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Susono May 9, 2019 @ 3:57pm
How to counter 2B?
I really don't know how to handle her, i have a pretty good idea, but all in all, its not fun fighting her.
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Thundercracker May 9, 2019 @ 5:08pm 
she has big huge windows in her strings, ripe for you to GI.

her lows are slow, just learn to recognize them.

hard to say too much more without knowing who you play.
Susono May 9, 2019 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Dr Gori:
she has big huge windows in her strings, ripe for you to GI.

her lows are slow, just learn to recognize them.

hard to say too much more without knowing who you play.
I main maxi most of the time.
Also thanks for the tips.
Fight her in training mode and really look for the openings where you can interrupt her; where you can land a successful GI or RE, and when you can sidestep. Her long attack strings often leaves her vunerable.
She can be a pain for sure, but once you start to recognize her strings, then it's only the really really good 2B players you'll need to worry about.
Susono May 9, 2019 @ 9:41pm 
Originally posted by Screaming Internally:
Fight her in training mode and really look for the openings where you can interrupt her; where you can land a successful GI or RE, and when you can sidestep. Her long attack strings often leaves her vunerable.
She can be a pain for sure, but once you start to recognize her strings, then it's only the really really good 2B players you'll need to worry about.
I do not own the DLC mind you)
Originally posted by Tasty Sergal:
I do not own the DLC mind you)

Ahh, I see. My bad.

Well if you want you could add me and we could play some Casual matches where I use 2B. I'm not great with her, but know the basics :)
Last edited by MGB | Screaming Internally; May 9, 2019 @ 9:45pm
Aya May 9, 2019 @ 9:55pm 
Let's see here:

-Don't play Geralt
-Most of her attacks have a sliding animation between hit strings. When you see this, you'll probably want to Reversal Edge or depending on your character, you should be able to knock her out of that slide.
-When using Reversal Edge on her, her strongest inputs are A and K if memory serves me correctly. I don't remember if her B input can Ring Out.
-Really don't play Geralt
HeartlessHealer May 9, 2019 @ 10:07pm 
The only thing I can really add that the others haven't mentioned already would be that during her slides, if 2B suddenly jumps backwards and aims her arm at you, that's the "command grab" coming at you via a flying gauntlet. You'll wanna guard or guard impact that. Quotes because it goes off of a hit, like a couple of Ivy's attacks do.
Alex Darkcrowne May 9, 2019 @ 10:24pm 
2B is actually fairly average, especially in comparison to someone like Azwel or Sophitia. This is due to several key failings.
-Severe guard impact. It's widely regarded that 2B is the most guard-impacted character in the game. Her strings are pretty unsafe on block and whiff, which leave her wide open.
-Linearity. If you see a 2B doing Momentum Shift (the dash), then, regardless of attack options, you have a clear idea what she's going to do. She'll move forward, which can leave her open to your verticals, launchers included.
-She suffers bad from zoning. If you control the pace and the spacing of the fight, then you can neuter 2B pretty damn well. She doesn't have that many options, as most of her stuff is pretty low range.
-Punishes are your best friend. She's got long recovery frames, so characters who specialize in punishing whiffs and blocks, (GERALT), work really well against her.
-Practice your GIs. On the flipside, her attacks have pretty clear windups, so anyone with a really good GI can do well.
-Reversal Edges. For RE sequences, her moves are all strong, though the kick is the best, due to it being an automatic launcher that can combo into a hard-hitting string. As such, counter-kicking her during REs is a good idea, though beware of the horizontal.
As a 2B main, I'd be happy to help.
Susono May 9, 2019 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by Aya Shameimaru:
Let's see here:

-Don't play Geralt
-Most of her attacks have a sliding animation between hit strings. When you see this, you'll probably want to Reversal Edge or depending on your character, you should be able to knock her out of that slide.
-When using Reversal Edge on her, her strongest inputs are A and K if memory serves me correctly. I don't remember if her B input can Ring Out.
-Really don't play Geralt
Haha, Geralt is still dope.
And yeah, she has very long attack changes, which is easy to predict, but i dont even want to make one mistake because if i do, im in for a long cinematic attack chain which i can do nothing bit sit through.
Susono May 9, 2019 @ 11:28pm 
Originally posted by Alex Darkcrowne:
2B is actually fairly average, especially in comparison to someone like Azwel or Sophitia. This is due to several key failings.
-Severe guard impact. It's widely regarded that 2B is the most guard-impacted character in the game. Her strings are pretty unsafe on block and whiff, which leave her wide open.
-Linearity. If you see a 2B doing Momentum Shift (the dash), then, regardless of attack options, you have a clear idea what she's going to do. She'll move forward, which can leave her open to your verticals, launchers included.
-She suffers bad from zoning. If you control the pace and the spacing of the fight, then you can neuter 2B pretty damn well. She doesn't have that many options, as most of her stuff is pretty low range.
-Punishes are your best friend. She's got long recovery frames, so characters who specialize in punishing whiffs and blocks, (GERALT), work really well against her.
-Practice your GIs. On the flipside, her attacks have pretty clear windups, so anyone with a really good GI can do well.
-Reversal Edges. For RE sequences, her moves are all strong, though the kick is the best, due to it being an automatic launcher that can combo into a hard-hitting string. As such, counter-kicking her during REs is a good idea, though beware of the horizontal.
As a 2B main, I'd be happy to help.
Id really appreciate some help. And yeah, i use Maxing and use GIs quite a bit to counter 2b (rarely.) I totally forgot about RE so its probably best to utilize that as much as possible, thanks!
Susono May 9, 2019 @ 11:29pm 
Originally posted by Screaming Internally:
Originally posted by Tasty Sergal:
I do not own the DLC mind you)

Ahh, I see. My bad.

Well if you want you could add me and we could play some Casual matches where I use 2B. I'm not great with her, but know the basics :)
Thanks, will see after i get more practice in with maxi :P
Aya May 9, 2019 @ 11:32pm 
Originally posted by Tasty Sergal:
Originally posted by Aya Shameimaru:
Let's see here:

-Don't play Geralt
-Most of her attacks have a sliding animation between hit strings. When you see this, you'll probably want to Reversal Edge or depending on your character, you should be able to knock her out of that slide.
-When using Reversal Edge on her, her strongest inputs are A and K if memory serves me correctly. I don't remember if her B input can Ring Out.
-Really don't play Geralt
Haha, Geralt is still dope.
And yeah, she has very long attack changes, which is easy to predict, but i dont even want to make one mistake because if i do, im in for a long cinematic attack chain which i can do nothing bit sit through.
The reason why i say "Don't play Geralt" is that she seems as if she's deliberately designed to be a hard counter to Geralt (I seem to play him the most as of late).

2B and Amy seem to give Geralt the most problems, and since we are talking about 2B specifically, I think it's worth noting that i've had much better matches against 2B players while playing as Azwel, Mitsurugi, Siegfried and Nightmare.
Alex Darkcrowne May 9, 2019 @ 11:55pm 
Geralt does fine against 2B. It's just a very tipsy matchup. His punishes are straight up gold against 2B, but if he can't pull them off, then there's the issue.
Seven ate you May 10, 2019 @ 1:26pm 
When she does a move that enters her AGS, which is her stance where she flies forward while ducking, just try REing. Just mix up that and blocking and you'll have a acceptable defense.

Also this attention ♥♥♥♥♥ is talking about Geralt. Geralt can space out 2B in the range she's uncomfortable in and yrden her pressure.

EDIT: what is English
Last edited by Seven ate you; May 10, 2019 @ 5:10pm
Aya May 11, 2019 @ 8:13pm 
Originally posted by Seven ate you:
Also this attention ♥♥♥♥♥ is talking about Geralt. Geralt can space out 2B in the range she's uncomfortable in and yrden her pressure.
To be fair, 2B's design intent seems to be "Hard counters Geralt", and playing him honestly feels like a surefire way to lose matches against 2B. Other characters seem to be much more evenly matched against her.

I might have to try out Zazalamel some more. I feel like his 6K would be a good counter to her dash attack
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