toward/from your trigger point, and from your second transition. and of course practice as many different chaining forms as you can.

basically you want to keep as many options open as possible

[Ka'shurio]

Thanks for the tip ^_^

The second transition for me is the issue.

Since there are no guides around, like the GTR for the first floor, I can only join Puzzle League to hope and queue up against people who can do 14 chains, so I can purposely lose, and record the replay to see how they did it.

[Ka'shurio]

Update as of right now (since yesterday, so all these were what I did in 2 days of chaining):

No luck so far ...

Did eight 13-chains (I recorded all of the replays)
Did twenty 12-chains
Did eleven 11-chains
Did five 10-chains (due to color conflict)
Did four 9-chains (due to color conflict)

But still zero 14-chains ...

@O@ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@_@

T_T


Entering Puyo heaven requires participants to be able to do 14-chains consistently. Since I can only do 13-chains consistently, the only other entry for me is Puyo hell. I will never ever be able to join Puyo masters like SL2Softener in the land of paradise after my death. Genghis Khan, Stalin, Polpot, Hitler, Jeffrey Drahmer and O J Simpson will be the people I will end up hanging out with after death ...

[SuperSnivy]

Why bother with 13 or 14 chains when you can do a 2 or 3 power chain and you block their triggers?

Just look at SL2 being annihilated by Tom. I don't remember if the latter had to do more than 10 chains even once.

That's the "Puyo heaven" you say. Not going for the bigger chain, but being able to pay attention to the other board and knowing when to do tiny attacks. (Which is dramatically harder than it sounds, hence why the top JP Puyo players are still far ahead of the top non-JP Puyo player)

[Ka'shurio]

Originally posted by Siggu:

Why bother with 13 or 14 chains when you can do a 2 or 3 power chain and you block their triggers?

lol, because my entire ego in this game is built upon being able to build 14-chains :P

I played from the first Puyo Puyo version on Sega 20 years back, then played Puyo Fever 1 and 2, Puyo 7, 15th and 20th Anniversary, then this, and even till now I still cannot do a 14-chain, so if I cannot do it, my ego will be destroyed until the point of no return T___T

To fail to be able to do 14-chains even after playing so many versions of this game is the ultimate humiliation for me T____T

Edit: it's like having been through 5 universities over 20 years but failing to get a single thesis done ... The 14-chain is the pinnacle of skill in this game, much like how a thesis is the apex of skill for college. So to fail to do 14-chain consistently for me is extremely humiliating >_____< ... Maybe I just don't have Einstein's fourth frontal gyrus, lol

[Manukiru]

about that thing about there being no guides. did you just mean for really big chains? cause theres still https://puyonexus.com/wiki/How_to_Play_Puyo_Puyo and https://puyonexus.com/wiki/List_of_Chaining_Forms for basically everything you need to know about puyo puyo. (also 14 isnt the pinnacle of skill. its possible to to 19 chains in a controlled environment) but yeah if you study those chain forms. i know you can do it. i believe in you!

[Ka'shurio]

Originally posted by Manukiru:

about that thing about there being no guides. did you just mean for really big chains? cause theres still https://puyonexus.com/wiki/How_to_Play_Puyo_Puyo and https://puyonexus.com/wiki/List_of_Chaining_Forms for basically everything you need to know about puyo puyo. (also 14 isnt the pinnacle of skill. its possible to to 19 chains in a controlled environment) but yeah if you study those chain forms. i know you can do it. i believe in you!

Thanks ^_^

I meant guides for ultra-long chains (14 or higher). My main problem lies in building the second transition on the second floor. I typically use GTR on the first floor, but free-style on the second floor.

[Ka'shurio]

Originally posted by Siggu:

That's the "Puyo heaven" you say. Not going for the bigger chain, but being able to pay attention to the other board and knowing when to do tiny attacks. (Which is dramatically harder than it sounds, hence why the top JP Puyo players are still far ahead of the top non-JP Puyo player)

Actually I just wanted to say ... even though I've achieved 14-chains recently, when I went to the entrance of "Puyo Heaven", I saw a bunch of deceased JP Puyo players, who looked at me, and laughed after I said I did 14 chains and should be able to enter heaven.

However, they just laughed, and they said that doing 14-chains is not a determinant of skill. The real skill, lies in the ability to master "Tom-style", the hybrid GTR-hellfire style used by Tom, the highest ranking JP Puyo player.

Then I resisted ... I tried to force my way into Puyo heaven as I deserved it. And then I saw SL2Softener's spirit beside me, saying: "Your time is not up ... you must go back ... and master Tom style, or you will become like me ..." then I was brought into a portal, where I entered "Puyo Hell" - this is where all of the players who have been defeated by the vicious chaining efficacy of JP players have been to. Everyone here was being incinerated. Sinners, such as those people like me, who cared only for 14 chains, are left here to burn forever.

I knew then, what had to be done - to avoid Puyo Hell, the only thing I can do then was to come back to my body and practise more.

I then woke up from that terrible nightmare ...