How to counter Amy ?

[Schadenfreude]

Yo guys I need your help. Every Amy that I encountered in MM are fast af and I don't know how to deal with them. Do you have any tips ?

[MartinCZech]

Call her flat chest.

[Schadenfreude]

o o f

[MartinCZech]

2a helps countering her aggresion also try to play footsies against her she got bad range.

[MartinCZech]

Try to use attacks that push her away so she gotta come to you again.

[MartinCZech]

Who are you playing?

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by MartinCZech:

Who are you playing?

I'm actually playing Tira so I have a bad range too x_x

[DarkWaterDemon]

Maybe consider picking up a character with long-reach like Seong Mi-Na? I was just practicing more Amy combos with a friend yesterday and Mi-Na's range can be a good counter to Amy's lack thereof despite her rapid attacks.

[DarkWaterDemon]

Other good potential counters due to having better range include Azwel, Ivy (If you can memorize her stances and follow-ups), 2B (Like Martin said above), -Maybe- Siegfried and Kilik, and I'm sure there are others.

Not Astaroth though. He's a slow boi. plsnobullyhim.

[ChaozGamer]

I can do it with Asta "sorta" depending on who is on the other side of that amy, I grew up playing asta like he was a zoner before utelizing his grab game

[DarkWaterDemon]

Originally posted by ChaozGamer:

I can do it with Asta "sorta" depending on who is on the other side of that amy, I grew up playing asta like he was a zoner before utelizing his grab game

Yeah, I can see that. I also used to zone with Astaroth a lot in the older games so from one fellow Asta player to another I can imagine it works like you said: depending on the type of player playing as Amy. She's what you'd call a "Snowball" type character (one who starts off the match okay and in some cases weaker than most, but becomes crazy-strong over the course of said match if you give them any breathing room.)

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Sown-Laughter:

You can't sidestep her UB since it comes out in less than a few frames; you have to NOT be holding block to walk out, you have to hold block to block her bs; and depending on what she strikes with you cant counter or punish and she can rinse repeat that BS frame trap that locks you in place over and over.

you can also duck instead of stepping. stepping is risky, because the first input of the UB is an A, and that will stuff movement towards 8. you have to anticipate the UB coming. it only can come after the middle parry stance, or after the B from her 236 stance, if you see those coming, be ready for the UB.

i need to lab it, but it should be possible to stuff the opening A every time with GI or even RE. a ducking low should also stuff it. you should be able to duck the A and hit a WR B, which for many characters is lethal on counter.

[POLICE]

Amy is such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ OP character. Even offline her insane set of lows are extremely hard to block but online it's a real joke. Even a low skill Amy player will give you troubles. She can punish you like no other character. There is no such character that can pressure you like Amy. It's a pay to win character. It has to be expected, who's gonna buy Amy if she was a low tier character. Namco did it on purpose to bait people to buy that crazy character as a DLC and to have easy wins. Amy players are climbing rank like crazy.

[Beardless Man]

Originally posted by Gatsu:

Amy is such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ OP character. Even offline her insane set of lows are extremely hard to block but online it's a real joke. Even a low skill Amy player will give you troubles. She can punish you like no other character. There is no such character that can pressure you like Amy. It's a pay to win character. It has to be expected, who's gonna buy Amy if she was a low tier character. Namco did it on purpose to bait people to buy that crazy character as a DLC and to have easy wins. Amy players are climbing rank like crazy.

Originally posted by Sown-Laughter:

Originally posted by DarkWaterDemon:

Maybe consider picking up a character with long-reach like Seong Mi-Na? I was just practicing more Amy combos with a friend yesterday and Mi-Na's range can be a good counter to Amy's lack thereof despite her rapid attacks.

whats the point of a main if it cant handle everyone? lol 700+ hrs with maxi .
Oh look DLC . OP and spammy .

Better waste more time learning some one who can beat One broken character, forget the point of having a main that can beat everyone.

no ; shes busted af. She should have gotten limits to her super moves and flowers lowered to 1\2 requirements; and the damage raised a bit. either that or she should have a limited time that flower powers will stay active.

Her spam bs is BS.
She can be dealt with offline just fine.
But online Amy can mash inputs so fast you cant even counter her.
You can't sidestep her UB since it comes out in less than a few frames; you have to NOT be holding block to walk out, you have to hold block to block her bs; and depending on what she strikes with you cant counter or punish and she can rinse repeat that BS frame trap that locks you in place over and over. And sure every other character can probably counter this crap: but NOT everyone can counter her BS equally.

If all you got is hey Amy is fine; try learning some one else.

No that's not a solution.
Hey you can't win a single match vs one character.
Quit and learn some one else?

I have tried to use Amy and her BS is so out of sorts OP.
She can counter faster than any other character she has limited range but her combos rush worse than maxi and Taki combined into one, and she is damn near unbeatable on purple.

You can't use Ukemi as soon as she has red cause she spams the BS out of the air combo. and as soon as she has white you cant take your eyes off her for a second or you're in flip **** city.

Simple hints about Amy.

Amy is a fast, small character who's entire game is to push out her white and red roses as soon as she can to unlock her full arsenal. Her flaw however is her range. Range is Amy's biggest weakness which one needs to abuse. She has many block/GI attacks to help keep herself close. Knowing when to strike is the big key here.

Amy is extremely vertical reliant. So abuse her vertical game by side stepping. Characters like Nightmare, Ivy, Kilik, and Seong Mina are great match ups against Amy as they can keep her at bay.

[Beardless Man]

Originally posted by Sown-Laughter:

BS shes not anything like Ralph in terms of Abuse her vertical game.
Half of her Verticals hold you into place right after or before horizontals.
Yes Every long range distance character is weak against a minimal range character.

Unless she steps in then your held in place helpless and 1\2 the time you need a medium far mid range to dodge and attack her. Your best bet is Block\dodge all flowers and beat her senseless over and over.

If it wasn't for Amy id have been in C rank by now. Amy and Ralph are just mash friendly bs characters.
At least 2B you can Ukemi out of the BS, but Ralph you have to know his 2-3 hit combos and stay low block the 3rd then counter repeat. And on his SC you have to pay serious attention with high defense.

Amy you have to play against like its Ralph on a slow burning SC crack.

As soon as she gets purple you have to counter everything and keep her grounded over and over.

Beat the lolita dead before she can toss 5 flowers per round, that's my working advice.

And if you don't know your characters moves enough then you are screwed easily.
How BS jank Amy is ATM, A novice can learn, a few counters and floor people learning.

A novice G rank should nor be able to tear apart a freaking E-D vet.

Amy is totally P2W as far as learning blindly. and she can say Low then go in medium. She is a mashing mind game monster in novice hands and a terror in vet hands.

I said nothing about her being like Raphael. I currently main as her, and know for 100% certain that range is Amy's weakness. She has a laundry list of Vertical attacks that can be abused, this means utilizing GI-Attacks that block vertical blows is grand in fighting back. Amy's mix up game is one of the better types but she's quite predictable and weak to Guard impacts.

Originally posted by Sown-Laughter:

A novice G rank should nor be able to tear apart a freaking E-D vet.

This isn't always the case. Remember that Coul Calibur's an aged game.Assuming people are terrible by their rank is pointless. I've encountered hundreds of smurfs as well as experienced players alike.

You're not looking an in=depth look at Amy. IF you can, play her for a while and see her openings. Thats the crucial part about Amy and how open she really is. Her movement patterns are way more recognizable.

[ᛉᛏneon@stralᚨᛉ]

Answer to OP: Keep distance and sidestep punish