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vittau

Mar 2, 2018 @ 9:10pm

How do you improve in these games?

If you just keep playing by yourself, you'll simply develop bad habits and stay there forever.

Kinda like in racing simulation games, where for instance, one of the best ways to improve is to look at telemetry data and see exactly where you're being slow. So, what's the "telemetry" equivalent in Puyo Puyo and Tetris?

I play Puyo Puyo since I was a kid (in Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine), and while I'm decent at it (can manage 5-6 chains with reasonable ease), I feel like I've reached a plateau and I'm not improving anymore.
And Tetris, well, I suck at it. I simply can't see ahead to create T-spin opportunities and chains.

So, how was/is your approach to improve, and not just keep repeating your mistakes over and over again?

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Ultimate despair has Puyo Puyo™Tetris®

Mar 2, 2018 @ 9:17pm

Well, i've watched some videos from the official channel.... it helped me to improve and know some mechanics. I've tried to pratice some of them with versus IA . and after that , when i play i watch some opportunites to make certain moves. in terms of puyo i can't help too much, but when i've watched the stairs tech it helped me a lot. If you try to use t-spin , you will see that you can create some setups . Obviously you will not make a triple t-spin every time, but if you focus just on the double one helps a lot.

Duskyer

Mar 2, 2018 @ 9:20pm

I was terrible at tetris until I was forced to get better in the adventure mode. 5-9 was hell. I watched some videos and after 50+ tries I finally won. It all comes down to practice. Simply winning isn't good enough. You need to get destroyed so that you get angry and find ways to improve yourself.

Grottowalker has Puyo Puyo™Tetris®

Mar 2, 2018 @ 9:35pm

for tetris most improvment comes out of cleaner block placement.
simply understanding possible ways blocks can fit together and being able to understand what your playing feild looks like and what peices you could place where, if they were to come up.

pretty much the more you play the more you start to see the surface of your playing feild as 'what could possibly go there' then you see your next 3 peices and place them as you planned.

the more you play the more it becomes natural.

that being said there are lots of things you can learn to make your self better at tetris.

my recomended starting point would be the perfect clear. aka Bravo

the reason being for a few things.

first-
it gets you to think of the peices as a set of them, you will see how 4 of the peices work together to make a large a square, and how the other 3 work to make a 'triangle'.
when it comes to quick block placement you will have a better vission of where to put what when you are trying to build organized as you know what blocks fit well with eachother in this patten.

second- to pull off a perfect clear you need one of each peice[7], then 3 of the next random peices you can not always pull off a perfect clear start but this is part of the brain excersize

working on being able to setup the first of each 7 peices will strenghen you mindset for block order, as you need to look at which blocks goes where and to see if you got an order that will give you a much easier peice placement [when you need to hold a peice to get the setup, or slow drop the square into the L and J in the even that they are placed sideways]

the second step, is getting the perfect clear with the next 3 peices.
iirc the math on the RNG of what 3 peices you can get, and holding to swap the order you have about a 60% chance to pull off a perfect clear each start of the game.

this excersizes your brain to think about what happens when you clear lines in a certan way

while you do not need to do a perfect clear at each start of the game, learning to do so will strenghen how you see the blocks fitting to gether with possible outcomes.

http://tetris.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Clear_Guide

while T spins reward lots of points and sent lines, Bravo starter setup will get you thinking about spinning all the other tetriminos with the SRS in play.

you could learn a few T spin starter setups, but i feel they won't cover as much ground mentaly as learning perfect clears. good to learn in tandem with them though.

Last edited by Grottowalker; Mar 2, 2018 @ 9:39pm