Tira is "weak"

[Schadenfreude]

Hi, main Tira right here. I play her a lot and she has "nothing" on her gameplay. She have 2 mood, Jolly and Gloomy, you always start a fight with the Jolly mood. But her moves are slow and her range is incredibly short. Of course you can change the mood but it's sometimes random and she doesn't really have something "spammable"... Even I practiced a lot with her, I still struggle with almost everyone on MM. I don't know if she gonna have some changes soon or later.. (Sorry if my english is bad btw)

[Roohee]

Incoming patch supposed to buff Tira, the dev said both Gloomy and Jolly should feel easier to play.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vArcHa2I0OU3wmy33sEqTWMleroUlODIciy3mw6gk90/edit#heading=h.9rjfomwpas5f

"The particularity of Tira is that she can change her personality: Jolly and Gloomy. The attacks are very differents between these two personalities. It switches randomly. The character is strong if the player manages that. That's what we had in mind when we created the character.

So far in SoulCalibur serie, everybody wanted to switch to gloomy as much as possible and stay in this stance as much as possible.

But what's the use of the Jolly side? We would like to be game situations for both sides.

And to improve the gameplay of personality change, we would like that it is not "I stay gloomy as much as possible", but rather that we switch frequently, and it is rewarding.

In fact it's a character that has been hard to build for the team because of the sidechange, and honestly there are lots of stuff about Tira known only by the development team. But we wanted that you know that Tira is one of the priority of the team.

Middle guy: Up to now our priority was patch 1.10, but because of that we could not handle too much about the balance of the game or the attacks. But on the patch 1.11 it will be done.

Oosaka: I think it's going to be easier to fight whether it's jolly or gloomy."

[Discane]

I saw quite decent Tira's online. It sure possible to defeat like 90% players with her online.

[Roohee]

Originally posted by Discane:

I saw quite decent Tira's online. It sure possible to defeat like 90% players with her online.

If they picked a Nightmare, they would win 100% of their opponents.

[AlphaASX]

Originally posted by Pepethor:

Originally posted by Discane:

I saw quite decent Tira's online. It sure possible to defeat like 90% players with her online.

If they picked a Nightmare, they would win 100% of their opponents.

Tira is one of the characters that can easily destroy nightmare :v

[Roohee]

Originally posted by AlphaASX:

Originally posted by Pepethor:

If they picked a Nightmare, they would win 100% of their opponents.

Tira is one of the characters that can easily destroy nightmare :v

If Nightmare is AFK.

[AlphaASX]

Originally posted by Pepethor:

Originally posted by AlphaASX:

Tira is one of the characters that can easily destroy nightmare :v

If Nightmare is AFK.

Are you talking serously? How do you compare the insanly fast hitting tira to slowest hitting nightmare?

[Seven ate you]

I'm just going to announce that Tira sucks and will probably never be good in this game and probably won't be good in the next soul calibur game she's in. I'm not even sure the devs like the character but I know they like her as she is.

[Clide]

Yeah she’s weak because she’s a hard to use character with too much rng built in her. Not impossible to win with her just becomes very hard.

[Nicely]

Actual tira main here, she's mid tier. Where she's been in every game. She has 3 moods, not two. Jolly, Gloomy, Gloomy Coda

[Power in Misery]

She's weak because she randomly swaps between rock-bottom tier and solidly mid tier randomly. They introduced her personality swaps in SCIV and are still forcing that terrible mechanic, pretty much ensuring that she'll never actually be good. Not "playable", I mean good.

It's terrible because she has one of the most unique and unconventional weapons in the series; but she's held back because the developers keep trying to force mechanics that have no place in a competitive fighting game.

[Cegopi]

I think her weakness is not all about the mood swaps, actually I like that. The problem is that both Jolly and Gloomy are a bit weak when compared to other characters.

I don't know where do some people get the "Nightmare is so slowww" thing, but everytime I face a Nightmare his ultra heavy sword moves at a speed that breaks the sound barrier and if you get hit by that once... goodbye to like 25% of hp and prepare to get tossed, like set flying out of the ring.
Some other characters like Raphael move at an insane speed like they can slow time or something.
Every character's got some things that could become overpowered, even Talim's got some "shotguns", however I don't se anything like that with Tira.

I hope she gets something overpowered in the upcoming patch so she can stand more chances with the rest of characters.

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by Cegopi:

I think her weakness is not all about the mood swaps, actually I like that. The problem is that both Jolly and Gloomy are a bit weak when compared to other characters.

I don't know where do some people get the "Nightmare is so slowww" thing, but everytime I face a Nightmare his ultra heavy sword moves at a speed that breaks the sound barrier and if you get hit by that once... goodbye to like 25% of hp and prepare to get tossed, like set flying out of the ring.
Some other characters like Raphael move at an insane speed like they can slow time or something.
Every character's got some things that could become overpowered, even Talim's got some "shotguns", however I don't se anything like that with Tira.

I hope she gets something overpowered in the upcoming patch so she can stand more chances with the rest of characters.

This is also exactly what I was thinking