SOULCALIBUR VI

SOULCALIBUR VI

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Taweret Aug 22, 2019 @ 11:14am
How about Guts from Berserk as a guest character?
I saw the DLC characters they released so far and all of them are fanservice waifus...
Is really amazing that the game has Geralt but how the fk he fits with all these anime girls?
I would kill to have Guts fight Geralt in a video game, they both turns into uncontrollable beasts and both hunt monsters both have amazing personalities.
I loved Miura manga as much i liked Sapkowski saga.

I think Guts is the innermost dream of each hard die SC fanboi, the way his raw piece of iron is archetype of all these manga and videogames zanbatos, like FF Cloud bread and butter knife etc.

But we can't have Guts without his whole inventory since he utilized all of his arsenal to destroy demonic apostles:

Cannon Arm,

Repeater Crossbow,

Miniature Bombs,

Throwing Knives

Blood draining Berserker Armor and soul draining Dragon Slayer.

So he would be very versatile character, not really copypasta of Siegfried and Nightmare just because he uses another zanbato, Dragon Slayer.

The next amazing character from Berserk i would want is Zodd with dual wield weapons, raw brute force and savagery he would be pretty much Akuma of Soul Calibur!
but maybe it's a bit too late after all these DLC waifus reveals and this game dont have balls anymore...

While Berserk Musou wasnt that bad game, ill rather have Guts in real fightning game cuz musou are just slashers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqUgTTvDBvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWmk3xyY-qg

I personally never understood why Soul Calibur never had Guts when the game itself is great tribute to the Miura mangas, they both are from Japan and the game uses guest system. Perhaps Miura himself is not very proud of it because of copyright kind of stuff? but since it have Geralt now and Sapkowski personally didnt even like video games i don't see why they can't communicate with Miura, maybe they are waiting for better Soul Calibur times with a game actually worthly of such iconic character to come? (but that dont explain latest ♥♥♥♥♥♥ budget Berserk animes, so Miura dont really care that much about money) anyway Geralt vs Guts would be fight of the life! that why i would rather to have him in this game now, because the next ones might not have Geralt and i think Guts in the series is just matter of time...
Last edited by Taweret; Aug 22, 2019 @ 11:15am
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Geno Justice Aug 25, 2019 @ 7:51pm 
Originally posted by Dr Gori:
Originally posted by RustyRed:
The issue is that there is only so much you can do with a giant sword. We've got two of them already and both of them are rather diverse in the way they handle things. The only thing Guts would really add to the game would be the cannon arm. (His armor would be his soul charge).

Think about it, how would another character with a sword and shield setup be accepted? What the game needs is more diverse weapon sets. Setsuka, Hilde and Yun-seong fit that quote better.
if you watched the show/read the manga, you'd know that guts does not fight with his giant sword as if it is a giant sword. he uses it as a onehanded longsword. you can create a moveset of things he's done in the animes and not have a single bit of overlap with sig or nightmare.

Originally posted by Genocide Justice:

Game was so dead Okubo had to beg Namco for a season 2

https://i.imgur.com/gGFGKiX.png
....you didnt even read that, did you?

they did not plan on a season 2.... but because the game got so much love and support, a season two was approved. this proves my point, not yours.

And yet tekken 7 has Season 3 around the corner, DBFZ is finishing up season 2, MK11 season 1 is already selling like hotcakes. Harada doesn't have to lift a finger and he'll get another season if he wants to. Even got promoted to be the lead fg promoter, what special promotions has okubo gotten other than every soul calibur being extremely underwhelming after 2 and 3.

Defend this game to the death all you like but this game was built on scraps with minimal support from namco.

Also the legit worst FG out right now SFV has had 4 seasons so whats soul caliburs excuse for churning just 3 characters and customizable items.
Last edited by Geno Justice; Aug 25, 2019 @ 7:56pm
BlackRock Saber Aug 26, 2019 @ 12:34am 
they sell like hotcakes cause you guys dont know how to let games go. a fighting game really suppose to have a lifespan of 2-4yrs but you guys treat them like treasures. back then we let it go so they make new rosters. that is why you have recycled games.
Signed Picasso Aug 26, 2019 @ 5:09pm 
No anime characters please.
Maybe someone like finn from that american cartoon?
Jackal Aug 26, 2019 @ 5:42pm 
Yeah why don't we instead just go ahead and add Uncle Grandpa.
Taweret Aug 26, 2019 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by Assuage:
No anime characters please.
Maybe someone like finn from that american cartoon?
whether you like it or not SC is Japanese style 3d animation, i saw animes that were 3d example: Appleseed Alpha.
Signed Picasso Aug 26, 2019 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Jackal:
Yeah why don't we instead just go ahead and add Uncle Grandpa.

A man of his nation I see.
The over indulgence of a foreign culture as alien as the East will see the death of our own.
So shy away from the red eye in the white sky and enjoy local delicacies such as that.
Taweret Aug 26, 2019 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Jackal:
Yeah why don't we instead just go ahead and add Uncle Grandpa.
guts is daddy of siegfried and nightmare, why not add GUIN, guts daddy? hes basically King from Tekken swinging weapons.
Taweret Aug 26, 2019 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by Assuage:

A man of his nation I see.
The over indulgence of a foreign culture as alien as the East will see the death of our own.
So shy away from the red eye in the white sky and enjoy local delicacies such as that.

Berserk is the most european anime you can get... is not really that oriental it uses european mythology.
berserk happens in alter-europe:
https://imgur.com/2HxiZJB
http://skullknight.net/images/worldresemblance-small1.jpg
http://skullknight.net/images/worldresemblance-large2.jpg
http://skullknight.net/images/worldresemblance-small3.jpg

hundred years war is supposedly also related to european history,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War
https://berserk.fandom.com/wiki/Hundred-Year_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanishka
https://berserk.fandom.com/wiki/Ganishka

http://i.imgur.com/tLr7Gth.jpg
https://www.zonanegativa.com/imagenes/2017/07/Berserk_Koka_Segovia.jpg

only some examples of berserk lore.
Last edited by Taweret; Aug 26, 2019 @ 8:52pm
ShadowSplit Aug 26, 2019 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by Ojama King:
whether you like it or not SC is Japanese style 3d animation, i saw animes that were 3d example: Appleseed Alpha.
Appleseed Alpha is a good example. God, I miss that franchise. Not to mention is way better than GitS.

Regarding your question. Nah. Berserk is pretty niche piece of work, not to mention art style and overall themes are not for everyone. And we already have two (quite annoying from time to time) big sword wielders.

Originally posted by Ojama King:
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I personally never understood why Soul Calibur never had Guts when the game itself is great tribute to the Miura mangas, they both are from Japan and the game uses guest system.
Can you please describe in what way?
Taweret Aug 27, 2019 @ 12:07am 
Originally posted by NorthWind:
Regarding your question. Nah. Berserk is pretty niche piece of work, not to mention art style and overall themes are not for everyone. And we already have two (quite annoying from time to time) big sword wielders.
berserk sold as much copies or even more as yugioh, cobra, sailor moon, dr slump, saint seiya, death note, urusei yatsura and other classics, dont understimate it, its supposedly number 1 fantasy manga in japan, it has even more generic clone called: ubel blatt by square enix, literally in ubel blatt first chapter has horse rape lol

https://anilist.co/manga/30002/Berserk/

#1 Highest Rated All Time

#4 Most Popular All Time

and thats among non japanese fans mostly

in the way of medieval/fantasy europe setting but is a more mixed bag, dark souls definitely drain more from berserk universe than soul calibur. as well as goblin slayer.
tribute to dragon slayer lol, i think berserk popularized zanbatos in video games and manga,
and guts berserker armor + beast of darkness, reminds me nightmare... concept of living armor and guts dragon slayer also has similar properties of consuming souls but is not stated clearly since a lot in berserk is still mystery but we just know it lol.

come on, soul calibur isnt very original, just like for example claymore, berserk like manga with huge swords that is basically female witcher. dark 'souls', 'soul' calibur i think all comes from the fact guts dragon slayer can cut through spiritual plane because its like imbued with souls and kill ghosts. is technically soul blade. but soul calibur is in first place fightning game, secondary the lore, so is quite pointless to view it in lore regards, lore is just excuse for fightning fun.

"Normally, the Evil Seed transforms the person infected into a demonic monster and feeds off the host's inner sinful deeds of bloodlust, controlling and manipulating their actions"
it sounds to me like guts beast of darkness.
Last edited by Taweret; Aug 27, 2019 @ 12:24am
ShadowSplit Aug 27, 2019 @ 12:57am 
Originally posted by Ojama King:
...snip...
If I'm not wrong all those manga are finished a long time ago. If all the pointless brutality was toned down the manga would be so limited.

Never heard of that manga.

I think it's hard to find something that doesn't draw its inspiration from other works. The first chapter of Berserk (if my memory serves me well) looks like Conan the Barbarian film. So that is also one source of inspiration. Cannon arm I think is based on some medieval German knight with similar prosthetic. Dragon Ball is based on The journey to the west, western comics (Suppaman who appears in Dr Slump), and Toriyama's own passion for motor vehicles.

Is not very original, but has that something other games don't have. It crawls under your skin and stay there for a looong time.

That does seem similar. One is an armor corrupting broken one, second is a seed consuming the unfortunate one.

Taweret Aug 27, 2019 @ 1:54am 
Originally posted by Genocide Justice:
You're incredibly blind if you honestly say stuff like "b-b-but its not in the anime! So its not canon!" How do you think animes start? They start because of manga writers who write the story then animators go off that. So yes it is canon no matter how much you try to block it out.

you literally want me to talk about mature content exclusive to manga on a game forums that has 16 pegi, stop baiting dude, berserk is not yaoi wtf, 'you are incredibly blind' if you think that! but you cant be serious! lol :D (i read different volumes multiple times and i never viewed it as yaoi, it must be just you! :D) witcher books has a lot of mature content too so i dont see why guts presence would be too controversial for SC. my point is the tv series were censored (whole wyald chapter missing in any of adaptation etc) and are more suitable to the teenager audience so i think this version fits more within boundaries of tactful forum discussion.
also berserk is more psychological manga, you cant really label it as yaoi because it has short scenes like this (on top of that kind of repulsive). just go and post it on skullknight.net they are better experts than me but dont blame me if they ban you for trolling :D! btw is really nice forum dedicated to berserk fandom, they are dissecting every single berserk chapter to the little bits, so you will understand a lot of more, because your berserk retrospection is very shallow!



anyway i found more about soul calibur lore
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/soulcalibur/images/3/31/Soul_Calibur_New_Legends_Of_Project_Soul_012-013.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20150208181210

fantasy setting looks to me familiar of what i seen in berserk and liked, it uses real world references, the occult stuff like astral realms, main difference is that berserk lacks any strong asian influences and here is japan and korea (although there was one pre-berserk miura manga called literally "japan" that he writted with collaboration of hokuto no ken "kenshiro manga" author, nowadays miura prefer mythological themes in his mangas) berserk is more focused on europe so is like classic fantasy setting, while soul calibur trying to be everything a little bit since its fightning game and different people play it, some maybe dont even like fantasy so you have characters like 2b, they dont like fantasy but they "like women" thats the only reason why they dont want guts but another waifus.
Last edited by Taweret; Aug 27, 2019 @ 2:03am
Taweret Aug 27, 2019 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by NorthWind:
If all the pointless brutality was toned down the manga would be so limited.
overall berserk is semi-popular but is still cult classic... violence is part of the setting so idk why you call it pointless, games like fallout and borderlands are brutal too, because setting demands it, like dark ages, medieval times were brutal, so its called dark fantasy. some japanese cult classics also include gore like devilman that is more popular than berserk in japan only, probably because it happens in japan not in europe. the other fantasy mangas i know, claymore, bastard, magi... are nowhere near as popular as berserk is.
gore is not really something uncommon in japanese mangas, you have very popular vagabond and kingdom then other less popular vinland saga, soten koro, terra formars, gantz, dorohedoro...
but berserk still might be more popular for western culture than vagabond and kingdom. there is also blade of the immortal that has gore and had live action adaptation but is not comparable in popularity to vagabond, kingdoms and berserk.
anyway what is the point considering popularity of x franchise if SC community is not that big either... it's fightning game with weapons, and fantasy setting not everyone cup of tea just like berserk.
https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Best_selling_fighting_games#cite_note-sf-0
some people here might not even like it, since they want boobs not big swords.

i know that you want boobs, because when i was buying SC hori stick i was thinking which one is better, there was two, PS4 one with siegfried and nightmare picture and XBOX one with b00bs. people were complaining how terrible is PS4 stick even though is freaking awesome pic and looks even better in live and the color is better and has more features like turbo, touchpad and anti slip pads, even though the red stick costs more, only because people are more likely buying it, because it has b00bs. good that im not teenager anymore and i dont think with crotch.
Last edited by Taweret; Aug 27, 2019 @ 3:56am
ShadowSplit Aug 27, 2019 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by Ojama King:
overall berserk is semi-popular but is still cult classic... violence is part of the setting so idk why you call it pointless, games like fallout and borderlands are brutal too, because setting demands it, like dark ages, medieval times were brutal, so its called dark fantasy. some japanese cult classics also include gore like devilman that is more popular than berserk in japan only, probably because it happens in japan not in europe. the other fantasy mangas i know, claymore, bastard, magi... are nowhere near as popular as berserk is.
gore is not really something uncommon in japanese mangas, you have very popular vagabond and kingdom then other less popular vinland saga, soten koro, terra formars, gantz, dorohedoro...
I meant Violence for the sake of violence is pointless.
Medieval times were indeed troublesome time, but you don't just take all that is bad and put is concentrated in a simple way. I did try to read Berserk after watching anime and the film only to realize that anime actually did justice to the manga for wider audience. Omitting certain parts of manga was a pretty good decision. I have no ill feelings towards fans of Berserk, but it's just not my cup of tea. I would say there are number of people that would agree with this thoughts of mine.
For Devilman, feeling is about the same.
Bastard... seen it years ago and can't remember much.
If we are going that way you can list Hokuto no Ken, Black Lagoon, Appleseed, etc. Although I like Black Lagoon, certain chapters wish I never read.
Vagabond is known for its amazing artwork so that could also be the case why some portraits of violence are better to glance over than Berserk (I personally don't like the artwork), but in the end, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Originally posted by Ojama King:
but berserk still might be more popular for western culture than vagabond and kingdom.
...it's fightning game with weapons, and fantasy setting not everyone cup of tea just like berserk.
I certainly can agree on this point. Just Soulcalibur once was pretty big fighting franchise until poor decisions created its downfall. Okubo is probably the only person we have to thank for having enough will to rise it from ashes. And maybe Harada.

Originally posted by Ojama King:
i know that you want boobs...
You are reading me as an open book :steamhappy: You know there are two type of people, boobs people and butts people.

Originally posted by Ojama King:
...because when i was buying SC hori stick i was thinking which one is better, there was two, PS4 one with siegfried and nightmare picture and XBOX one with b00bs. people were complaining how terrible is PS4 stick even though is freaking awesome pic and looks even better in live and the color is better and has more features like turbo, touchpad and anti slip pads, even though the red stick costs more, only because people are more likely buying it, because it has b00bs.
It's their money, let them have what they want.

Originally posted by Ojama King:
good that im not teenager anymore and i dont think with crotch.
Neither am I.
Signed Picasso Aug 27, 2019 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Ojama King:
Originally posted by Assuage:
No anime characters please.
Maybe someone like finn from that american cartoon?
whether you like it or not SC is Japanese style 3d animation, i saw animes that were 3d example: Appleseed Alpha.

You were so close. Forget that its a "Japanese style" animation, its published and developed by japanese companies. Hence the irony of me requesting an american character and lambasting a japanese request

But then...


Originally posted by Ojama King:
Originally posted by Assuage:

A man of his nation I see.
The over indulgence of a foreign culture as alien as the East will see the death of our own.
So shy away from the red eye in the white sky and enjoy local delicacies such as that.

Berserk is the most european anime you can get... is not really that oriental it uses european mythology.
berserk happens in alter-europe:
https://imgur.com/2HxiZJB
http://skullknight.net/images/worldresemblance-small1.jpg
http://skullknight.net/images/worldresemblance-large2.jpg
http://skullknight.net/images/worldresemblance-small3.jpg

hundred years war is supposedly also related to european history,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War
https://berserk.fandom.com/wiki/Hundred-Year_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanishka
https://berserk.fandom.com/wiki/Ganishka

http://i.imgur.com/tLr7Gth.jpg
https://www.zonanegativa.com/imagenes/2017/07/Berserk_Koka_Segovia.jpg

only some examples of berserk lore.


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